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- Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:57 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Also just to add, if we look at the list of the martyrs of Karbala you find up to three persons called Yazeed who fought for Imam al-Husayn (as) and gave their life for his cause! But as stated above, over time many of the names we are discussing fell out of use amongst the Shias for obvious reasons.
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:53 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
It's very unlikely that Sharif radhi ever said that about Al-Hakim, but even if he did, so what? Sharif Radhi is not a hujjah (proof) for us. We don't follow Sharif Radhi..
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:52 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
May Allah (swt) either guide the person who wrote that article or send his infinite la'nah on him. Imam al-kadhim (as) and Imam ridha (as) were both mercilessly killed by the Abbasid caliphs of their times! It's like the same when 'Sunni' people accuse Imam ali (as) to love Abu bakr, umar and uthman...
- Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:20 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Khadim Regarding book of Sulaym Proof that Shk Saduq didn't think the book of Sulaym was valid? That hadith has been mentioned by many scholars by the way that claim that they have found this hadith present in old manuscripts of the book. -Actually, you have not responded to the actual issues. ...
- Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:18 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Khadim Regarding book of Sulaym Proof that Shk Saduq didn't think the book of Sulaym was valid? That hadith has been mentioned by many scholars by the way that claim that they have found this hadith present in old manuscripts of the book. -Actually, you have not responded to the actual issues. ...
- Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:52 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Re kitab sulaym I keep referencing Shk mufid and shk saduq's opinion is they are the preeminent shiah scholars of the 10th and 11th CE...they laid the foundation of shiah usual and fiqh. When they question the validity of a book, it means something. You using a hadith to validate is not proof becau...
- Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:16 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Khadim, Eid Mubarak. Thank you for your responses. I would like to respond to in order, but your reply was long so I apologize if I miss something. Khayr Mubarak Br Husayni. One thing I will say is that I've quite liked this discussion in comparison to the discussions I've had with the OP of th...
- Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:10 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Kadhim, Regarding the authenticity of the compilations, actually they are at best 60-70% authentic...and the hadiths are not noted regarding their status (ie sahih, hasan, gharib, dhaif). The general discussion of hadiths to reaffirm the sunna of Rasullah (as) didn't even start until the time o...
- Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:23 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Kadhim, Thank your further explaination on twelver hadith books...and your validation of my statement that they need to be validated. Kitab as Sulam is considered the oldest hadith book, and accourding to sheikh mufid it is considered unreliable. Al Mahasin is from the 8th century is also consi...
- Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:50 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Proof? Are you also aware of the thousands of Ismailis Bohras who have become Shia Imami?
- Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:36 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Khadim, Regarding 1, for twelver shiah, there 4 main books of hadith. Kitab al Kafi, Wasail ash Shiah, Man yad . If you want to consider primary and scecondaryl, there are hundreds to reference; that was not my point. As I stated the hadiths in these books have not been verified via chain of na...
- Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:36 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Br. Khadim, Several points to clarify: 1. Usul al kafi is a book of hadith, 40-50% are not sahih based on the chain of narrations. Some of those are hasan or weak. This is per shiah islamic scholars. This also applies to all of the 4 major shiah hadith books and also najhul balagha. Shiah hadith bo...
- Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:33 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
- Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:10 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
So till today, the Ismailis have not been able to prove their contention of the supposed Imamate of Ismail ibn Ja'far, who clearly died during the lifetime of his father, Imam Ja'far Sadiq (as) as per many sources. They have had to resort to Westerner historians, Sunnis etc. to prove it, yet the act...
- Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:31 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Hello Khadim, 1. You are preaching lies - Dai Idrees has never wrote what you contends him to have written, on contrary he wrote, "Imam Ismail (a) died after Imam Jaffer Sadiq (a). Isna'ashri scholar Shaharistani and Bakir Majlisi both wrote: The original Imamat nuss was done on Imam Ismail (a...
- Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:55 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Which non-Ithna Asheri prominent historian has said that Imam Jaffer Sadique a.s. first nuss was done over Hz. Musa Kazim and not over Imam Ismail a.s.? 1. ^ If you pose the above question, then I will turn round and say, all major historians confirm that Hz. Ismail died during the lifetime of Imam...
- Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:50 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Imamat - Shia-Sunni Debate
- Replies: 120
- Views: 21725
Re: Ashara Oppression 2015
Too many nawasib trolls about here. Where are the admins to ban such people? May Allah (swt) remove his mercy from the enemies of ahlulbayt (as) in whatever shape or form they may come in.
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: www.thebohras.com
- Replies: 24
- Views: 10308
Re: www.thebohras.com
The question of what happened after the 46th da'i, S. Muhammad Badruddin is a confused one. To properly understand it one needs to go back 30 or more years to the era of the 43rd da'i S. Abdeali Saifuddin (RA). At some point it may be worth recalling this history. However, for now, I just want to p...
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:48 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: www.thebohras.com
- Replies: 24
- Views: 10308
Re: www.thebohras.com
Unfortunately we will not receive any proper replies on this...the system of Da'i al-mutlaq seems to have collapsed for them since 46th Da'i, which in reality means that the whole Da'i hierarchy is false.
- Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:53 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Choosing faith for my self !!!
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3605
Re: Choosing faith for my self !!!
In reference to matarial matters: In Kothari Bohras, Kothar con their subject and extract money. They don't give accounts for money extracted. In Ithna Asheri, the unauthorised Marja and Ayatullah extract money (20% on net income every year) from their subject. They don't give account for the money...
- Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:38 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: www.thebohras.com
- Replies: 24
- Views: 10308
Re: www.thebohras.com
Yes it seems the developer is Mr Badrijanab/Munira RV. From what I can see, many of the stuff uploaded is the stuff he's shared with me in our PM discussions; whenever I've asked him questions he is unable to provide any concrete answers. I'm sure other old members will also testify to this. So this...
- Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:24 am
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Non Bohras = money making family business cult
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4040
Re: Non Bohras = money making family business cult
Munira_RV ka badrijanab doesn't even know who the dai az-zaman is right now. According to bohra dogma, it is obligatory to believe in the Dai of the time but yet he doesn't know who he is! So according to bohra ismaili belief, Munira_RV is not a mu'min. The question remains to be answered; why are t...
- Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:55 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
- Replies: 43
- Views: 16970
Re: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
All such work is forged post the death of Hasan Askari sahib. And no literature before his death contains any grains on happening of only 12 Imams and 12th being Mahdi! Again, have you referred to the sources on this topic? There are many resources that highlight & explain that the concept of 1...
- Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:20 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
- Replies: 43
- Views: 16970
Re: History and credibility of the journey of Bohra ideology
@ Ozdundee, Books and notes of Prophet Mohammad PBUH, Mola Ali a.s., Imam Hasan a.s., Imam Hussain a.s., Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s., Imam Bakir a.s. and Imam Jaffer Sadik a.s., their important belongings; including the sword of Mola Ali a.s. (the Zulfiquar) - these all are inherited by none but o...
- Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:58 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Salaams brother Javed, There is no compulsion in religion, so our bohra brethren have their own free choice to make. We are only trying to make them aware of the realities & the truth. I myself was a bohra & am now a follower of the Shia Imamiyya school; this was after alot of reading & ...
- Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:49 am
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Imam Ali Zain al-Abedeen's dua for Ramadan
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3304
- Thu May 07, 2015 9:12 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
I do not participate in Shia.chat How about this brother Khadim: http://ismailignosis.com/2014/10/02/who-succeeded-imam-jafar-al-sadiq-seven-proofs-for-the-imamat-of-imam-ismail-ibn-jafar/#more-1570 I have four other Proofs of Imamah from Seth Carney but I don't think Admin will allow them as they ...
- Thu May 07, 2015 9:08 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
I have read Javeds post & unfortunately it does not provide any answers to my question. Most of what he has copy-pasted has been answered on shiachat.com I do not participate in Shia.chat How about this brother Khadim: http://ismailignosis.com/2014/10/02/who-succeeded-imam-jafar-al-sadiq-seven-...
- Thu May 07, 2015 12:42 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Please re-read Javed's long post on the subject in this thread. Javed's post has provided sufficient arguments in favour of this thread's topic "Usool-a-Kafi declares Mowlana Ismail (as) is rightful Imam" The made up narrations and chains are your forte. The main subject of this topic has...
- Thu May 07, 2015 12:21 pm
- Forum: Dawoodi Bohra religion, rituals and customs
- Topic: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
- Replies: 58
- Views: 43756
Re: Usool-a-Kafi declares Molana Ismail (a) is rightful Imam
Ithna Ashari's will have to believe that Imam Ismail (AS) passed away before Imam Jaffar As-Sadiq (AS) to validate Musa Kazim. The fact is that Imam Ismail's death was staged and he survived to fulfill his duty as Imam. Please re-read Javed's long post on the subject in this thread. Javed's post ha...