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- Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:12 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
- Replies: 154
- Views: 34924
Re: 21 imam has appointed other imam? confused
The question is simple: "21 imam has appointed other imam? confused". The answer is also simple: "Yes". Thats all. To elaborate. Unlike the ithna-ashari beliefs, the Imam is in seclusion (not "hiding") and lives a normal life span, appointing his successor before passi...
- Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:53 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: ruby ring as per bohra customs
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4103
ruby ring as per bohra customs
Can anyone please share info as to what a person should look for in a ruby stone.. I am aware that it should be atleast 3cts for optimum benefit and using silver lesser than 4.27 grams... color of ruby is most important, then it's clarity However? I have an option to buy anew unheated burma pigeon b...
- Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: List of succession disputes in Dawoodi Bohra HIstory
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5442
Re: List of succession disputes in Dawoodi Bohra HIstory
Sceptical wrote:you didn't read I guess...khokawala wrote:thanks but there are many more I guess , I heard that even 47th was disputed1255H/1840 : Abta-i-Malak schism (after death of 46th Dai, Syedna Mohammad Badruddin RA)
Can you please be kind enough to share detail on this schism... who is abta i Malak?
- Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:22 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: List of succession disputes in Dawoodi Bohra HIstory
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5442
Re: List of succession disputes in Dawoodi Bohra HIstory
For argument's sake; history tells us that nabi Dawood and Nabi Suleman were very rich., so to state that if one is rich he cannot be a dai or a religious person does not hold true because Soloman and Dawood nabi were both very rich nabi's. so a rich dai could very well be a genuine representative ...
- Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:47 pm
- Forum: The lighter side
- Topic: A Poem by Salman Haider -- A satire
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2694
Re: A Poem by Salman Haider -- A satire
This surely does not belong in the lighter side section....
it depicts both literally and figuratively the mentality of our society.. and pretty much everyone in the world.....
it depicts both literally and figuratively the mentality of our society.. and pretty much everyone in the world.....
- Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:47 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Naming of child without raza
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5197
Re: Naming of child without raza
We named our child Ibrahim.. We did not ask for raza because we did not want to name our kid burhan/saif - uddin or mufaddal... not that there is anything wrong with those names...one aamil did ask us who gave that name... we told that we chose it ourselves.. he frowned a bit however Ibrahim is a n...
- Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Naming of child without raza
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5197
Re: Naming of child without raza
We named our child Ibrahim.. We did not ask for raza because we did not want to name our kid burhan/saif - uddin or mufaddal... not that there is anything wrong with those names...one aamil did ask us who gave that name... we told that we chose it ourselves.. he frowned a bit however Ibrahim is a na...
- Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:59 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
I have a very old book, a majlis compilation inherited from my great grandfather, in that book many events of Karbala is narrated. In the recent past I didn't hear many of the events in the book in our majalis and thought that these might not be true but for the last ten years I am observing that e...
- Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
The ONLY fact in karbala event is our IMAMS and their true followers HAD laid their life for humanity. Now its does not matter 1. how they were killed? 2. what was the position of the people who were killed in the battlefield? 3. what was the time when they were killed? 4. what was the relation of ...
- Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:18 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
About banu a.s who is ummul aimmat after sometime in Medina she asked imam ali zainul abideen to accompany her to Iran where she wanted to go and meet her ma sahiba and brother who had accepted Islam much earlier. Maulatena banu was deeply grieved and weak, they had earlier plan to go to Iran that ...
- Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:31 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
You cannot convince people who are bound to do argument for the sake of argument. As for the name of the father of the 4 year old boy his name is never mentioned, imam Hasan had an extended family and many sons whose generations upheld the name of Imam Hasan but imam at was only in the family of Im...
- Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Banu a.s. was a princess, a daughter of some King of a neighboring country... her father arranged for here escape from Karbala on night or 2 before ashura. Don't know how much this is authenticated. Ali (AS) killed Banu's (AS) father, Yazdegerd so I do not think that is true. Many sources say that ...
- Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
"Smb ra always narrated this bayaan and ali qadar mola tus said the same... yes imam hasans grandson is like (grandson is like your own son)and every duwaat has termed this as Hasan na farzand!" So now there are two people who claim SMB said this as well... which means he was lying as well...
- Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:02 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Don't promote unnecessary doubts if you are so smart to understand that it is impossible then do you think waizeen are such fools to arouse the controversy. In the waiz it is alwaysa said Imam Hasan name aik 4 waras na Farzand hata., as I earlier said this farzand(son) was the son of imam hasans so...
- Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:26 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
The incident related to the 4 year old grandson of imam Hasan is not new it has been quoted a number of times even during the waiz of syedna Mohammad burhanuddin I am a witness to it, about mukhtar coming after 3 days, who quotes all these baseless stories it was never said in any waiz haven't you ...
- Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:57 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Re: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
Here is another twist in the ashura event which begs an explanation. It is said and is true that 3 days after Imam Hussain was martered, the army of Mukhtar reached kufa. The perimeter of kufa was surrounded and all of yezid"s army were tortured and killed by mukhtars army. My question is ; di...
- Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Altering the facts of events in Ashura
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10131
Altering the facts of events in Ashura
However critical I am of the dai-ship from the 51st chairperson. I have always admired the fact that TS and SMB did not alter the events of Karbala .. Shia's add a lot of spice to their Bayaans to make people cry however we refrained from it and stuck to the facts ( or atleast what our books have ta...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:30 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
- Replies: 117
- Views: 19266
Re: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
this one:ghulam muhammed wrote:Which 50 page document are you referring to ?kseeker wrote:did anyone ever succeed in compiling a legible copy of the 50 page document?
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http://publishing.yudu.com/Freedom/Adcte/ManuscriptAlZulfiqar/
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:19 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
If a day comes that an Abdul Rehman leave a stronger postive impact than the negative one Ibn Muljim left, yes... there will be Abdul Rehmans all around..... You fail to understand the simple fact that Abdur Rahman is a good name irrespective of which human has it. Same is the case with Mohammad. C...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:14 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
brother muslim first, I assume you have yet to attend a saudi imaam led sermon praising the deeds of "Ameer ul Momineen Muawiya ibn Abu Sufiyan" and his son who had "some bad habits"... never got offered any niyaaz of muaiwiya??.... never heard people in madinat shouting salawat ...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:49 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
The prophet married Ayesha and Sumaiyya(daughter of umar) .. Imam hussain married Yazid's sister ( mother of Ali Akbar (AS) )... Abbas (AS) mother was Shimr's brother.... all of them have families linked... thats how the arabs roll... they keep marrying in each other's family to avoid conflict... m...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:48 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
Nope.. cause the impact of Mohammed is stronger on the good side than the bad one.... The prophet was born and died on 12th Rabi ul Awwal yet we celebrate it instead of mourning it.... because his birth was more important than his death.... no matter how many evil Mohammeds or Alis you bring, people...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
- Replies: 117
- Views: 19266
Re: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
sorry for reviving such an old thread; but did anyone ever succeed in compiling a legible copy of the 50 page document? the font is too small and obscure for me to read :/ i would really love to read that document. Truth be told .. just yesterday, I was thinking about the same thing. I remember a f...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:05 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
I have never implied, neither has dawoodi bohra or ismaili theology ever implied that it is haram to use those names... In islam, Niyat (Niyyah) is very important and can trump amal ( not in all cases).. My niyat is to not displease Allah by softening myself to those who have displeased him... Keepi...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:34 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
And yet He did not prevent ibn Muljim from assassinating a person who was dedicated to Him unlike any other? That is not how the world works.... I said "maybe". Sometimes, people are destined to go astray. ibn Muljim went astray by killing Ali and the bohras went astray by worshipping the...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:39 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
I have asked a revered scholar about the reason for this. He has mentioned that in this Daur e Fatarat, it is very easy to go astray.. especially with no one to guide us.. Imaam being in parda and Dai-ship in crisis for a couple hundred years... One method we use to 'stay on the path' is to associa...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:31 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
Those names were stopped being used for many hundreds of years... bohras have become abde syedna since the 51st dai... Well, it is a pity. If they hadn't stopped calling themselves slaves of Allah, maybe HE would've prevented them from becoming the slaves of a human!! And yet He did not prevent ibn...
- Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
- Replies: 117
- Views: 19266
Re: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
sorry for reviving such an old thread; but did anyone ever succeed in compiling a legible copy of the 50 page document? the font is too small and obscure for me to read :/
i would really love to read that document.
i would really love to read that document.
- Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:38 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
it is one of the main reason why we don't keep names such as Abdul Rehman Allah's hikma is unique. As soon as the bohras stopped using the beautiful names of Allah, he made them abde syedna instead of Abdur Rahman. Those names were stopped being used for many hundreds of years... bohras have become...
- Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:09 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8772
Re: Names of 72 Shaheed in Karbala
Hazrat Usman Bin Ali (A.S) Hazrat Abu Baker Bin Ali (A.S) Hazrat Abu Baker Bin Hasan Bin Ali (A.S) Although the above personalities were the sons of the most revered figures of Shia/Bohra faith but one will never hear a mention of it in any of their vayez. I have asked a revered scholar about the r...