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Nafisa
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Unread post by Nafisa » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:45 am

This is Vazarat Link
Enjoy Mufaddal BS Waez



http://www.alvazarat.org/1435/index.html

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Unread post by Nafisa » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:21 am


Aftaab
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Unread post by Aftaab » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:12 am

I hate when they speak but dont follow it, for example in waez fifth Muffaddal is talking about how Imam Hussain lift boj of a budhiya, now I want to ask, how many times would these royal family help if some momeen comes to them in this situation and ask for help?

would they ever give hands to lift any boj?

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Unread post by think » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:34 pm

he is really brainwashing the abdes. right in the middle of the waez he asks the whole majlis to take the name of his father. Hear him say "Mohd. burhanuddin nu naam lo" " Mohd Burhanuddin nu naam lo".

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Unread post by think » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:07 pm

again, apologies for my common or uncommon sense. Listening to the waez of Sir Muffudal, he states that wife making roti at home is very barkati and home cooked meal is the best. He states that Dawood nabi used to make his meals himself as there is lot of barakat. The question, then why did he start the thali scheme?
does his wife make roti for him everyday? It seems not, because he is invited to eat out everyday. So, is he loosing all the barkat by eating out?
secondly he comments that his education is the best for this world and after. That the others who are educated are special, is not so. At the same token his father states that because of satelite his voice can be clearly heard in all the bilads (countries) and the voice is so clear that it is like he was there amongst them. How does he think this high sound level came about without any distortion? Certainly not by making roti's. Can one explain, or dare to explain the points mentioned above. where is he going with such kind of waez? should he not be focused on stating the facts about kerbala , the 10 days of moharram and the events that came about.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:17 pm

think wrote:again, apologies for my common or uncommon sense. Listening to the waez of Sir Muffudal, he states that wife making roti at home is very barkati and home cooked meal is the best. He states that Dawood nabi used to make his meals himself as there is lot of barakat. The question, then why did he start the thali scheme?
does his wife make roti for him everyday? It seems not, because he is invited to eat out everyday. So, is he loosing all the barkat by eating out?
secondly he comments that his education is the best for this world and after. That the others who are educated are special, is not so. At the same token his father states that because of satelite his voice can be clearly heard in all the bilads (countries) and the voice is so clear that it is like he was there amongst them. How does he think this high sound level came about without any distortion? Certainly not by making roti's. Can one explain, or dare to explain the points mentioned above. where is he going with such kind of waez? should he not be focused on stating the facts about kerbala , the 10 days of moharram and the events that came about.
Muffy thinks, this muharram 10 days is meant to praise and just talk about his own family.

some sane man in his team need to tell him, Muharram is for the remembrance of ahlul bayt and all these people have came from so far, just to listen on this subject. :roll:

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Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:54 am

In all his waez Muffaddal bhaisaheb is associating others good doing with present sayedna which is far from the truth.
In on waez he compare the act of Imam Zainul Abedin taking maski on his shoulder and distributing among poor he attributes the same to sayedna and says that "aaje pan aa 52 ma dai apan ne pali rahya che"

In reality it is reverse. The shezadas and his complete family is maintained by mumenins. From Vajebat to Galla, Salam, distribution of titles and many other money extraction schemes they collect money and just to eye wash they give some money as way of muvasad or other help to mumenins. The huge share is spend for their ayyasi. Look at the frequent visit of Muffaddalbhaisaheb to Africa just for fun sake he spend 2 to 3 crores for hunting. The poor community people are running here and their for medical aid and for education for their children. Ultimately some philanthropist in our community helps them but from sayedna nothing is coming. Yes some time some influenced get some help but not sufficient to their requirement and the rest are full field by community members.

The Muffaddalbhaisaheb has no hesitation to give an example of dai Sayedna Dawood bi Azabsha in one of the waez.
He says that one mumin has given ziafat and when sayedna comes to know that he has given this ziafat from the fund earned by viyaj money he has refused to eat the food. Now a days there are many among us who earn by haram ni kamai and the sayedna has no hesitation to except his jiyafa or give a title after taking lacks of Rs.

This all happens in our community and most of us understand this but because of our social setup no body raise their voice. But I think now time has come and because of communication facility is at the finger tip, peoples are waking up and this is the reason that Muffaddalbhaisaheb is again and again warns not to join face book or any other social sites. This time he has warned not to read even emails which is according to him from the dushman. He is misleading by saying this because it is actually from good wishers of community.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:20 am

to all the proggies:
why to share link for Syedi Mufaddal Bhaisaheb TUS waaz when you dont follow it. Go and analyse your udaipuri waaz and take lessons from it.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:30 am

You are eligible to analyse and enjoy this kind of waaz
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zinger
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Unread post by zinger » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:36 am

the guy in the center of the pic seems to think this is all a joke.

and he is certainly older than the 7 and 8-year old kids pics that was on this site that someone said were laughing

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:39 am

true_bohra wrote:You are eligible to analyse and enjoy this kind of waaz
shame on you, no matter who talks about Hussain(s) they are worth to respect, all lovers of Imam Hussain has great position near Allah and prophet(s).

this is what u learnt in these 10 days of waez of muffy to make fun of majlise Hussain(s)...

honestly you cant humiliate your self more then this.

you are a shame for your mother who kept you in her womb.

and no I am not prog neither ever visited udaipur, but reading jokes on majlise Hussain(s) is really disgusting.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:42 am

problem with muffy waez is, instead of talking on Hussain(s) he wastes 75% of waez time in bull shiiting about his father and himself, and this requires to be checked by paid member of community like me.

atleast this udaipuris talks about Hussain(s) and nothing else.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:44 am

what about your mother who should be shameful on you who is mere hypocrite.

For your reference see the first post by nafisa and what she wrote.

This is Vazarat Link
Enjoy Mufaddal BS Waez


So better curse nafisa and her mother and not mine because what I put was a pic in which your men are also laughing and enjoying.

PS I never intend to laugh on zikr Husain. My laugh is on hypocrites like you

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:46 am

I cant repeat myself time and again. Who is forcing you to be paid member of this community.
JUST GET OUT AND LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE THE WAY YOU LIKE.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:48 am

true_bohra wrote:what about your mother who should be shameful on you who is mere hypocrite.

For your reference see the first post by nafisa and what she wrote.

This is Vazarat Link
Enjoy Mufaddal BS Waez


So better curse nafisa and her mother and not mine because what I put was a pic in which your men are also laughing and enjoying.

PS I never intend to laugh on zikr Husain. My laugh is on hypocrites like you
what did u mean by saying

You are eligible to analyse and enjoy this kind of waaz?

why cant every waez sunni,shia,proggi or muffy waez analyszed, so that no one can utter bullshiit?

oh sorry I forgot pea brain morons like you have no ability to analyz any thing, this seems to be reason of your frustration.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:50 am

true_bohra wrote:I cant repeat myself time and again. Who is forcing you to be paid member of this community.
JUST GET OUT AND LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE THE WAY YOU LIKE.
I am already living my life, and its my duty to bring more living guys out of this shiit,

but zombies like you will always worship muffy and lick there ass waiting for the way when u guys will burn in hell.

I can see your jealousy and frustration in every post of yours, adbe like you cant do any thing more but come here and lease out your frustrations.

why dont u just get out of this progy website and live your shiity life?
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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:52 am

I am not frustrated. I think you are.
I see you did not say anything about your like minded nafisa.
She was the one who posted things like that.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:53 am

true_bohra wrote:I am not frustrated. I think you are.
I see you did not say anything about your like minded nafisa.
She was the one who posted things like that.
is this website owned by goonda muffy? do u have raza to be here?

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:54 am

JEALOUS....HAHHAHAHAHHA

OH I cant stop myself laughing.

Beta go out and ask anyone, who is really progressing. I am sure you are gonna get a good answer.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:56 am

Dear do not blame me. I asked about Nafisa.

Where is your love for Zikr Husain now.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:00 am

true_bohra wrote:Dear do not blame me. I asked about Nafisa.

Where is your love for Zikr Husain now.
do u have raza to be here?

u give misaaq isnt it? and in that misaaq u swear by god that u will follow every thing told by your leader.

how can you post here in dushman website then?

now who is hypocrite?

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:02 am

Aftaab wrote:
true_bohra wrote:You are eligible to analyse and enjoy this kind of waaz
shame on you, no matter who talks about Hussain(s) they are worth to respect, all lovers of Imam Hussain has great position near Allah and prophet(s).

this is what u learnt in these 10 days of waez of muffy to make fun of majlise Hussain(s)...

honestly you cant humiliate your self more then this.

you are a shame for your mother who kept you in her womb.

and no I am not prog neither ever visited udaipur, but reading jokes on majlise Hussain(s) is really disgusting.
stop being a hypocrite. read what your ilk has written about our Vaaz. there was a whole post dedicated to it which went into 6 to 7 pages, all of them, mocking the vaaz

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:03 am

zinger wrote:
Aftaab wrote: shame on you, no matter who talks about Hussain(s) they are worth to respect, all lovers of Imam Hussain has great position near Allah and prophet(s).

this is what u learnt in these 10 days of waez of muffy to make fun of majlise Hussain(s)...

honestly you cant humiliate your self more then this.

you are a shame for your mother who kept you in her womb.

and no I am not prog neither ever visited udaipur, but reading jokes on majlise Hussain(s) is really disgusting.
stop being a hypocrite. read what your ilk has written about our Vaaz. there was a whole post dedicated to it which went into 6 to 7 pages, all of them, mocking the vaaz
do u have raza to be here?

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:05 am

^

Yes! i do! Now what are you going to do about it?

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:05 am

some1 is saying about misaaq.

ohh really what about yours. and there is a point in misaaq where it mentions about bar'aat.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:08 am

zinger wrote:
Aftaab wrote: shame on you, no matter who talks about Hussain(s) they are worth to respect, all lovers of Imam Hussain has great position near Allah and prophet(s).

this is what u learnt in these 10 days of waez of muffy to make fun of majlise Hussain(s)...

honestly you cant humiliate your self more then this.

you are a shame for your mother who kept you in her womb.

and no I am not prog neither ever visited udaipur, but reading jokes on majlise Hussain(s) is really disgusting.
stop being a hypocrite. read what your ilk has written about our Vaaz. there was a whole post dedicated to it which went into 6 to 7 pages, all of them, mocking the vaaz
show me single post which is mocking on majlise Hussain, but people do have rights to criticize muffys self glorification which he does for 75% waez time.

and if u cant differentiate and see this, u are dumbest person on whole planet.

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Unread post by Aftaab » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:10 am

zinger wrote:^

Yes! i do! Now what are you going to do about it?
I see you have learnt good lessons in these 10 days waez about how to lie openly in public :mrgreen:

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:17 am

A single post you asking. Go through this forum and you will find only shit, abuse and hatred.

See how people are mocking on the zikr of Duldul (Horse of Imam Husain AS)

and in some recent post you were saying naming children as Abu Bakr. How many have their children with that time. Would you keep your children's name as Abu Bakr

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:19 am

search for these 3 threads. there must be more, but i found these 3 for now

1. Mohurrum Tamasha: Its Hurricane Muffy After Storm Sandy
2. Where is Next Moharram Tamasha
3. Mohurrum Tamasha Venue : The Countdown Begins.

Read the posts there first and then come back and we will have a discussion.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:21 am

and you will find countless people in those threads for whom you should prepare a list so that you can curse their mother one by one.

I know you wont do that. BECAUSE YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. :D :lol: