Dawoodi Bohra Forum

The ayat I quoted does not define the Creator. It simply states that Allah is the creator of the sun and the moon. Weill, the ayat also states that do sujdah to "allah" who created them (the sun and the moon). Now if this "allah" is fathomless, unperceivable, unknown and unseen, then "sajdah" to ...

In a cultish twist to baatin, Bohras are being told that every ruku and every sujood is really for Imam or Dai. This horrendous lie can be quite easily dismissed by clear reading of ayat 41:37, which states:

'Wa min ayati-hi al-layl wa an-nahaar, wa ash-shams wa al-qamar.
La tasjudoo li ash-shams ...

Now imagine the amount of money collected and where does that go ? I hope its anyone's guess. The people who are entrusted with the task of removing the money after the galla is full upto the brim have to literally enter into the underground portion and remove it with the help of ghamelas and ...

Ahlul Jahils ~ the sub-human species:

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/matam ... s-of-matam

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/matam ... s-of-matam

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/matam/matam

It is better to be in the fold and influence it rather than than be on the outside and throw rocks because if the rock hits me or my neighbour whether he is extreme fanataic, middle left or left I will not try to see your rational motive ..I will gang up with Kotahris and come for your neck as you ...

GreatBarrier wrote:Danish..in Kenya hunting is not legal PERIOD

I understand that hunting in Kenya was banned in 1977 but I believe it was recently modified and regularized by the Kenyan Wildlife Society, if I am not mistaken (that's why I requested you to google).

Back to aim at your silly facts not only do you hate Saydna but hate all religious leaders. What seems to be the problem here 'GB'?

Take this for a bait.. Kenya does not allow hunting only Tanzanaia, RSA and Zimbabwe allows. Says who? Just google "Kenya Hunting" and find your answers or visit ...

I think the title of this thread where it states "spiritual heads" (bohra syedna extends invitation to all other spiritual heads ) must be stressed/modified as "religious heads"; make sense? I believe there's a remarkable difference between spirituality and religiosity, wouldn't you agree?

thought this topic must be revived, in order to give the new abdes on the block, a chance to respond with their valuable comments. Bro Zulfi, I'd sent three separate mass emails to my family members, relatives, friends, acquaintances and even 'abde strangers' inviting them to partake on this forum ...

Does any one knows about stempad in Mombasa on Asura wher 100 injured and few died? Perhaps not in Mombasa but in Iraq, Pakistan and elsewhere.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-08-31-bridge-collapse_x.htm

http://pakistantimes.net/2004/03/03/top.htm

http://content.usatoday.com/topics ...

Though I am agnostic to Muhammad's real existence and have read many articles from both Islamic and non-Islamic Scholars in favor over the last 15 years, this one is another eye-opener: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122633888141714211.html

Strickingly, the classical Arabic word "muhammad" is a ...

the ortho abdesyednas are notable by their comments here.. in case no one has noticed.

usually they are quick to rush in like fools where angels fear to tread .... I'm in my late forties (early fifties) and a decade ago I already realized that where angels don't tread, jinns take precedence; if ...

With such dialogues (in a Muslim oriented Pakistani/Indian Film), it is no wonder that the Muslim ummah have Clash of the Religious Sectarian Titans.

All relegious beleifs are full of these rituals. Circumambulating a black stone building while doing hajj, throwing pebbles on some stones or for that matter, praying salat in a particular way on a particular time is nothing but a set of rituals. If those can be be justified why not these rituals ...

http://indianmuslims.in/khuda-ke-liye/ Certain dialogues from that link above, the following must be reserved specifically for the Bohra demigod Burhan (and all other similar religious leaders):

‘deen me dadhi hai, dadhi me deen nahi‘,
‘ haraam ki kamai jeb me rakhkar halal ghosht ki dukaan ...

porus wrote:If reality means "agreement", then you live in a fanciful world of your own creation.

I already persented the definition of reality; there's no if's, buts and ands. People live in a fanciful world not by reality but by illusional and delusional mindsets.

Great answer 'jawanmardan'. I agree with you 100%.

Would you opine that homosexuality, polyandry and polygamy is genetic (inbread) or bread by choice and circumstance? In case of polygamy and to some extent polyandry, married couples do tend to "cross the border" sometimes in their lives for ...

Reality is that there are sectarian differences amongst Muslims.

They believe in partisan history, partisan hadith and have partisan interpretations of the Quran. Only God knows the truth. The religious God that knows the truth was also partitioned. This God was a "gold medal" idiot who died long ...

Among the companions were two sons of Muslim bin Aqeel, Muhammad and Ibrahim. Husain told them that their father had martyred himself and their family had done enough and asked them to head back to Madina. The youngsters refused and said that they were willing to lay their lives down in the cause ...

Al-Muizz wrote:Al Zulfikar.......

As usual, what you post makes sence to your delusional Prozac laden mind only....

Go smoke another camel will ya, you dumb Wahabi!

Muizz, discuss the issues and subject matter without becoming a selfless maniac like your Burhanuddin.

by dismissing the whole kerbala narrative or episode as unimportant in islam, u are throwing out the baby with the bathwater! bro Zulfi, neither you, I nor anyone else on this planet knows the real truth about Karabla. There are two sides of the story and I hesitate to picture in opposition. There ...

Al Zulfiqar wrote:khuda aqa maula ne taa qayamat zinda ane abaad-o-shaad rakhe.

Ameen, summa ameen, LOL!

So, essentially, there is no difference between a person who mourns Husain's sacrifice and the one who mourns a recently deceased loved one . To be sure, the latter appears more immediate but, by a fiat, the former can be made to appear more immediate also, which appears to be the function of the ...

Arif, I'm afraid to mention that you are too darn ignorant and thick headed to understand that Karbala event (as per Shia version) DOES NOT by any means whatsoever make anyone's life better or even remorseful just because they mourn, groan, beat themselves up and make all sorts of gooey claims to ...

Arif, your replies above are fatwa based ad hominem argument (an invalid fallacy in syllogistic logic).

This is pure common sense that if someone does think that something does not make any sense and its a sheer waste of time than he/she should keep away from it unless he/she has nothing better ...

Some sects have abandoned Salah, Fast and Hujj, very essential and common elements of being Muslim. That is because thousands and perhaps millions have evolved and continue to realize the ancient pagan idolworshipping acts and rituals that are plainly useless, manipulated, exaggerated and corrupt ...

Arif, your replies above are fatwa based ad hominem argument (an invalid fallacy in syllogistic logic).

Sayedna is personally a very decent person and presently accept him as the Leader of my identity, culture and faith. Never judge a book by its cover.

I have no ambitions to challenge his authority and why should I if I am in a win win situation... Why not and what win-win situation are you ...

From my personal standpoint, I've numerous real life commitments and obligations to meet and overcome on a daily basis than to listen to regurgitated and gisi-piti exaggerated stories from various corners of the world every day in Moharram and other holy days throughout lifetime. Yeah, some people ...

What is the punishment for dacoity or thievery as per the "allah" of the quran?