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- Thu May 02, 2024 12:43 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
YouTube has taken down the Syedna Succession Conspiracy video after two days of intense efforts to discredit it, by Mufaddal and his IT team. The reasons for pulling it down are baseless. In the two days the video was on YouTube, it generated over 500,000 views and 8,000 likes. Clearly this video ha...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:09 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
- Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Court orders are publicly available on Bombay High Court website. "The trial in the matter is now complete and it is ready for final hearing" After 8 long years the case is finally coming to an end. Final arguments start on 28th of November and continue every day until 23rd of Dec. Judge G...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:51 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
I should also add that courts and justices would be VERY WARY of any side taking action against a witness of the opposing side, since this sets an extremely bad precedent where future witnesses would be disincentived from coming to testify, which is not in favor of the overall goal of the court to u...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
That's correct, less to no weight. Justice Gautam Patel has said multiple times that at the time of final arguments, the cumulative sum of all evidence will be weighed accordingly. The case is a civil suit against Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, the witnesses are not under trial. Each witness' affidavi...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
They lose credibility.
dal-chaval-palidu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:30 am So if a witness says something that is blatantly incorrect under oath, what, if anything, is likely to happen in the court?
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
They were also delayed.
- Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:53 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Hah, that's rich. "closely controlled echo chamber". I asked you to respect basic decency, avoid name calling & clarify your beliefs. Clearly, all you are interested in is maintaining anonymity & stroking your ego.
- Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Regarding evidence, the court does not allow either side to make any evidence public, especially for a matter that is currently being heard, so it is not possible to post it at this point in time. There are, in all likelihood, over 10,000 pages of paper evidence, in addition to numerous audio and vi...
- Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:43 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
I presume the media will report on it, like they have done with most major developments. I can confirm that Defendant's advocates have submitted no further name, other than Dr. Malik. They have merely made a passing comment that they have "lots of witnesses; expert, translations, various nass i...
- Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:53 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
dal-chaval-palidu -
All High Courts in India are equivalent, and a judgment order from any one High Court holds jurisdiction over the whole country, regardless of which city the order originated from.
All High Courts in India are equivalent, and a judgment order from any one High Court holds jurisdiction over the whole country, regardless of which city the order originated from.
- Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:49 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Biradar - I'll begin by addressing the question you put to me, but then, I am not debating with you any further until we get a few ground rules clarified. I'll get to them later. On your question to me, I did not say alleged nass on Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin at Cromwell Hospital is invalid because he w...
- Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Not that I care to say more on this, but the Cromwell hospital "incident" has even less of a leg to stand on, than the alleged nass in Raudat Tahera (not that the latter has any leg to stand on either). In their version: Shz Mufaddal Safiuddin is in the town, but SMB RA, proceeds to pronou...
- Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
What are you going on about - Cromwell hospital video. In the same breath that you accuse Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin of despicable acts, and admit that it is apparent SMB RA's condition was not one that was fit to pronounce nass, days later after a stroke in a public setting among thousands, in that ver...
- Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Please, spare me the usual progressive regurgitated mantra. Criticisms against SMB RA are getting old and simply have no room in discussion. The Dawoodi Bohra doctrine is rather straightforward: the Dai, as the representative of Imam uz Zaman, is always on haq or furthermore, haq personified. You ei...
- Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin not showing up has absolutely everything to do with his lack of "courage". His absence is a great detriment to his legal case, but his legal team is keenly aware of his inability to conduct himself in a public setting (where he doesn't control the metaphorical microp...
- Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3860
- Views: 1094151
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
The doctrine is that private nass is a valid form of nass, the Imam (and in satr, the Dai) have the authority to do so if they deem it appropriate. In a case where multiple claims of private nass exist, each would have to be individually analyzed and given weight per their authority. Regardless, tha...
- Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
- Replies: 744
- Views: 283768
Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018
i have spoken to any uneducated bohra people from Indian villages and found them to be very stubborn and single track minded. For them Moula is Haq and the right path to salvation. When discuss about money laundering and money hungry Kothar they overlook all that as minor matters and see Moula and ...
- Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:44 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics
- Replies: 744
- Views: 283768
Re: Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018
And if that is what they want, if that is what makes them happy, who are we to protest ... :( It is incumbent upon every Mumin to strive towards khair khwayi (betterment), hidayat (guidance) and najaat (salvation) of his fellow brethren. The highest example in this regard is Daiz Zaman Syedna Taher...
- Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:24 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 36038
Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Ironically, you've answered the original question of this topic with your responses. Anonymous public settings on the internet have never and likely will never be a good forum for serious discussions, especially for a group of people as disorganized as here with no clear goal. Nothing stays on topic...
- Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:49 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 36038
Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
I see you have trouble following logic.anajmi wrote:
And who put them in the position to be making a choice? And if the choice is with them to choose their "Mother" and "Father" then the Nuss doesn't matter.
- Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:18 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 36038
Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
Both rutbas are that of Imam is Zaman, both are parents of Mumineen, Dai is Father and Mazoon is Mother, their actions are in harmony to protect Imam uz Zaman's Dawat. It is evident for those who can see. The evidence is that a majority of these "Mumineen" are now in the clutches of an ev...
- Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 36038
Re: Board Lurching Towards Oblivion?
As posted above, the Dai during the 3 year period, the one towards whom misaq was given, was Syedna Burhanuddin. Mumineen held reverence towards Syedna Burhanuddin. Haq na Dai. MS might have usurped the position of Mansoos and in doing so, stolen the "minbar and mehrab", but the fact remai...
- Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:53 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics
- Replies: 208
- Views: 108346
Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics
Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches. So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen? If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil...
- Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:15 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 361019
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Innumerable wrongs do not make a right, particularly when it's clearly dictated in the Quran. I couldn't have said it better myself. Innumerable wrongs by the Muslim community do not make a right, when the Quran has particularly stated examples of Allah commanding to do sajda to Waliullah. What mat...
- Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:38 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 361019
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Why don't you watch the waaz for yourself to find out?
- Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:43 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 361019
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
When it comes to collecting cash on various accounts, these guys will go all ballistic to mix faith tenets and wordly accounts, but when the tables are turned to show accountability again they dodge stating utmost obedience, trust, faith bullshit. Accountable only to faithful members = thieves like...
- Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:43 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 361019
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Thank you for your response, Ozdundee. Let me rebuke your comments in the order you presented them. 1,500,000,000 Muslims of Shia and Sunni agree on sujuds principles. I don't write history nor change ideology. Haqq is not about numbers, nor is it about the historical majority. Sunnis believe Abu Ba...
- Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
- Replies: 1065
- Views: 445361
Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016
Visual presentation is everything. No. Haqq is everything. Sajda-e-Ibadah (Prostration of Worship) to anyone other than Allah ( سبحانہ و تعا لی ) is Shirk in Islam. A person who commits shirk is treated as out of Islam. Sajda-e-Tahiyya is a kind of greeting. In earlier times, when a person used to ...
- Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:25 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?
- Replies: 410
- Views: 109512
Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?
The above email has been edited. The original email, which I am a recipient of, states "Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin Saheb RA" in the first line.