If you are a bohra, then that is obviously not true. Otherwise some neurons might've fired when multiple Dais showed up proclaiming themselves to be the true ones. And I am not just talking about this last split!!Allah has given the rest of us a brain.
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- Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3965
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:00 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1987
- Views: 820506
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya
أَفَمَن يَمْشِي مُكِبًّا عَلَى وَجْهِهِ أَهْدَى أَمَّن يَمْشِي سَوِيًّا عَلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ
Who is ˹rightly˺ guided: the one who crawls facedown or the one who walks upright on the Straight Path?
Surah Mulk Ayah 22.
قُلْ هُوَ الَّذِي أَنشَأَكُمْ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ و ...
Who is ˹rightly˺ guided: the one who crawls facedown or the one who walks upright on the Straight Path?
Surah Mulk Ayah 22.
قُلْ هُوَ الَّذِي أَنشَأَكُمْ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ و ...
- Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3965
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
PS - Imam A.S has bigger mission and he is will reveal himself when the time will come, bohra world is too small for any one concern. coming of Imam A.S is in all shia and sunni sahi hadith, denying such authentic hadith is work of mushriq only.
I agree with that. A million Bohras who are ...
I agree with that. A million Bohras who are ...
- Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:27 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3965
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
a) that this Hon'ble Court be pleased to declare the Plaintiff was appointed as the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq of the Dawoodi Bohra Community and that he is entitled to succeed as the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq of the Dawoodi Bohra Community;
(b) this Hon'ble Court be pleased to further order and declare that ...
(b) this Hon'ble Court be pleased to further order and declare that ...
- Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
- Replies: 3965
- Views: 1425674
Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court
What is a fact is that in the 50 years SMB never said a word in public about nass on anyone. There is no disputing this. Why not? I am not sure but it is possible he felt he had plenty of time and did not consider his own mortality. He was an insane megalomaniac and perhaps really did feel he would ...
- Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
A couple more ayahs specifically for you from the message that our enlightened prophet (ﷺ) brought.
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَا يَهْدِيهِمُ ٱللَّهُ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ
Surely those who do not believe in Allah’s revelations will never be guided by Allah, and they ...
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَا يَهْدِيهِمُ ٱللَّهُ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ
Surely those who do not believe in Allah’s revelations will never be guided by Allah, and they ...
- Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
You forgot about the enlightened prophet (ﷺ) who actually brought forth the message in the form of the Quran.
Anyway, keep searching for your enlightenment, one hit at a time.
Anyway, keep searching for your enlightenment, one hit at a time.

- Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:18 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
People opposed the Prophet's message too
Between the two of us, I am not the one who is opposed to the prophet (ﷺ)'s message. I believe in it whole heartedly. So that settles it then. I am enlightened.
And you in fact said this about the message of the prophet (ﷺ)
I'm going to write a book ...
Between the two of us, I am not the one who is opposed to the prophet (ﷺ)'s message. I believe in it whole heartedly. So that settles it then. I am enlightened.
And you in fact said this about the message of the prophet (ﷺ)
I'm going to write a book ...
- Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:30 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
I don't think there's any ambiguity in this translation. I understand it thus: It is Allah's decision to allow certain people to go astray, and by implication, it is Allah's decision to allow certain people to be drawn to Him. The agency is with Allah.
That is fine. Let us stick with your ...
That is fine. Let us stick with your ...
- Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:15 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
Incorrect translation. The correct translation is - There is no God but Allah.La ilaha illallah (there's no God but God).
- Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
I've read it many times, but the first part of the ayat underlines Allah's will ("whoever He wills"). Maybe it's the translation, in the original Arabic it might be clearer.
That is a scary ayah. Can you imagine if Allah has willed to let you go astray because you have chosen not to turn to him ...
That is a scary ayah. Can you imagine if Allah has willed to let you go astray because you have chosen not to turn to him ...
- Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
"Indeed, Allah leaves to stray whoever He wills, and guides to Himself whoever turns to Him..."
Looks like you fail to understand this ayah. There is absolutely free will. Read the ayah again and see if you can spot it.
Let me clarify "Allah leaves to stray whoever HE wills". So if you are the ...
Looks like you fail to understand this ayah. There is absolutely free will. Read the ayah again and see if you can spot it.
Let me clarify "Allah leaves to stray whoever HE wills". So if you are the ...
- Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:18 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
"that level of consciousness."
One doesn't reach "that level of consciousness" just because. He struggled and was divinely inspired. Quran says do not be burdened down by your children and your wealth in your worship of Allah. Buddha followed in those footsteps, left his family and his wealth and ...
One doesn't reach "that level of consciousness" just because. He struggled and was divinely inspired. Quran says do not be burdened down by your children and your wealth in your worship of Allah. Buddha followed in those footsteps, left his family and his wealth and ...
- Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
I'm going to write a book called the Furan. In it I'll mention that it is the word of God, and that it contains final and absolute truths.
I'll make sure that no one ever changes a word of it (which by the way is not true about the Quran: verses have known to be lost, forgotten, abrogated etc ...
I'll make sure that no one ever changes a word of it (which by the way is not true about the Quran: verses have known to be lost, forgotten, abrogated etc ...
- Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
"(the Prophet did not physically travel to the heavens as is commonly understood)."
And who told you that? Let me guess, he took some Arabian Drug and that is how he went to the 7th heaven? There are millions of people on drugs that take them to the 7th heaven and out of those how many have ...
And who told you that? Let me guess, he took some Arabian Drug and that is how he went to the 7th heaven? There are millions of people on drugs that take them to the 7th heaven and out of those how many have ...
- Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:06 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
As Allah commands his prophet (ﷺ) to say in the Quran
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Indeed, Allah leaves to stray whoever He wills, and guides to Himself whoever turns to Him—
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Indeed, Allah leaves to stray whoever He wills, and guides to Himself whoever turns to Him—
- Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:01 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
fear of Allah, and obeying Allah are not the true meanings encapsulated in the word Taqwa. The root for taqwa refers to the meaning of creating a barrier or a veil. A veil between that which pleases Allah and that which does not please him. Allah asks the believers to follow Allah and his prophet (ﷺ ...
- Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:40 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
There is a big difference between what you refer to as "God-consciousness" and what I have posted as tatmainnul Quloob. God-consciousness in the Quran is referred to as Taqwa. Fasting for example is a prescription towards gaining taqwa. Remembrance of Allah is a prescription for the latter. The ...
- Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
Dear Bro Humsafar,
When you say "The Quran offers no pathway to self-enlightenment" I am assuming you have spent years trying to understand the Quran but were still not enlightened? But you agree that the prophet (ﷺ) did gain this enlightenment and attained a higher state of consciousness? I do not ...
When you say "The Quran offers no pathway to self-enlightenment" I am assuming you have spent years trying to understand the Quran but were still not enlightened? But you agree that the prophet (ﷺ) did gain this enlightenment and attained a higher state of consciousness? I do not ...
- Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Where are the old members??
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7842
Re: Where are the old members??
The Quran offers no pathway to self-enlightenment, if self-enlightenment is understood in its classical, mystical sense of self-realisation, of reaching a higher state of consciousness.
Can you enlighten me and help me realize what the heck you mean by that so I can reach a higher state of ...
Can you enlighten me and help me realize what the heck you mean by that so I can reach a higher state of ...
- Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1987
- Views: 820506
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Actually, I have to agree with Sheikh Saab over here. The level of hubris demonstrated during the bohra majalis is astounding.
- Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra whatsapp duniya
- Replies: 1987
- Views: 820506
Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya
Aato shaitaan no kamaal che. Shaitaan loko ne aawa mojiza batawej taki loko Allah ne bhuli ne insaano ni kabar par sajdo karta thai jai.
- Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
The failure, as I cannot tire of repeating, is of Bohras who do not want to better their lot. They have come to find comfort and convenience in their slavery.
An excellent analysis. And there is an example of this in the Quran. The Bani Israel whom Musa (as) freed from the clutches of the firaun ...
An excellent analysis. And there is an example of this in the Quran. The Bani Israel whom Musa (as) freed from the clutches of the firaun ...
- Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:51 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Perhaps no Musa is coming and the fact that you say this, is itself a sign of the defeat.
Well, the last prophet was prophet Mohammad (ﷺ). The Dais and hidden Imams are a scam. So it is not a sign of defeat. It is a sign of accepting the truth. The final message has been delivered. Allah says in ...
Well, the last prophet was prophet Mohammad (ﷺ). The Dais and hidden Imams are a scam. So it is not a sign of defeat. It is a sign of accepting the truth. The final message has been delivered. Allah says in ...
- Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Also, I am no longer picking fights with the leaders of the jamaat. I used too, but realized it was useless and it was only causing harm to my other family members. All I do now is whenever the opportunity presents itself, I share my thoughts with my family and friends like I do over here but ...
- Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:36 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
Not sure why you classify it as a defeat. I certainly do not feel that way. Once I quit, I was boycotted, but damn it feels good to be a gangsta. I consider myself victorious. I am no longer bound by stupid waez and unIslamic customs. My family and I have no issues. I do not worry about being buried ...
- Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:26 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Why Khadijah does not get mentioned
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16623
Re: Why Khadijah does not get mentioned
you guys are so stupid it is unbelievable. Have you listened to the video you posted? The speaker refers to Ayesha (ra) as Syeda Ayesha radiAllahu anha Ummul Mumineen!!! And since you haven't actually paid attention to the video you yourself posted, I cannot expect you to understand anything that I ...
- Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:22 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
I guess because you were still in purdah you missed the previous discussion we had on the hypocrisy of the kids of SKQ.
Not in purdah. Just not interested. And that was a blessing. Not sure why I am here wasting my time. As kaka akela says, nothing new to see here, its the same shit. Time to move ...
Not in purdah. Just not interested. And that was a blessing. Not sure why I am here wasting my time. As kaka akela says, nothing new to see here, its the same shit. Time to move ...
- Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
- Replies: 813
- Views: 436240
Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viiYHjWyRDA
I saw this video. Have to say. He is a big hypocrite. He mentions about Bohras giving trouble during burial. This is a common occurrence amongst the Bohras. It happened during the time of his father and grand father. Didn't bother him at that time did ...
I saw this video. Have to say. He is a big hypocrite. He mentions about Bohras giving trouble during burial. This is a common occurrence amongst the Bohras. It happened during the time of his father and grand father. Didn't bother him at that time did ...
- Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:41 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Why Khadijah does not get mentioned
- Replies: 62
- Views: 16623
Re: Why Khadijah does not get mentioned
he raided prophets mosque in madina and made it horse stable where they urinated and shitted for 3 days--this is also asserted by third party historians.
Even if we are to assume that this is true, who was it that fixed this? The hidden Imams before they went into hiding? Anyway, I think this ...
Even if we are to assume that this is true, who was it that fixed this? The hidden Imams before they went into hiding? Anyway, I think this ...