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In examining the decisions of the court , several points are apparent:

Importance of Material Evidence:
The court placed great importance on material evidence, particularly videos and audio recordings, which are tangible evidence and difficult to refute. Theological evidence, while significant in ...

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Nass is conferred with "ilham e Allah", so it cannot be revoked. This is my understanding.

This is why we follow Imam Ismail AS instead of Musa Kadhim because we believe that Nass was conferred Upon him, even if he would have died before Imam Jafar AS .

Same exemple of Nass conferred upon Imam ...

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zinger wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:51 am
1. the side of MS has proven that nass "can" change and it has in the past

What are their evidences or examples?

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As salam alaykum,

I am coming back to the original topic on succession.

I do not live in India and have limited knowledge of the Indian legal system.

My questions :

- How independent is the Indian justice system? SMS is very close to Modi, so how impartial can we expect?

- The risk for STF is ...

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SMS has just left Madagascar. As usual, everything seems to have been about money... from what I could get as information... ziafat, pagla, najwa, ...

However, he was supposed to go to Mayotte and the trip was abruptly cancelled without any explanation even though the preparations seem to have been ...

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London...

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New mojizas... worth listening...

: WhatsApp Audio 2021-08-25 at 12.38.04.mp3; (2.43 MiB) Downloaded 250 times

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1) No. Each cycle has its own “Adam”. The Adam of our era is not the same as Adam on another era, obviously, and the First Adam is unique and clearly also not the same as the prophet Adam of this era.

Thanks for your reply.
Could you please develop ?
Adam nabi (AS) is not the first man created ...

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Could someone please enlighten me on these two points (according to our ismail tayebi beliefs) :

1) Are Adam (AS) - I mean the first prophet - and Adam-e-kuli the same person?

2) I have often heard that Adam AS was mustadaeen imam. So had a Mustakar Imam existed at the same time?

Thank you.

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Thank you for sharing.

I have listened to the vaez on both sides.

I learned in 1 day from STF what would have taken me an eternity on the SMS side. What shocks me more and more is the zikr of Shahadat. It's getting worse and worse.

Shahadat by SMS is worthy of the worst Hollywood movie scripts ...

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The existence of God can not be proven by the scientific method, nor his non-existence.

Fact : Scientific theory shows that our universe could appear without the need of a creator.

Reasoning by analogy (chair therefore creator, universe therefore creator) leads to errors of logic.

The only ...

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Clearly, in the early years of SMB's reign there was a lot of love between Muffy, Qaid Johar (aka Qaid Chor) and SQK, as many letters they exchanged prove. Hence, the argument "talwaaro chali jaase" is weak. Clearly, Muffy and Qaid Johar were not the one to chalaoo talwaar on SKQ.

I'm pretty ...

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And the Fermi Lab anecdote: this proves once again that some people have absolutely no understanding of how science works.

I agree with brother Biradar. The arguments are not convincing in light of recent scientific advances : in fact, I find them particularly weak.

God is just a matter of faith ...

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Qadir wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:43 pm Zaydis killed Imam Aamir. Yes they did not go to court, they killed the true imam.
I am so disgusted by your post.

Imam Aamir AS was killed by Nizaris, not Zaydis.

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Yes, it's confirmed. The appointement was done during Milad waez.

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And fake propaganda...

This kind of messages are circulating around the wolrd on Whatsapp...
http://www.thedawoodibohras.com/na_ui.aspx?type=News&article_id=64
17 September 2017
Prominent Sunni scholar, Moulana Tariq Jamil saheb, Archbishop Joseph Coutts and Rector of St Patrick's Cathedral ...

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How did the hospital know that SMB was without water or food for 48 hours? Is there a test that can be done? May be some doctors can shed some light? Or, is it based on the oral history of the caregivers? If so, who told the hospital doctors? Dr. Moiz, some son of SMB?

1/ In cromwell hospital ...

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This letter should have been translated in other languages (Gujrati, Urdu, French, ...). Not all Bohra understand english.

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Has anyone noticed that MS dawat has started to give importance to fitnati YN. In the Maulatena Hurratul Maleka Urus the local Amil here mentioned how great YN was and how he was head of Jamia etc. This is second time I have noticed they gave special mention to YN. I don't ever recall anyone ...

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It's the auspicious night when Allah instructed Prophet (swt) to pray face the Kaaba, instead of Masjid-al-Aqsa (Jerusalem).

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“Science is always wrong. It never solves a problem without creating 10 more.” - George Bernard Shaw.

Hundreds of proven theories in science, were debunked later, sometimes just after a few years by the new scientists.
The ‘Static Universe theory’ of Einstein was ridiculed & so was the ‘Flat earth ...

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Yes, i believe unfortunately, it's just a dream. Even during Imam time new firqa were created. Nowadays, the theological differences are too important between (eg Nizari with Aga Khan vs Tayebi Mustaeli).

By the way, to unite Bohras it's quite simple : Alavi, Sulaymani, Dawoodi (Qutbi & Mufaddali ...

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Reminder : use "add a foe" option in user control panel if you do not want to read DFM (aka Al-Noor) stupid post

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Today the Hon’ble High Court cleared the planned dates of cross examination due to the sad passing of His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin RA, on March 30, 2016. Syedna Taher Fakhruddin TUS will consult with his legal advisors and then guide us on the path forward.

http://fatemidawatlegal.com ...

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Breaking news- On the Happy occasion of Milad mubarak, Maharashtra government announced an honour and dedicated the new international airport in New Mumbai to Huzurala. The airport, when ready in 2018, will be called Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin International Airport (SMSIA). Great recognition of His ...

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humble_servant_us wrote: It was an experimental speech unleashed on Bohra people..

To declare Mufaddal Saheb Imam ?
as he says in his speech : "SMB(ra) farmaw ta ke Imam mara samne tche - Mufaddal Baisaheb par ishara tha"

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Ozdundee wrote:
Sceptical wrote:
How can a Dai do such behurmati of Imam Husain AS shahadat
A true Diai would not ...is he really a Diai ?

Indeed. I don't know if Qutbuddin saheb is the mansoos, but actually he is more in line with SMB(RA) principles than Mufaddal saheb.

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ghulam muhammed wrote:MOCKERY OF MOHURRUM AND IMAM HUSSAIN'S SHAHADAT AT ITS PEAK !!
Please click and watch this 1.42-minute video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h555-g1 ... e=youtu.be

How can a Dai do such behurmati of Imam Husain AS shahadat

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kimanumanu wrote:But but but Ali bin Ibrahim was also Mazoon ... according to Adam that is.

It's Alavi claim and their justification I found quite ambiguous (it was on their web site).
Ali Ibn Ibrahim was nerver Mazoon according to Dawoodi Bohra.

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