Dawoodi Bohra Forum

do we have the nobility of spirit and the generosity in our hearts to contribute, do something? At the most Bohras could probably do in Haiti is niyaz naa jaman inviting all big aid officials , rather than giving cash or any other help to the ones really in need. Not to forget maula na skukr and ma...

Mustansir, If for argument sake I accept your above point , how do you explain the incredible mathematics in quran , the science which explains earth's gravitational force, the birth of a human being , the moon's orbit to name a few ? Do you reckon a tribalistic human being can discover these and a...

Improvisator,

and it will be hard for you all to understand because your brains are totally sunk in the materialistic world.

ziyafat at a rich bohris house is charged at 25-50 lakhs of Rupees - is it a reformist or maula taking this money?

now give your spiritual brain a little rest!

Thanks anajmi for bringing the thread back to a sane and productive level. You have directly & genuinely tried to answer some of the main questions raised by Mustansir and the likes...he should be satisfied this time atleast with your effort if not with the logic in the answers!

"But when you consider other factors, such as - numerous factual inaccuracies, strong patriarchal view common in that period, inequality of women, asking for killing of apostates or nonbelievers, injustices done in the name of war spoilage, numerous paradoxical or contradictory verses and the c...

"I know that Quran does mention most if not all the important figures from Judaism and Christianity...and is sort of an extension of the original storyline of the Bible and treated as the final revelation by Muslims." Mustansir, Quran cannot be said as an extension of storyline of bible, s...

Does this get logged somewhere? Is it a tally that is created by a diety or angel group or what? Is there a protocol in place that someone has gone and observed? Because no one who has died is here to confirm ANY of this. Anajmi you are saying that a book written over 1400 years ago is the authority...

Does this get logged somewhere? Is it a tally that is created by a diety or angel group or what? Is there a protocol in place that someone has gone and observed? Because no one who has died is here to confirm ANY of this. Anajmi you are saying that a book written over 1400 years ago is the authority...

its such a sad and pathetic state that hajj and umra are given second preference to karbala , yemen and other ziyarats now.

the reason why last prophet prohibited people from grave worship can now be understood well.

its such a sad and pathetic state that hajj and umra are given second preference to karbala , yemen and other ziyarats now.

the reason why last prophet prohibited people from grave worship can now be understood well.

Mourning can be done without Maatam. The most important thing is to remember the great sacrifice and appreciate it.
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Aarif,
Read my post again, I bet you havent!

I said the same.

Hillary has won it,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7178168.stm

It Doesnt Matter Whether Cry for 10days or Whole Year. Its all and the same. Becoz ur belive is same. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Well I didnt mention what I believe in , I was just comparing how and shias and bohras remember H...

Remembering Hussain's martyrdom the way bohras do and shias do differ majorly. Reasons why slowly it is becoming objectionable to most of the modern bohras are - Namaaz put off late due to extended sessions of Vaiz. Shias never even delay their namaaz by a minute during muharram. - chanting nohas an...

its not really abt the khalifat or the immamat ....the question is...does the sunni muslim recognise maulana ali as the leader of the community ...and his family members as the leaders who followed him.... ______________________________________________________________________________________________...

Facts must NEVER be allowed to come in the way of a good wahhabi theory ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ most of the non believing sycophants on this board hide their ismaili, nizari,athiest, secular junks behind imaginary theories ...

may Naik and Co guide you towards more terrorising of Hindus, Christians and Shias.Ameen.
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May Allah forgive you for thinking so...

That is precisely the problem here - he is being treated as a scholar, and a scholar of the highest esteem ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you search in the dictionary the meaning of scholar you will find : a learned person, esp...

I do not dispute that he is providing a "social" service but relying solely on people like him to educate the Muslim masses would be a dangerous solution. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now this is where I think you assu...

He stated that in not one of the 73 scriptures of the Roman Catholics or the 66 books of the Protestants did Christ say he was God but billions worship him as God. No they don't - they think he was the son of God! It is this sort of misinformation that makes the man dangerous. ______________________...

Nobigotry,
You disclaimed maatam and darees, for you salaat is just an ounce of good, you do not seem to understand or appreciate the beauty of Islam , you hate preachers like Zakir Naik.

Question - what brings you here to this board and what are you debating for?

Little wonder Dr No has a hold over you.
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You got it slightly wrong,

Islam and its good things has a hold over me , just like Dr Aga ad his royalness has a hold over your baatin! (big wonder)

You my brother are happy to tolerate a ton of nonsense for an ounce of good sense. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry brother nizari, I am no magician to know the faith of the people without they telling themselves. I forgot for...

Nobigotory, You can continue with going to darees and keep yourself spiritually charged with purjosh maatam. Zakir Naik types are not for you people who only just try to find faults with good people and reject them... I try to concentrate on good things he preaches, for instance he emphasizes that S...

I would also object if Zakir Naik has said yazid peace be upon him and he is a good person etc, this may be a mistake or a misconception in his mind, or his research on karbala is not enough. Karbala is surely an event to take sabaq from and Imam hussain and his kunba are surely the people from wher...

Kothar is neither oranges nor apples, They are the people who are addicted to infer laanat on who ever goes against them or their policies. People like Zakir naik are the ones who have conditioned themselves to say peace be on everyone they possibly can. Its a matter of akhlaq a bit like maulana Ali...

Aliislam, nobigotory, You seem to have missed my point, I am not advocating that yazid was not cruel or he didnt kill Hussain alai-his-salam. I havent listened to this particular speech from Dr Zakir Naik (if you have please forward the link)where he says yazid is a good person etc, What am I saying...

There is no doubt his speech and words stands on strong pillars of research and data and important is he himself has found out all of it. what you & I have is only the aamil's version of riwayat. The kind of study he has done and the knowledge which comes out as a result on other topics of Islam...

looks like after admin has warned zulfiqar from firing Kothar, he has found another target

Porus,
you sound a bit checked by anajmi's last post.

Good sign ...we still have some hope on you.

Yes I would like to focus a bit more on reform issues now , though others can mix it with occasional islamic tips to porus.