Dawoodi Bohra Forum

haqniwaat wrote:I'm just trying to explain the difference to you guys! Why are you pelting the messenger? And yes, most of the so-called royals are as you all say, but there are exceptions.

Can you name the exceptions (in your judgement) and the reasons why you consider them so?

^ I believe haqniwaat is one of the so-called royals from KQ side, just like adam is from MS side. I have seen the children of SKQ. They don't act like fake royalty. They work for their living. It improves the value of a human being more than any fake notion of royalty. Also, I don't believe Adam i...

max is nothing but a stubid mufatlal abde. they are all the same. when asked for proof they shy away. it is the same with zinger and adam, they refuse to give me proof since they say I'm not a believer. forget about these abdes, they have no life Sorry, truthseeker100, I will respectfully but stron...

He's referring to the London Charity Commission declaration. haqniwaat, Thanks bhai. And any idea as to why did the London Charity Commission declared in favor of SMS and against Syedna Qutbuddin? What was the declaration and was it an interim one? Thanks in advance. Bhai Haqniwaat, Do you have any...

Indian Justice System is utter bullshit … after all these months, the lameness of the system is that they do not have a competent translator in the whole wide India ! what language is the documents are in …. Arabic and Lisaan-e-daawat which is urdu – Arabic writing with guajrati tone. These are lam...

haqniwaat wrote:He's referring to the London Charity Commission declaration.

haqniwaat,

Thanks bhai. And any idea as to why did the London Charity Commission declared in favor of SMS and against Syedna Qutbuddin? What was the declaration and was it an interim one? Thanks in advance.

As the bundles of money flow to the coffers of administrative officials around the world to declare mufaddal bs the rightful Da'i, so do the venom and laanat parties. Attached is an audio of such a laanat party held by qaiid bs. So apparently according to them, it isn't Syedna Burhanuddin who creat...

Farida ben and team,

Good work. I hope you would have mentioned the website in the newspaper article and also open it up again now, see if more people want to take the survey.

Thanks.

This whole zahir batin thinking should worry all munineen, nay, all truth lovers. This will quickly lead to distrust and the paradox “ I am a Cretan. And I am telling you that all Cretans are liars”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox Follow the following chain of thought. A Bhai saheb ...

Brother SKQ Fan, Do you really believe that it is accurate to compare Syedna Qutbudidn's case to Imam Hussein? Do you thing the sacrifices are anywhere comparable? Comparing the two seems to be a stretch (a very long stretch) for me. The most noble grandson of the Prophet (SAW) gave his and his fami...

God bless people such as Dr. Ram Puniyani, Harsh Mander, (the late?) Gagan Sethi, Tesla Stelvad and many others who are fighting out of the goodness of their heart and for the true love of the country against this menace of communalism. What more can I say? That is all. May Allah bless them and give...

Haqniwaat, You clearly know details about Saifee mahal, including who lives where (that is a lot of details for commoners like us). Any idea why the full brothers and sisters of SKQ are not supporting him in public at all? Why? And are we to assume that they are actually still in regular contact wit...

truth seeker100, I have my doubts about the nass and some of the bayans and actions of Muffadal Moula have really turned me off, but I must admit that passing more than 7th grade or the ability to speak good English is not the criteria for a dai. That Muffadal Moula does not have either of the two a...

With reference ot the thread below, why does SKQ saheb not make such a document (if it exists) public? Legal restriction? Also, all the other documents that he had shown to Justice Ahmadi (based on Justise Ahmadi's statement to newspapers), show them to the community too? ---------------------------...

This is not a contest, nor a competition. We are dealing with social change, a revolution, in a society where it's residents are habituated to being loyal followers. The residents of our community have no recent experience in their sociobiological makeup or ancestry to revolt, and step and speak up...

i agree with what Alam says below. And this is the question that a lot of my relatives and friends ask: Where was SKQ saheb for the past 50 years when all these excesses were happening in our community? Why did he not speak up then? Or did he privately? I don't know. And many also tell me: He benefi...

Unhappy Bohra, Thanks for that audio clip. It is good quality. I have a general request. If anybody else has good quality audio/video of that nass event, it wold be good to put it up on this forum. Let people have a look at it. Other people may have taken audio recordings with their phones, and it w...

And where is that (what you say above) in the video recordings that are available online, for example from believesyednaqutbuddin?

This is regarding the Raudat Tahera Nass Video. I was in the masjid about 3 years back when the video was shown. I remember going away with a vague feeling of uneasiness and I also distinctly remember Moiz bhaisaheb's words, something to the following effect: "Nah, Mohammad nai, Muffadal" ...

It is sad, what these people did. They are intimidating him and preventing him from doing ziyarat. And they say in court that they do not prevent anybody. The response of the Bohra community in the last 5 months nails the lie that we are a peaceful community, and it makes me sad. It is a self made u...

I agree, Qutbuddin. If we claim to be the "spiritual heirs" of Imam Husain, we should have stood up against Modi (at least not get prominently in "bed" with him) as he basically was responsible for the killing of Muslims. This is just one example, there are others. Essentially, I...

Bhai Humsafar, Seeker 110, and others in the reform movement .. I understand that implicitly SKQ has to be responsible for what has gone on for the past 50 years as he was the mazoom for the past 50 years. And I understand as you and others (Bohra85 ??, on another thread) have mentioned that you all...

can anyone give information from how many generations is the rutba of DAI , mazoom and mukasir is in this same family, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Family_tree_syedna_mohammed_burhanuddin.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Family_tree_syedna_mohammed_burhanuddin.png http://...

Since childhood I was always listening to these cliche "Islam zinda hota hai karabala ke baad" , but I did not find a single rational reason as to how the martydom of Imam Hussain lead to the savings of teachings of Islam? How is that possible when the tragedy killed the very person who w...

guys,freebohra may be just asking a question. No need to call him names just for that. freebohra, I had written-up a small piece (a while back) explaining how the martyardom of Imam Husain helped Islam. I will dig it up, re-edit it and post it here. Inshallah it will be useful. It is my understandin...

This is sad, just so sad. I am sure some people have heard of this. http://www.bhaskar.com/article/UP-sisters-killed-after-alleged-gang-rape-in-up-bjp-slams-sp-government-4629355-NOR.html The thing that is so beyond words is the picture that the newspaper published in the above link. Should they not...

As far as clear audio, video Nass...There was nothing clear about audio and video. As far as I am concerned, the time to present evidence is long gone. Everything that appears late on the scene is suspect. Unfortunately I have had opportunity to observe the kavatras of his sons up close and persona...

A few thoughts on the 19th Rajab Nass video. All the reference in that video is at time 26 minutes and about 50 seconds, when the claim is that Moula said “Mufaddal bhai ne Nass nu taaj”. However, at time 20:40 to 20:45, we heard Moiz BS said “Moula farmawe che ke shezada Muffadal ne, nass nu taj eh...

It is possible that Syedna Qutubuddin camp may not be saying anything as they may be advised by the legal team – as the court case is going on. Just a guess of mine. And if the news that Muffadal Maula lawyers have “resigned” themselves are accurate, it may be that they were not happy about showing ...

I saw the video today at the Masjid. The 1st question is: If they had this video and others, why not show it 3 years back and minimize the split in the community? Did they not have an obligation to do that? The timing of it? Why now? And there was nothing in terms of time stamp that this was on 3rd ...