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- Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:59 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:58 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Blaming on YN to save Burhanuddin while the truth is that YN was already dead by 1987,,,,,way way long before every thing got wrong in present dawat. https://jameasaifiyah.edu/philosophy-history/luminaries-of-aljamea/dr-shehzada-yusuf-najmuddin-qr/ YN is like Jimmy Carter in the history of Dawat, H...
- Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:59 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1876
- Views: 540316
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
The Hindu enforcers proudly identify themselves with their saffron scarfs, demonstrating their affiliation with and support of Hindutva, Shiv Sena, BJP, etc. I have watched several such videos and they seem to use the proverbial iron fist in a velvet glove. Firm, well spoken and concise in their me...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:13 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
My best guess about you is this, you are an STF promoter... a planted agent on this Forum... your angle is that you have adopted persona of someone who comes out as personal enemy of STS and its off-shoots.. but vehemently defend the creed developed by STS and its off-shoots... so the net result is...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:41 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Can somebody please explain this in simple words? The #2 said it should be handled gently and #1 said he agrees. So what prevented them. Anybody else who is in the way should be shown their place. What is there to debate? Unless the statements were incorrect or made but not actually implied? I mean...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
Truth is Nass of Dai is not similar to and does not have same level of Ismat(protection) as Nass of mustaqar Imam on another Mustaqar Imam(as), and can very well be changed. But one side is denying this and other side is trying to prove this but instead of accepting inferiority of Ismat they are ma...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:14 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
richest dai ever LOL even the sound of it makes me feel awkward LOL BTW if you ever bring this up to any amil they will talk about Imam moiz and Imam Hakim and how they were kings and lived their life. excuse from history is always ready with them. Very true, but they forget to mention that Fatimid...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:53 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
Imposing all wrong on YN does not makes Burhanuddin correct, he clearly failed to do his duties. as far as Taher Saifuddin character is a concern even I have heard many things related to women from old people, he was a womanizer and many old people believed he had the wrong intentions on other wome...
- Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:48 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Adam - you mention: I have personally not heard about this but I have heard about SKQ asking SMB to handling many other bara'at situations (there have been very many of these) in a more light handed, diplomatic and smart manner to which SMB just said " I agree with your thoughts" and left...
- Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
AbdeYamani's grandma seems to have read too many Arabian Nights tales or perhaps Fifty Shades of Grey. This salacious gossip is the product of a fertile imagination, one which seems to concoct things from thin air. In any case, this is simply a case of projection. The so-called shaikhs who spread t...
- Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
AbdeYamani Thank you for sharing this detailed information. I have also heard that SKQ was to receive nass but YN threatened to spill the beans, and YN stopped it. I didn't know it was this deep. Please share more! STS had clearly directed SMB to nominate KQ as next in line, KQ was groomed for the ...
- Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:14 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Dear Kseeker, How did you manage to do all of this investigation without raising any red flags? When you have been around for as long as I have, you will tend to find people easily who love to get things off their chest. If you don't mind me asking, when you clearly don't believe STS, SMB, SKQ as d...
- Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:37 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
Re: Legacy of Muawiyah in Saifee Mahal.
I urge every true momeen. (munafiqun can stay out of bohra matters) on this forum who are member and those who are silent readers to post this thread to your respective amil whats app number and ask them if this is true. by doing this they will know that momeenin are coming to know the truth slowly...
- Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:28 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30574
Re: The 4 Ustaads of Jamia
Did the establishment act on information received from the students or was it just mere coincidence that these 4 gents were targetted. It's a bit of both. I will share what I have learnt about the 4 Ustaads and the movement itself... To answer your question, The 4 Ustaads (any many others in the Ja...
- Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Legacy of Muawiyah Laeen in Saify Mahal
- Replies: 42
- Views: 21518
- Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:03 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1876
- Views: 540316
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Shirk, Lanatullah alayhe.... This guy is Kharij from Islam. yes but jhahil and munafiqun who knows nothing about the Islamic rules and virtues will call you names and denounce you. because those munafiq knows nothing about the deen and its virtues. murti puja is haraam and not acceptable in ISLAM i...
- Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:40 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1876
- Views: 540316
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Al Iyazobillah. Like everyone else, I too have the freedom to express my opinion as I see fit.zinger wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:53 amAgain.. who died and made you God around here?AbdeYamani wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:41 am
Shirk, Lanatullah alayhe....
This guy is Kharij from Islam.
by the who died and made you the Arnab over here?
- Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:41 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1876
- Views: 540316
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020
Shirk, Lanatullah alayhe....
This guy is Kharij from Islam.
- Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:31 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5893
Re: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
I dont know if you guys lying or really dont know that bohra actually believes their dai is ilaul ard ( god on earth) nauzobillah. This is what is written in their " ala kitabo" Amil and other those who have read those books may deny but this is exactly what they believe. They just keep p...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5893
Re: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
Rasulullah SA had said the the deedar of Molana Ali SA is ibadat and has sawab, so now they promote that line by calling the dai as the Dai of Rasulullah SA and Dai of Ali SA and Dai of Panjatan SA and instruct people to strive for deedar and qadambosi and in return earn sawab. By this Logic Even A...
- Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5893
Re: Deedar Mubarak and Calling Moula Moula.
But I have seen old videos of STS in one the documentaries that is shown on 16th of every month, where in people are doing the same thing. (At a much smaller scale comparatively) From what I know this started during the time of STS, there was a Jahil Raees of Surat Shk EssaBhoy Haydermota, whom nobo...