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‘They ask you (Muhammad) about wine and gambling, say, in them is a great sin and some benefit, but the sin is greater than their benefit.’ (Baqarah 219).

just to point the exact reference, so the benefit has already been told, before modern science verified it (not found it).

WBR
Syed

@anajmi
before the modern research quraan itself told that there are some benefits also and some harms also, but harms are more then the benefits.

also what do you mean by "small quantities" ? for a heavy drinker 10 ML maybe a small qty, for someone who doesn't drink it could be a large qty,

i ...

Demonstrating as a means of bringing about political and social change is well documented, read up on Martin Luther King, Ghandi, or the women's suffrage movement. Afghan women protesting the laws there have been pelted with stones.

primary tool to change any society is Education not ...

Practice what you preach

and stop quoting out of context... as usual...

WBR
Syed

..and yet you chose to relocate to the US with your family to live amongst the "bastard" "monkeys" ? Why ?


show mercy on everyone, even those blinded by their lusts.. so probably he chose to live there and try to show you whats wrong with you. :twisted:

come back with something decent dude..

i wish you could read the first two lines of my post again,

i did not equate anything with anything, i just mentioned one point, how did reach the conclusion that i equated them ?

neither did i say that i am more worried about my facial hair then any women being flogged, both are different issues ...

Biradar and JM pointed out a very important distinction. The only thing I have to add is perhaps a Freudian Slip by Syed when he says man want to marry more then 1 women and give them a status in society . ! He admits that Muslim women have no status in society unless they are married ("chattel ...

beating of women happen every other day, it cant be changed with demonstrations, it has to be changed with education, people don't know what they are doing, this does not mean they are hypocrites.

also beating of women happen EVERYWHERE.. not only in India/Pakistan as you mentioned, open you eyes ...

you see,
the point is that

1) you cry hoarse only for Muslim countries for a practice while it is equally accepted everywhere
2) no where i see that you actually objected to the age difference, you simply pointed to a MUSLIM COUNTRY accepting a certain practice..

just to make it clear i also ...

aha
You mean these countries allow you to have sex with 12 year old kids out of marriage and dump them .. probably pregnant, but if someone actually want to marry them with all the obligations that come with a marriage contract, then its not OK.

well, i understand that.. since exactly that is the ...

read a little about the world around you with open eyes,
but you are biased so obviously you wont.

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

Philippines = 12
Japan = 13
Traveling Americans = 12 !!! whoaa !!
Zimbabwe = 12
Sweden = 15
Spain = 13
South Korea = 13
Mexico = 12


you farts never cried over ...

Al Jazeera, another beacon of free press in the Gulf, is reporting that the girl in this video is Zubeda Gul, the girl that was granted inheritance rights under Sharia law . Apparently this video was shot just as they left the courtroom with Rs. 500,000 in hand. The judge involved in the case, Syed ...

lol... that was a funny reply Najmi.....

WBR
Syed

our friends on this forum will manage to find something to cry about this also .. lets wait for their posts...

WBR
Syed

One must doubt the intelligence of the creator though. Judging by the stupidity of his "greatest" creation, his creative powers do not seem that great. After all, animals don't blow each other up or divide them selves into 72 sects based on minutiae of the said scriptures. Or argue endlessly about ...

Based on the discussion Anajmi and Humsafar are having on a different thread, Varun needs to be disowned by the Hindus for following the Islamic Arab culture and rituals.

no dude, we dont need him ...
he is a perfect representative of you guys ( i dont say of hindu's)

keep him and enjoy the ...

@humsafar
@jawanmardan

come on guys.. find more stories like the moss turn black and white to support evolution... dont change the topic...

you can start another thread where i will try to tell u where exactly hajar al aswad stands and why it is kissed...

but anajmi summed it up more or less ...

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"LAWS OF EARTH is that are without any solid base, so the only acceptable laws of punishment are the divine laws"

So Mullah And Aalim syed
Can you please tell me what are divine laws for speeding on roads and running the red light on intersection? Which Hadiath
should the local law ...

it didnt evolved into a fire throwing dragon to protect itself

I'll leave the fire throwing dragons to creationism. By ignoring and dismissing every scientific breakthrough in support of evolution your are merely presenting a mythology, not science.

Brother confused, may I suggest you read up on ...

Mork,

You say men does not have enough knowledge to fix punishment for any crime, his justifications are limited If you admittedly don't have "enough knowledge" to fix punishment on Earth, should I believe you in "what has been revealed" for us in the hereafter ? Your justification for the Quran ...

because an atheist or an idol worshiper will have a different basis then quraan, so i will have to reply accordingly.

Syed why go that far even MUSLIM UMMAH has done the same injustice to teaching of Quran. Every Muallah or self created experts on Islam like you have different basic understanding ...

Ok, please tell me your beliefs ...
We are talking about empirical truths here, personal beliefs do not matter.

give an example of what you have observed in evolution empirically, bring forth those points, not theories.

also faith does matter, that is where is the basis of your observations. if ...

Apparently crime is a word used rather “loosely” in Wahabism, you guys chop off limbs, stone people, and execute women in stadiums. Then again, these just violate l “laws on earth”. :?:

You two need a sitcom like Mork and Mindy, except that we can’t have 2 Morks on the same freak show, so you ...

Allah SWT made Adam as a human and sent him as a prophet on earth...
i still dont understand is this so difficult to understand ??
Your innocence is touching. Why it is difficult to understand? Let me guess, because there is no way of knowing that that actually happened.

As for Harun Yahya, pls ...

big bang which happened millions of years back have been observed scientifically and its theory is being added to... does the same apply to evolution?

Natural selection is supported by such cases as the White Peppered Moth, which used white moss as a home to camouflage itself from predators ...

Allah SWT made Adam as a human and sent him as a prophet on earth...

i still dont understand is this so difficult to understand ??

Cant Allah SWT have said i created an Ape or a Reptile or any xyz if he made that ???

do you guys even refute existence of Adam and his prophet hood on earth ...

jawanmardan,

Prejudice is a term that is loosely used. I am sure you are aware what the quran has to say about homosexuals and what it has to say about different races. A homosexual in Islam is a criminal. Now, laws on earth may not see it that way but that is how it is. Will you let a known ...

@jawanmardan
bring forth those scientific facts that are there in favor of evolution.

electromagnetism is something that you can observe currently and then make facts and figures, is there anything that you can observe happening regarding evolution ?? or is it again only theory ??

big bang which ...

so your worries are just about taunting at school ?? its the entire life of those kids !!!!

childrens have a right to have good parents... and you begin by not fulfilling that rights...a child need a man and a woman to shape his life.. and not a pair of men or a pair of women !

well.. good ...

@omabharti
then you do not understand what Darwins theory is about
their basis is Humanism which rejects any god, and they say universe is all nature and humans are also part of it and they evolved as a natural selection

Quraan tells us that Adan and Eve are HUMANS.. do you think Allah does not ...