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- Sat May 07, 2011 2:52 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
- Replies: 78
- Views: 7713
Re: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
Stranger: I am similar to you, and I totally agree with you but I have some reservations in my mind. You can not surgically remove Syedna from bhaisahebs/amils, systems and jamaats etc. because eventually it boils down to the malfeasence on part of Syedna. it is like if my young son misbehaves in th...
- Wed May 04, 2011 6:20 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
- Replies: 78
- Views: 7713
Re: What have the Progs accomplished afterall?....Nothing
by stranger on Wed May 04, 2011 4:05 pm omabharti wrote: and What Abdes have accomplished Slavery, loss of thought, loss of self respect and list goes on......... Omabharti, Are you from mainstream DB ? I asked you the same in other thread as well but you skipped the question. Dont run, reply to it ...
- Tue May 03, 2011 2:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Progressive's stand on the other Bohra sects
- Replies: 50
- Views: 6119
Re: Progressive's stand on the other Bohra sects
by aqs on Tue May 03, 2011 11:50 am it is oft pointed out in discussions on this board that Saya and topi are of recent innovation and implemented in last 40 years after the Udaipur incident but its amusing to see Alavi bohras who have separated since a very very long time wear saya in their majlis ...
- Mon May 02, 2011 12:15 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Serious Breach of Court's order
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5654
Re: Serious Breach of Court's order
Mr. S. Insaf: Thanks for this info, but it is not much comfort because this is only one state. Can this effort be duplicated in other states, Most likely Maharashtra & Gujrat will be bigger bonanza if followed through along this same lines. May Allah help you, us and all the rest of the momeneen...
- Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dumb DB or PROGS?
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5301
Re: Dumb DB or PROGS?
by incredible on Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:26 pm ------------- why are u getting personal? reform as an movement havent achived any thing. --------------------------------------------------- Incerdibly Dumb: I thought you were studying in England, you think that is an achievement? your english is so poor, ...
- Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Thank you Admin.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1942
Re: Thank you Admin.
Dear Admin: I am basically writing to support brother Hussain KSA in thanking you for deleting the message (I have no idea which one) but just the same it serves no purpose to the reform movement to have such message on this board. Sometimes the reform movement goes so far off on a tangent that the ...
- Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Money Madness
- Replies: 29
- Views: 5877
Re: Money Madness
Even the oldest person in any jamaat in the world may he be 70, 80, or 90 years old were born and raised during the time of these 2 Dai(s) and have never seen anything but extortion, coersion, bullying and submission. They don't know anything better, so how can any one expect any rebellion against $...
- Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:42 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Read this to see if Dawoodi Bohras are a cult or not????
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2660
Read this to see if Dawoodi Bohras are a cult or not????
Jayanti Tamm.Author, 'Cartwheels in a Sari: A Memoir of Growing Up in a Cult' What Is A Cult? Recognizing And Avoiding Unhealthy Groups Posted: 04/14/11 12:31 PM ET Who in our over-stimulated, media-saturated, hyper-connected world would ever go and knowingly join a cult? The answer is no one. No on...
- Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
- Replies: 224
- Views: 34951
Re: Kitaab ul Himma on Sajada
Sorry I had posted this: under a wrong topic, this is where it belongs Abdes are all lying when they say their sajda to Dai is Taqbeel ul Ard or for ta'zeem and Takreem. Because when Arzi to Syedna is written, right on top after his name and titles etc and before the Arzi they write," Alf Sajda...
- Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: the dai disobeys allah ??
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6087
Re: the dai disobeys allah ??
Abdes are all lying when they say their sajda to Dai is Taqbeel ul Ard or for ta'zeem and Takreem. Because when Arzi to Syedna is written, right on top after his name and titles etc and before the Arzi they write," Alf Sajdaat il Ubudiyah". Now can any abde tell me what does that mean? My ...
- Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:41 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Thought for the Day
- Replies: 2
- Views: 523
Thought for the Day
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY! Royal - roy·al (roil) n. 1. Nautical, A sail set on the royalmast. 2. A paper size, 20 by 25 inches for printing, 19 by 24 inches for writing. 3. A dynastic family willing to slaughter 1/4 of their subjects to enforce obedience in the remaining 3/4. Author Unknown This explains ...
- Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:19 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziafats -- Anywhere and Everywhere.
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3991
Re: Ziafats -- Anywhere and Everywhere.
Bro Regal : What happens in a ziafat? You work your butt off all day and night in decoration and cooking, and making salaam envelopes not only for the zaada and zaadis but also for their whole entourage. The amount of salaam is dictated to you and the salaam for entourage is also fixed by themselves...
- Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Forum hijacked by OUTSIDERS
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3443
Re: Forum hijacked by OUTSIDERS
Baskin et al: I agree with you all about every discussion is degraded into personal attacks, insults and show-offism as to who is smarter and more knowledgeable etc. etc. I personally am very irritated and angry with anajmi who jumps into every thread with his sunni salafi angle and berates our reli...
- Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: too many namesake sheikhs
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1029
Re: too many namesake sheikhs
At one time you had to know fluent Arabic speaking and had to have sufficient knowledge of religion to be awarded this title. But, When Syedna Abdul Qauder Najmuddin saheb was forced by these knowledgeable sheikhs to claim himself a Dai Nazim instead of a Dai Mutlaq which he did reluctantly. But, he...
- Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sajda tujhe waajib hai
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4660
Re: Sajda tujhe waajib hai
I think, a good start will be to translate it into english as best as you can and sending it to all the embassies of muslim and western countries. This madeh in urdu will not mean much to western country's embassies and they will throw it away, but translated into a language they will understand and...
- Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:45 am
- Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
- Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
- Replies: 89
- Views: 21022
Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
I have been quietly watching all this time but decided to set few thiings straight. first of all we Houstonian are glad we were never under Los Angeles jamaat (LAJ). LAJ is the most corrupted jamaat in the whole USA where the Aamil, Secretary,and the treasurer have not changed in last 20 years, beca...
- Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
My dear child Areef: Why don't you first learn to read then come hear insulting others. Please tell me where did I say "If you don't love Dai you are not a muslim" ??? I said if you call yourself a dawoodi bohra then the love of Dai is a must. Also I am not mixing logic with historical fac...
- Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:03 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
Areef: quote: Can someone please explain why, in this day and age, are we not allowed to ask any questions without the fear of being ex-communicated, or baraat? !!! I think the best person to answer this question would be Kaka Akela. --------------------------------- 1)Areef calls Fakhruddin Shaheed...
- Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:29 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
"Areef: By YOUR logic all the muslims other then dawoodi bohras are not muslims" You are so smart to have done ziarat at great expense without even knowing whose ziarat you are doing other than his name, you called him a bheel, you called him a Dai, you called him bharmal. So what do I car...
- Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
"makberi: at the expense of steering away from the topic, i dont understand how the love of the dai has become a basic tenet or a precondition to become a bohra. i think to become a ismaili musaatali bohra u shud have love for Allah, the Prophet and Ahlal bayt an recognition of the lineage of I...
- Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
Areef:
Ok, you are very smart and I am very idiot as you say. You have very conclusively proved me to be an idiot.
Are you happy now
Ok, you are very smart and I am very idiot as you say. You have very conclusively proved me to be an idiot.
Are you happy now
- Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
Areef: thanks for a quick but a silly response. 1)He himself was not a bheel, as you mention. He was killed by bheels 2) his name was not Bharmal, as you mention. you are confusing with persons of later times. In your anxiety to show-off as a smart person and to spew venom for current Dai and his fa...
- Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5421
Re: Ziarat has become an expensive affair
"Areef: And as far as ziarat is concerned it is of a very honest and noble dai called Fakhruddin Sahid." Areef, I am shocked that you went to ziarat all the way to Galiyakote incurring a lot of expenses and living in an expensive room there, and travelled with your father, mother, sister e...
- Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Shaikh Ahmed Ali Raj passes away.
- Replies: 239
- Views: 37339
Re: Shaikh Ahmed Ali Raj passes away.
It is not nice to say bad things about some one who has passed on. But at the same time, we shouldn't put them on a much higher pedestal than they deserve. In this case you are giving him the honor of being Aqa Maola's teacher, now how is that possible when he was 98 years old and Aqa Maola is 97 ye...
- Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt
- Replies: 77
- Views: 5387
Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt
Make sure it's sea-salt (only ingedient listed "sea-salt," and that it does not contain "anti-caking agents" which is made with aluminum) and preferably from ancient mines or sea beds. The trace minerals are essential. Click to enlarge padSalt Your Way to Health By David Brownste...
- Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: why are muslims hated all over
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3704
Re: why are muslims hated all over
I copied this interesting and latest research results from PEW Research Foundation, and am posting it here to remind us all that we need to find better and effective ways to dispel misunderstanding, fear, and ignorance prevalent among the masses. ---------------------------- Opinions about Muslims a...
- Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:21 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: What's up with Quaser BS s/o Y.N in Mombasa
- Replies: 4
- Views: 658
Re: What's up with Quaser BS s/o Y.N in Mombasa
Yusuf Najmuddin was the biggest communist thinking person in our dawat, instead of State he used dawat as his aim. Everything and everyone existed for dawat. thats why as a head of Jamea he brainwashed all his pupils to think that way, and thats what we are getting from all Jamea graduates, Maola an...
- Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Corruption
- Replies: 2
- Views: 429
Re: Corruption
Bro Mumin: What our dawat needs is some sunshine in its affairs. The iron curtain, the greed, the corruption has bred so much filth and stink in the dawat affairs that it needs some airing. I have a few proposals, specially for those who live in western countries, but it will take determination and ...
- Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: upheavals in pune...?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 980
Re: upheavals in pune...?
This student also was saying about some shahzada or his sons coming to Pune but until then Abdeali is the head amil, he also mentioned that abdeali did some hanky panky on qabrastan land and sold it at a very low price without anyone's advice or cousel, may be that was the straw that broke his back....
- Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: upheavals in pune...?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 980
Re: upheavals in pune...?
Bro Al Zulfiqar: I am not from Pune but I spoke to one of students who is from Pune in Univ. of Houston. He said it was not a demotion but a promotion. Pune city population is going down and camp is more prosperous and thriving, and he is still the head amil of whole Pune. The only thing visible tha...