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- Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:28 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
- Replies: 117
- Views: 19202
Re: where is the ziarat of present syedna's mother? why no
I may be way off in solving this mystery but methinks her name was also Amatullah Aaisaheba and she is buried within the big compound of Masjidul Moazzam in Surat near the mazaar of Syedna abdeali Saifuddin.As time passes the ladies are and will be forgotten including the one buried in London masjid...
- Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:14 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pune City Aamil: Priest or a businessman
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6264
Re: Pune City Aamil: Priest or a businessman
Br. Al Zulfikar : I am not from Pune but I used to subscribe to Nasim-e-Sahar for many years which is published from that city for last 80-90 years, I know for a fact that Abde ali bhaisaheb is the son of the previous amil Hatim bhaisaheb and not his son-in-law, Mohsin bhaisaheb is his son-in-law. A...
- Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: non muslims
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3929
Re: non muslims
Clueless: I don't really know your background or religious belief, but like they say, "Stick and stones may break my bones, but I will always be a bohra whether you call me a muslim or a non-muslim".Everyone has their own definition of what a muslim is, ask wahabis, or talibaans, Aga Khani...
- Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: help me
- Replies: 8
- Views: 943
Re: help me
Clueless: Here is clue for you Get,beg, borrow or steal the book, " Mullahs on the mainframe" by Jonas Blank (?) . it is very detailed, balanced and comprehensive book and you will learn a lot about bohras. And please don't call us bohri. This book is also available on Amazon.com or you ca...
- Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: wajeebat
- Replies: 205
- Views: 22338
Re: wajeebat
Sheitan-ul Burhania : the 2.5% for zakaat is in the books only for sabaq purposes and to show to the rest of the muslim world that we are not any different from anyone as we have not changed the shariat. But when you go behind the closed doors to pay your vajibaats things change drastically and they...
- Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of the quran
- Replies: 59
- Views: 10049
Re: Ismaili Interpretation of the quran
Br. Porus, Kalim, and Anajmi: I don't pretend to be as smart or widely read as you 3 are but I claim to be as old as you 3 combined are. This discussion of zahir, batin and tawil is getting to me because it has infiltrated almost in every topic. In above statement Br. Porus has said thatdawoodi Bohr...
- Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:52 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Zahir Batin SABAK
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4310
Re: Zahir Batin SABAK
Omabharti: Thanks for the compliment. I have no idea what is kothari bohra and a non-kothari bohra, so I leave it upto you to decide. Tawil ilm is not a very mysterious or convoluted ilm. It gives you the rational and meaning behind all your actions, like in vazu why do you say certain doas 1 time o...
- Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:16 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Zahir Batin SABAK
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4310
Re: Zahir Batin SABAK
Omabharti: Your question is good and the answer is : there are two schools of thought in spreading ilm (knowledge). First one is, like you said give it to everyone without any pre-selection, which is like throwing seed on the ground and hoping it will grow everywhere. The second school of thought is...
- Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist
- Replies: 41
- Views: 2986
Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist
El-Juan In case you forgot,This is a nation of immigrants. If not you then your grandpappy crawled out from another piece of rock. So don't tell us to go crawl back. If you don't like the discussion here then go back to wherever you were hiding under your own rock. Before you insult our intelligence...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:39 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Good news for Toronto Mumineens
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1568
Re: Good news for Toronto Mumineens
I have a friend living in LA who told me that when Syedna came out in public after Eid they did a khusi nu jaman and had fixed a unit of $94/ per family. He said there are 100 families, so they collected about $9400/ from the gullible turkeys. they did 2 jamans from this costing $1200/ a piece, that...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:00 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Fatimid Ismaili Islamic State Ideals.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 690
Re: Fatimid Ismaili Islamic State Ideals.
Br. Sphinx-it 's submitted essay (in part) says --------------------------------------------- - Islam doesn't separate the secular from spiritual. Islam is a comprehensive way of life and not just a means of faith. To this effect it provides mankind with theoretical and practical guidance covering a...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:45 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Two British Bohras killed in Iraq
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4386
Re: Two British Bohras killed in Iraq
Br. Muslim First: Salaams Are you not the one who exhorts everyone to read Al Quran. Also you have told us not to believe anything or any body else except Al Quran. When I quoted an Ayah from Quran which proved you were wrong about dead awliyah, you suddenly switched to a Tafseer (by mortal humans)t...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:03 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Two British Bohras killed in Iraq
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4386
Re: Two British Bohras killed in Iraq
Br. Muslim First wrote: ---------------------------------------------- "Does he do miracles on our behalf after his death? Correct answer is no. He completed his mission while he was alive and we have to follow his example and pray to Allah SWT for our needs." -----------------------------...
- Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Syedna’ Raza for participating on Progressive Site
- Replies: 6
- Views: 848
Re: Syedna’ Raza for participating on Progressive Site
Bro Jamanpasand : The response to your question is very simple. Before you start to read Quran-e-majid, you read Bismilla---- and before that you read Aoozobillh-----. What you are doing is asking Allah for protection from Shaitan even before expressing love for Allah. In Misaq momineen are told to ...
- Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:32 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Ethics of disagreement
- Replies: 2
- Views: 663
Ethics of disagreement
Following is a good article for everyone's information and possible usage Ethics of Disagreement by Khalid Dhorat Very often, people philosophize and agonize about the state of the Ummah. It is true that what happens in other parts of the world, affect us directly: we are concerned, we voice our fee...
- Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Khotar withou money.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1276
Re: Khotar withou money.
let me tell you it is not just shahzadas but the whole bhaisaheb clan. they are all so used to people cow-towing to them that even 7-10 year olds are so arrogant towards common people. At home they are taught never to do salaam to ordinary people even of they are old shaikhs, they will do salaam to ...
- Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:44 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: 3 "Laanatti"
- Replies: 166
- Views: 15102
Re: 3 "Laanatti"
Br. Muslim First: salam alaikum Imam has been reffered in quran-e-majid several places, off-hand I remember only one in Surah 36:12 which is surah Yaseen. "Kulla shayin ahsaynaho fi Imamin mubeen". In Sunni translations this word "Imam" has been converted to "elaborate book&...
- Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:58 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Why are Bohras so cowardice?
- Replies: 75
- Views: 9756
Re: Why are Bohras so cowardice?
In olden days there would have been at least 5-8 dais in 94 years. however, immediate past 94 years have seen the reign of only 2 dais. This is a long time to shape, mold and entrench the flock with practices that were never done before. The jamea educated na-laaiqs have prostituted themselves to th...
- Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: How bohras get jamatkhana....
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1674
Re: How bohras get jamatkhana....
Br. Waqar hemani: salaam alaikum Now that I understand your question, it is easier to answer, but thru no fault of yours I am still confused because in your sect the jamaat khana (a Persian word)is used for dual (or more) purposes, in our sect jamaatkhana is strictly used for feeding/eating and othe...
- Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:40 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: How bohras get jamatkhana....
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1674
Re: How bohras get jamatkhana....
Br. Waqar Hemani: salam Alaikum I don't understand your question. What do you mean by"how do we GET our Jamatkhana"???? We have both , a masjid and a jamaatkhana!!!! Your jamaatkhana is equivalnt of our masjid. Are you asking "how we get our masjid"???? or " how we get OUR j...
- Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Responsibility of the Dai towards non-Bohra's
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2331
Re: Responsibility of the Dai towards non-Bohra's
Br.khan19922001- Reading some books and a little bit of Quran made you get out of the bohra religion?????? That is very amazing!!!!! I have read a lot of books on Islam and all other major religions and have read the whole Quran with meanings with every footnote there is and I am still a Dawoodi Boh...
- Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:51 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Have a Thought in This
- Replies: 121
- Views: 12121
Re: Have a Thought in This
Br. Muslim First
Salaams-o-alaikum
As per Bohra religion, following are the shariat required amals: Aqiqa, Misaq, wedding and valima and burials &(Teja & chehlum Fatehas)
Salaams-o-alaikum
As per Bohra religion, following are the shariat required amals: Aqiqa, Misaq, wedding and valima and burials &(Teja & chehlum Fatehas)
- Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Have a Thought in This
- Replies: 121
- Views: 12121
Re: Have a Thought in This
Br. Guest 786 : In answer to your question about laga, it is not laga but lagat which in english means fare, like buying a ticket to go somewhere. In Many jamaats they have lagats for everything you do, for example child's chetti, aqiqa, misaq, wedding, death or any niyaz jamans. The lagat goes into...
- Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:57 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Toronto Bohri Jamaat Paying RIBA
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1071
Re: Toronto Bohri Jamaat Paying RIBA
Br. Agnostic: Your secxond strategy doesn't work, I tried it here in Texas and it back fired. your home-ownership and financing of it is a matter of public record in the city hall and any one can check it, all they need is your name and address and check it out. In my case, the Aamil had it in for m...
- Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:08 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Have a Thought in This
- Replies: 121
- Views: 12121
Re: Have a Thought in This
I consider Br. Kalim to be voice of reason. Please all of us let us not get emotional and think through the systematic draining of money from people to Dawat-e-Hadiyah (USA) which legally transfers it to Dawat-e-Hadiyah(India) and there it is withdrawan for all kinds of abuse familial use. Recently ...
- Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:25 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Blind Followers
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4670
Re: Blind Followers
Hello All: I am one of those blind followers of the Dai , but I hate all the money -mongering people surrounding him. Each one trying to outdo the other in raising funds so they can get even closer to the inner circle. Brother Kalim had mentioned the incident in his hometown of Pune about the Nasim-...
- Tue May 24, 2005 6:02 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2713
Re: I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
Dear All who responded and advised, Thanks Believe it or not I do like my religion of being a dawoodi bohra, its teachings and practices. The new money making innovations that I mentioned are all invented by the jamea graduates who present it to the shazadas and get the approval of the Dai. what has...
- Thu May 19, 2005 3:45 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2713
I am sick of 40 days of Ayyamut taabudaat
Talk about innovation in religion, this money-making fiasco was started just 10 years ago. For a mumin everyday should be a day of ibadat. This totally drains all the mumineen of their energies, finances, and valuable time from other meaningful activities. by the time his birthday comes everyone is ...
- Thu May 12, 2005 4:09 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I want to join Bohra Community
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2830
Re: I want to join Bohra Community
Please refrain from personal attacks and stick to the topic of the this string. highjacking the string to homosexuality or being wahabi etc does not contribute to increased knowledge for the starter of this string. There are many serious problems within the administration of the Bohra religion that ...
- Tue May 10, 2005 8:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: I want to join Bohra Community
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2830
Re: I want to join Bohra Community
Dear Brother Phushparaj: Don't listen to all the cynics here. Why don't you start with the friends that you associate with and are impressed with. Like all religions and their administration, Dawoodi Bohra is an excellent religion but a lot of greed has crept in among the clergy and priests due to l...