Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Qur’an 3.28 Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to...

This is because the Dai has been elevated to the status of a divine omnipotent God. Bohra are meant to do sajdo to him. Whatever a bohra has in his life is all his bounties. They do dua to him. They seek his forgiveness. The typical greeting is 'Kaim cho?' and the the typical answer is 'Moula ni dua...

if you are talking about Al qaida and other terrorist group, then i dont need to tell u that they are against the basic teachings of QURAAN which is peace loving message from creator. so how can they achieve peace and success if they are operating against ALLAH? Qur’an 3.28 Let not the believers ta...

If Quraan is the only solution, why is the Muslim world in ruins all over the world except the Oil rich gulf states who have oil and hence US support ? Just having Quran is no use. Quran is no doubt, the ultimate and final word from Allah Subanahu. There should be someone who guides you and who sho...

Well they should care. The whole problem with the general Muslims is that they don't accept the Nass on Mowlana Ali AS, and you know where that lead them towards. Adam, Are you a retard or what? I was referring specifically to this 46th/47th controversy you dolt. Why bring Maula Ali into all this? ...

" Provided that the said third defendant Sirdar Saiyedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb and his successors in office may at any time place a box or other receptacle at any place outside the actual area covered by the enclosure in which the said tomb (of Chandabhoy) is situate, and indicate on or in the...

How about 'empirical evidence' for Dai's infallibility?
Prove his infallibility strictly by his actions.

only solution to problem of bohra commuinty is QURAAN. I suggest and request all the readers on this board to buy a copy of Quraan with translation in your mother tongue, and start reading it. and this is my promise to all, this reading of QURAAN will change your life for ever, it will give u guts ...

Seems like we've reached the end of this Thread. Syedna Hatim says: Prophets, Imams and Duats are Ma'soom. That is the Dawoodi Bohra belief. And if Proggies claim to be Dawoodi Bohras, or respect Syedna Hatim, they should accept the above. Please provide evidence in the form of an image of the rele...

According to the DB beliefs and texts, the Dai Muthlaq representative of the Imam during Satr is infallible. The Mumineen have one present leader, and that is the Dai Muthlaq. That present leader is being guided by the Imam. The imam is infallible, the dai is not and doesn't need to be. Not, to com...

This might clarify some issues. http://bombayhighcourt.nic.in/libweb/historicalcases/cases/MULLAJI_CASE.html MULLAJI CASE (CHANDABHOY GULLA CASE)-19l8-19l9 The case known as the "Mullaji's Case" or " Chandabhoy Gulla Case", is among the longest and most remarkable cases ever trie...

What's the difference between following the 'koran' and the dai. Both spread hate towards the so called disbelievers. Both forcefully impose laws, and if one fails to do according to their command, face the hell. Qur’an 9:123 “murder them and treat them harshly” Qur’an 3.28 Let not the believers tak...

Abde idiots shouldn't be asking for authentic references. Your entire existence is based upon lies created by your Dai and then you ask for authentic references? Can you give me an authentic reference that says that your Dai is infallible? Can you quote an ayah from the Quran? I can show an ayah fr...

Actually, i have already expressed my opinion that i do not approve of the wanton act of killing animals for sport, but i guess you are too blind or too close-minded to have read it and understood it, inspite of me openly saying it. According to orthodox bohra logic.. Hunting animals for sport is w...

Rationalist can you prove where it is written whatever pleases him pleases imam , etc Anyone one can say that but that does not make it right or true. That's the whole point. I was being sarcastic. There's no such thing as whatever pleases Dai pleases Imam. It's all instilled in the brainwashed bra...

Silence from Orthodox Bohras. On a lighter note, let me try to give an explanation. which would certainly justify Dai's actions and denounce progressives. Dai loves killing animals for sport, it pleases him. Whatever pleases him, pleases Imam, whatever pleases Imam will please Prophet and will event...

The Dai will verify the true Imam. Therefore we are trying to verify the true Dai. If we get through verifying the true Dai than there will be no problem in verifying the Imam as well. Mazoon and Mukasir will be witness in the process of verifying the Imam. Hussain, I have given you a detailed resp...

When a zabeehat is performed, one is supposed to eat that animal. The meat of the animal is being used. al Muayyad explains in al Majalis al Muayyadiyah, that when a human eats an animal, it becomes a part of him; his flesh. Thus, zabeehat enables heightening of the nature of that animal, it becomes...

Qadi al Noman narrates in Majalis al Musayraat some accounts of duat of Imam Moiz who had gone astray. How can an infallible go astray? If you had read the Majalis well, you should have known that there is a difference between the Duats during the Imam's presence and the Duat Mutlaq during Satr. No...

Waiting for your reply brother profastian..

The bohra doctrine about the infallibility of the DAI, as I understand it * Imam is infallibility and DAI is like infallible(masoom jewa, masoom ni tarah). * Imam is intrinsically infallible. He is born infallible. He is made of 'infallible stuff'. * The infallibility of the DAI is extrinsic or ext...

Progressives will recognize the Imam based upon his deeds and do not need validations from a corrupt Dai whose Imam will be useless to anyone else. Would they vote or something, or would they elect a leader to decide on someone, or would everyone go his own way?Not all of them would agree on a sing...

by progticide Now let others answer your questions about your Imam ZAman. There is no such thing as Imam Zaman and Dai ship etc etc is all innovation by shelfish human beings. I assume you have joined mainstream islam, and i respect your views. However to bring reform to this community, don't you t...

But, we are surely dependent on the Dai-e-Mutlaq to leads us to that maqaam where we would be introduced to the Imam as the followers of his Daawat. Those who dont agree with this point of view it is their choice. Those who are willing to atleast think about what I have expressed may further read H...

Dear progticide, We are kind of stuck here. On one hand, we have narrations in DB texts that the only person who can identify the Imam is the Dai, as debated in the book Muntaza al-Akhbar. However, on the other hand, we see our present Dai and his system deviant from DB texts, hence disqualifying fo...

I being a reformist, do believe in Imam. He is there. And he is infallible. However the infallibility of dai is questionable. He can make mistakes, and as evidently seen he is making mistakes. We want him to repent for his mistakes and get back on sirate mustaqeem.