Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1441

Unread post by TalibBhai » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:46 pm

there is a big chance she wasnt aware of it, so many cases I know where the other gives such bags and finally the carrier gets caught.

Bohras can be many thing but they arent involve in criminal activities. especially woman.

Bohra spring
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1442

Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 am

juzer esmail wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:38 pm Latest!
At $200 a gram street value.

She was carrying $1million worth of contraband

Bohra spring
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1443

Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:44 am

TalibBhai wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:46 pm there is a big chance she wasnt aware of it, so many cases I know where the other gives such bags and finally the carrier gets caught.

Bohras can be many thing but they arent involve in criminal activities. especially woman.
Really how would she be travelling to Tanzania South Africa, Ethiopia and Kenya without any knowledge she is a mule

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1444

Unread post by TalibBhai » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:21 am

Very much possible. People do funny things to gain trust and then do such things.

SBM
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1445

Unread post by SBM » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:17 pm

TalibBhai wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:21 am Very much possible. People do funny things to gain trust and then do such things.
Like Abdes and Amtes :P :P

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1446

Unread post by juzer esmail » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:31 am


Kaka Akela
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1447

Unread post by Kaka Akela » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:32 pm

Over 50 years old story. This was the time when kothar was trying to impose their own constitution for the first time on Nairabi Jamat, appointing governing body members selected by kothar.Until then they used to elect members of governing body democratically.

Mkenya
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by Mkenya » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:21 pm

Kaka Akela: The reason behind the 'hakal patti" of SMB from Tanzania had nothing to do with the imposition of a constitution. I was in Mombasa, Kenya when SMB and troupe arrived in transit to Nairobi and then Mumbai.

The efforts of progressive movements in East Africa worked conclusively to present solid reason for SMB's expulsion. At that time Tanzania was under strict exchange-control. East African Bohras were spending lavishly for SMB's visit. A tripartite 'hawala' scheme of Bohras in the Emirates, India and Tanzania was caught by the Tanzanian Government and SMB was deported as 'persona non grata'.

East African jamaats had a working constitution that was approved by the East African Central Council. It was democratic and worked extremely well. Philantropists, business people, professionals and others who were elected managed a massive portfolio of revenue properties from bequests. The revenue was used for the running of madrassa, stipend for amils, maintenance of musfirkhanas, masjid, kabrastan, etc. A big part of the revenue went for 'maafi' of fees for needy children at schools. Rations was anonymously supplied to the poor and widows. Bhaisahebs and Amils were figureheads who conducted all religious affairs.

All this was enviously observed by 51, 52 and Yusuf Najmudin during their visit in 1962. Under the direction of YN with the help of the Hebatullah family a concocted charge of 'gaali' to 51 was attributed to a prominent local family. YN declared a 'Day of Grief' in Mombasa, had Bohra shops closed and headed a motorcade followed by a 'sarghas' across town of hundred of Bohras shouting abusive slogans.

YN's main cohort was Sheikh Fidaali Hebatullah (expired). He can be seen with SBM on the tarmac at the airport. A heavy-set figure with a sherwani and feta. He is the uncle of Sheikh Huseinbhai Hebatullah who has now taken absolute control of all jamaats in East Africa. He is the facililator and implementer of all edicts emanating from Kothar.

Mkenya
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1449

Unread post by Mkenya » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:56 pm

In 1967 the head Bhaisaheb attended a Jamaat election meeting in Nairobi when he said it is Maulana's 'khushi' that Fidaali Hebatullah be elected president. This precipitated in the total resignation and gave way to a Kothar-leaning administration. Other jamaats fell like flies in the ensuing years. Having taken control Kothar through its 'Ayaans' liquidated all real estate and assets and pocketed the money. For revenue a strict protocol of wajebaat and other dues were put in place. The takeover by Kothar is now complete and irreversible.

RedBox
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1450

Unread post by RedBox » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:51 am

Every thing will end with time.

zinger
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1451

Unread post by zinger » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:27 am

Mkenya wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:21 pm Kaka Akela: The reason behind the 'hakal patti" of SMB from Tanzania had nothing to do with the imposition of a constitution. I was in Mombasa, Kenya when SMB and troupe arrived in transit to Nairobi and then Mumbai.

The efforts of progressive movements in East Africa worked conclusively to present solid reason for SMB's expulsion. At that time Tanzania was under strict exchange-control. East African Bohras were spending lavishly for SMB's visit. A tripartite 'hawala' scheme of Bohras in the Emirates, India and Tanzania was caught by the Tanzanian Government and SMB was deported as 'persona non grata'.

East African jamaats had a working constitution that was approved by the East African Central Council. It was democratic and worked extremely well. Philantropists, business people, professionals and others who were elected managed a massive portfolio of revenue properties from bequests. The revenue was used for the running of madrassa, stipend for amils, maintenance of musfirkhanas, masjid, kabrastan, etc. A big part of the revenue went for 'maafi' of fees for needy children at schools. Rations was anonymously supplied to the poor and widows. Bhaisahebs and Amils were figureheads who conducted all religious affairs.

All this was enviously observed by 51, 52 and Yusuf Najmudin during their visit in 1962. Under the direction of YN with the help of the Hebatullah family a concocted charge of 'gaali' to 51 was attributed to a prominent local family. YN declared a 'Day of Grief' in Mombasa, had Bohra shops closed and headed a motorcade followed by a 'sarghas' across town of hundred of Bohras shouting abusive slogans.

YN's main cohort was Sheikh Fidaali Hebatullah (expired). He can be seen with SBM on the tarmac at the airport. A heavy-set figure with a sherwani and feta. He is the uncle of Sheikh Huseinbhai Hebatullah who has now taken absolute control of all jamaats in East Africa. He is the facililator and implementer of all edicts emanating from Kothar.
Mkenya, i replied to your DM. Let me know if you got it because it has been sitting in my outbox for the past 2 hours now

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1452

Unread post by TalibBhai » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:12 am

Salaam e Jameel

Shehrullah il Moazzam na mubarak mahina jaari che. Apne sagla Maula TUS ni Dua Mubarak na tufail ma Shehrullah il Moazzam ma huqooq adaa kari rhaya che.

Aqa Moula Syedna Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula TUS aa dino ma Galiyakot ma tashrif farma che, ane Nazafat na khidmat guzaro waha khidmat ma hazir che.

Huzurala TUS ye karam ane ehsaan farmawi ne Sunday fajare namaz baad Maula tus ni hazrat ma Nazafat na khidmatguzaro ne Iftaar araz nu sharaf ataa farmayu che.

Ye silsila apan par waajib che ke hazrat ma Najwa us Shukr araz kariye.

Je sagla khidmatguzaro aa araz ma shaamil thaase, ye sagla na naam Moula TUS ma araz karwa ma aawse.

Emm umeed che aa sharaf ma sagla zarur shaamil thaasej ane moula ni dua haasil karse, je khidmat guzaro shamil thawa chahta hoi ye sagla niche link par payment kari sake che.

One minimum unit is 10$ (700 INR). Khidmaguzaro zyada si zyada raqam likhawe ane Moula TUS ni khushi haasil kare.

For Indian accounts:
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For USD accounts:
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Link will be closed on Saturday 9pm IST.

NOTE: THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED ANYWHERE ELSE! THIS SHARAF IS ONLY FOR NAZAFAT REGISTERED KHIDMATGUZARS.

Wassalam

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objectiveobserver53
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1453

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:52 am

TalibBhai wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:12 am Salaam e Jameel

Shehrullah il Moazzam na mubarak mahina jaari che. Apne sagla Maula TUS ni Dua Mubarak na tufail ma Shehrullah il Moazzam ma huqooq adaa kari rhaya che.

Aqa Moula Syedna Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula TUS aa dino ma Galiyakot ma tashrif farma che, ane Nazafat na khidmat guzaro waha khidmat ma hazir che.

Huzurala TUS ye karam ane ehsaan farmawi ne Sunday fajare namaz baad Maula tus ni hazrat ma Nazafat na khidmatguzaro ne Iftaar araz nu sharaf ataa farmayu che.

Ye silsila apan par waajib che ke hazrat ma Najwa us Shukr araz kariye.

Je sagla khidmatguzaro aa araz ma shaamil thaase, ye sagla na naam Moula TUS ma araz karwa ma aawse.

Emm umeed che aa sharaf ma sagla zarur shaamil thaasej ane moula ni dua haasil karse, je khidmat guzaro shamil thawa chahta hoi ye sagla niche link par payment kari sake che.

One minimum unit is 10$ (700 INR). Khidmaguzaro zyada si zyada raqam likhawe ane Moula TUS ni khushi haasil kare.

For Indian accounts:
https://rzp.io/l/9uFF1GfZC


For USD accounts:
http://paypal.me/servicepaymnt


Link will be closed on Saturday 9pm IST.

NOTE: THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED ANYWHERE ELSE! THIS SHARAF IS ONLY FOR NAZAFAT REGISTERED KHIDMATGUZARS.

Wassalam

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It appears that “Giving” is not fashionable in the second wave and Greedy-Grabby-Paws is in the TAKING mode again.

RedBox
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1454

Unread post by RedBox » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:23 am

Hahahahaha

Yes

This "haq naa" saheb is really out of sync from reality.

Ambassador_Mumbai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1455

Unread post by Ambassador_Mumbai » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:39 am

Cringe level is over the top...

Ambassador_Mumbai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1456

Unread post by Ambassador_Mumbai » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:39 am

Came across this Gem...

https://twitter.com/AmirulJamea

RedBox
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1457

Unread post by RedBox » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:54 pm

Any help for people in this ramadan from badri mahal?

SBM
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1458

Unread post by SBM » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:53 pm

RedBox wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:54 pm Any help for people in this ramadan from badri mahal?
Yes before COVID takes away all your wealth/saving, give to us so Moula can pray and hold your finger to Jannat when Covid finishes its work

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1459

Unread post by TalibBhai » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:21 am

Modi bhakts and muffy bhakts have soo much in similarity, both never admits that their master is wrong.

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1460

Unread post by TalibBhai » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:28 am

message going on which says bohras to stay at home between 29th april to 20th may

Reporter
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by Reporter » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:24 pm

Bohras have had it enough of Mufaddal's atrocities. This man tells it like it is.

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TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1462

Unread post by TalibBhai » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:36 pm

I dont think they take such audios seriously

it will only work when people will start beating them up

Aali kadar cho ke be kadar cho :lol:

objectiveobserver53
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1463

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:36 pm

Reporter wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:24 pm Bohras have had it enough of Mufaddal's atrocities. This man tells it like it is.

Wow! This guy has BA77$!

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1464

Unread post by TalibBhai » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:01 pm

Bohras may call other Muslims with names they might call them pan loving and pan chewing maulanas, but the truth is when the time comes they are the only people who stood up and help everyone, listen to this Hindu man talking about Muslims.

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zinger
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:30 am

TalibBhai wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:01 pm Bohras may call other Muslims with names they might call them pan loving and pan chewing maulanas, but the truth is when the time comes they are the only people who stood up and help everyone, listen to this Hindu man talking about Muslims.

SubhanAllah

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:52 am

દુનિયા માં જે કોમ પોતાને ભણેલા ગણેલા સ્માર્ટ અને સર્વગુણ સંપણ માને જે જેમને પૈસા ની કી ટેકનોલોજી ટેલેન્ટ ની કોઈ કમી નથી એમના રેહબર દુનિયા ને દીશા આપે છે આજે આ મુશ્કિલ સમય માં આ બધું ક્યાં ખોવાઈ ગયું આજે કોમ ને તેમના રેહબર ની જરૂર છે તેમની હૂફ ની જરૂર છે તબીબી મદદ ની આજે ખૂબ જરૂર છે તો સમાજ માં કોઈ વેવસ્થા કેમ નથી એ સભ્ય સમાજ માટે શરમ ની વાત છે
જે રીતે કોરોના નો પ્રકોપ છે એમાં વોહરા કોમ પણ બાકાત નથી અને તેની અસર આપણા લોકો ને પણ થઈ છે પણ સમાજ માં કોઈ હોસ્પિટલ કે મેડિકલ વેવસ્થા ઊભી કરાઇ નથી એ એવું સૂચવે છે કોમ ના લોકો રેહબર માટે એક ITS નંબર છે જેની કિંમત ચંદ લાખ રૂપિયા છે બાકી જો ફરજંદ કે ભાઈઓ સમજતા તો કોઈપણ માં બાપ નું કે વડીલ નું દિલ પોતાની ઓલાદ માટે બેચેન થઈ ઊઠે પોતાની ઓલાદ માટે પોતાનું દુઃખ ભૂલી દુનિયા ની સગવડ ઊભી કરી દે ક્યાં છે એવા રેહબર ખુદા ને કયામત દિન શું જવાબ આપશો ખુદા સવાલ કરશે કે મહામારી માં આપ શું કર્યું તો તે વખતે તમે એવુજ કહેશો કે વાજેબાત અને ઇકરામ ના પૈસા ઉઘરાવવા માં મશગૂલ હતા તો માનવતા અને ઇન્સાનિયત ની મદદ નો શું બહાનો કાઢસો
થોડું ભી નેતિકતા બાકી હોય તો આ ખરો વખત છે લોકો ના સાચા રેહનું બનવા નો લોકો નું ધન આજે નથી કામ આવતું માનવતા અને નિશ્વાર્થ સેવાઓ કામ આવી રહી છે હોસ્પિટલ અને ડોકટરો નર્શો અને સમાજ સેવી સસ્થાઓ માનવતા ઉપર મરી રહ્યા છે તમે તમારી કોમ ના ફરજદો માટે કંઈ કરવા ચાહતા હોય તો સમય છે હોસ્પિટલ ડોક્ટર ની ટીમ લોકો ની મદદ માટે ઉતરી દો તમારી તિજોરી ખૂલી મૂકી દેશો તો કંઈ ઓછું નહી થાય નહિ તો સચિન વાજે જેવા તમારા બાપ કોઈ બીજા ખાઈ જશે અને મુમિને ને લૂંટી ને જે ભેગુ કરું છે તેનો ચંદ હિસ્સો આજે મુમીન માટે ખર્ચી નાખો અને લોકો ના દિલો ને ખુશ કરી થોડી નેકી જમાં કરી લો પૈસા પૈસા પાછળ કોમ ને ભૂલી ના જાવ જવાબદારી નિભાવાઓ જે લોકો પાસે ખુદા ના વાસ્તાઓ આપી આપી લીધું છે એ ખુદા ના વાસ્તે હમણાં લોકો ને જરૂર છે થોડુ આપી દો

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1467

Unread post by juzer esmail » Sat May 01, 2021 1:00 am

Mustafa Yusuf Ali
ઇસ્લામમાં ઝકાત ફરજ છે એવા લોકો પર કે આર્થિક રીતે ખુશહાલ વ્યક્તિ જેમના પાસે એટલો માલ હોય કે તેના પર જકાત વાજીબ થતી હોય.આવા સુખી સંપન્ન લોકોને સાહેબે નિસાબ કહે છે.

કોઈ વ્યક્તિ આર્થિક રીતે સુખી સંપન્ન છે એનો માપદંડ શુ ?

તો ઓછામાં ઓછું જે વ્યક્તિ પોતાનો અને પોતાના કુટુંબના જીવનજરૂરિયાતની તમામ ચીજ વસ્તુઓ પુરી પાડયા પછી તેના પર કોઈ જાતનું દેવું પણ બાકી ન હોય ત્યારે વધેલી રકમ પર ઝકાત આપવી.અને બાકીની ચલ અચલ સંપત્તિ ની ઝકાત નિયમ અનુસાર ગણવી જોઈએ પણ આ વસ્તુ અપર મીડીયમ ક્લાસ ને લાગૂ પડે છે.

આમ ઇસ્લામિક નિયમાનુસાર ઝકાત માટે ના નિયમ આપણી સરકારના ઈનકમટેક્સ જેવા જ છે.

પરંતુ ઘણીબધી વાતમાં મુસ્લિમ પ્રથાઓથી અલગ ચાલવાની ટેવ વાળા આપણા દાઉદી વ્હોરા સમાજમાં એવું ચલણ પાડવામાં આવ્યું છે કે વિધવા, બે સહારા વૃદ્ધ, કાયમી બીમાર, શારીરિક લાચાર, પરાવલંબી મોહતાઝ , ગરીબ, પારકા કામ કરવાવાળા , માથે દેવાના ડુંગરા હોય તેવા, બેંકના વ્યાજથી લઈને માથાભારે લોકોના ઊંચા વ્યાજ ભરતા તમામ લોકો પાસેથી પણ વાજેબાત (ઝકાત સહિતના આર્થિક અનુદાનનો સમૂહ) વસૂલ લેવામાં આવે છે !!!

અને આ વસૂલી માટે ખાસ બહારગામથી વ્યક્તિ મોકલવામાં આવે છે, ગામના આમિલ બહાર જાય બહારગામના અહીં આવે એમ ગામની અદલાબદલી થાય.
ટૂંકમાં ગામના લોકોની શહેશરમ ભરવી ન પડે તેવા અજાણ્યા લોકોને ઝકાત વસૂલવા મોકલવામાંઆ આવે છે આ એમની જૂની એમ.ઓ. છે.

જે લોકો ઝકાત લેવાના હકદાર છે તેઓ પાસેથી ઝકાત વસૂલ કરવી એ અંત્યોદય ,બી.પી.એલ. કાર્ડ ધરાવતા લોકો પાસેથી ઇન્કમ ટેક્સ લેવા જેવું વિચિત્ર અમલ છે.

ઘણા તો આખું વરસ મુઆસાત માટે ધક્કા ખાઈને દેવડીના પગથિયાં અને ચપ્પલ ઘસતા હોય, ગામના ઉઘરાણી વાળાને ઉડાઉ જવાબ આપતા હોય એ પાછા રમઝાનમાં દાતાર બનીને સૌથી પહેલા ઝકાત આપવા પહોંચી જાય !! અમુક તો રોદણાં રોઇને ભોળા વિદેશી વ્હોરાઓ પાસેથી માસિક મદદ પણ છાનામાના મેળવતા હોય અને એ પાછા "સાહેબે નિસાબ" બનીને વાજેબાત ભરવા પહોંચી જાય, અને પેલા એની વાજેબાત લઈ પણ લે !! આમ દોગલાપણું બંને બાજુએથી છે.

સમાજમાં બે જ વર્ગ છે એક કે જે ઝકાત આપવા માટે પાત્રતા ધરાવતા હોય તે છે અને બીજા ઝકાત લેવાના હકદાર (કુરાનશરીફમાં જણાવેલ છે) હોય તે છે.

કદાચ કોઈ ગરીબ કે દેવામાં કરાજમાં ડૂબેલા લોકો લોકેલાજે કે દબાઈને વાજેબાત ભરવા જાય તો પણ ત્યાં હાજર ગામના કમિટી મેમ્બર કે લોકલ મુલ્લાસાહેબે તેમને સમજાવીને પાછા મોકલવા જોઈએ કે ભાઈ તમો પર ઝકાત હાલ વાજીબ નથી,

ઇસ્લામની આવી આદર્શ વ્યવસ્થા દાઉદી વ્હોરાઓમાં ક્યારે લાગૂ થશે, થશે પણ ખરી કે નહીં ?

TalibBhai
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1468

Unread post by TalibBhai » Sat May 01, 2021 4:32 am

above post is 100 percent true. lenaar bhi bewakoof che and aapnar bhi.

ya pachi lewuj che to ek cover tayyar raakhe jamaat, jitla lidha etlaj yaa ehna thi wadhare emne tarat aapi de.

juzer esmail
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

#1469

Unread post by juzer esmail » Mon May 10, 2021 4:04 am

*आवाज़ दे रही हैं मज़लूम की सदाएं*

पूरी इंसानियत इस वक़्त इतिहास के सब से कठिन दौर से गुज़र रही है। ख़ासकर हमारा मुल्क हिंदुस्तान। जहां एक तरफ़ हर शहर हर बस्ती में लाशों के अंबार का दिल दहला देने वाला मंज़र है, वहीं मुसलसल लॉकडाऊन ने लाखों लोगों की रोज़ी रोटी के दरवाज़े बंद कर दिए हैं। बीमारी और मौत के ख़ौफ़ ने अगर इंसान को बेमुरव्वती की हद तक ख़ुदग़र्ज़ बना दिया है तो दूसरों का दर्द समझने वाले ऐसे रहमदिल इंसान भी हैं जो अपना वक़्त, पैसा और माल अल्लाह के बंदो की ख़िदमत में दिल खोल कर लगा रहे हैं। वो भी ज़ात पात और मज़हबो मिल्लत में फ़र्क़ किए बग़ैर।

मगर अफ़सोस कि हमारे बोहरा समाज की तरफ़ से ऐसी कोई बड़ी पहल अब तक दिखाई नहीं दी है। हालांकि हर बड़े शहर और कस्बों में हमारे समाज के पास जमातख़ाने, मदरसे और स्कूल जैसी काफ़ी जगहें हैं। फिर बोहरा समाज पढ़ा लिखा और आसूदा भी है। वैसे तो इन्फ़रादी तौर पर अल्लाह के कुछ बंदे ज़रूरतमंद लोगों की मदद कर रहे हैं मगर इज्तिमाई तौर पर ये काम मुंबई से आलाकमान के फ़रमान आने के बाद ही मुम्किन है और एक बार फ़रमान आ गया तो अनथक काम करने वाली जांनिसार नौजवानों की टीम भी है क़ौम के पास।

दूसरे लोगों की मदद तो ठीक है, मोमिनीन की मदद के लिए भी सरदार की तरफ़ से कोई हल्की सी सुगबुगाहट दिखाई नहीं देती। कोविड की इस दूसरी लहर में बड़ी तादाद में हमारे समाज के लोग भी चपेट में आए हैं। कितनी मौतें हो गई हैं और हो रही हैं। ऑक्सीजन, हस्पताल और दवाई की क़िल्लत की वजह से कितने ही ग़रीब और ज़रूरतमंद मोमिन बड़ी परेशानियों का सामना कर रहे हैं।

दरअसल मोमिनीन के लिए क़ौम के सरदार की जो फ़िक्र है वो सिर्फ़ दुआओं तक महदूद है। उनकी फ़िक्र कभी भी मदद का रूप नहीं लेती। हां उनके ख़ज़ाने का मुंह अगर खुलता भी है तो सरकारी राहत कोष के लिए, जबकि उस पर पहला हक़ क़ौम के ज़रूरतमंदों का है। ख़ासकर इन सख़्ततरीन हालात में। वैसे भी ये पैसा मोमिन की मदद के लिए ही मोमिन से वसूला जाता है।

आपकी तरफ़ उम्मीद से देखने वाले दिलों की सदाएं कह रही हैं कि हुज़ूरेवाला "आपकी क़ियामत तक की ज़िंदगी के लिए दिन रात दुआ मांगने वाले मोमिनों की छोटी सी ज़िंदगी की भी तो कुछ फ़िक्र कीजिए। उनको भी जीने का हक़ है। आज टेक्नोलॉजी के दौर में लाइव वीडियो के ज़रिए जिस वक़्त आपको मंज़रे आम पर आ कर अपनी चाहने वाली क़ौम से रूबरू होना चाहिए, मदद का भरोसा दिलाना चाहिए उस वक़्त या तो आपने ख़ुद को घर की चारदीवारी में गोशा नशीन कर लिया है या अगर त्यौहार के दौरान पूरी एहतियात के साथ अवाम के बीच आए भी हैं तो ज़ियाफ़त और क़दमबोसी की ख़ातिर। क़ौम की खातिर नहीं। ख़ुदारा इनकी मदद कीजिए। क़ौम के परेशान हाल लोगों तक पैसों की मदद भी पहुंचे और मक़ामी जमात के ज़िम्मेदारान ख़ुद दुखियारों से मिल कर हस्बे ज़रूरत उनकी मदद भी करे।

आप इन लाखों लोगों के आदर्श हैं, उम्मीद हैं। आपके पास बेहतरीन निज़ाम है। आपकी आवाज़ पर लब्बैक कहने वाली आशिक़ों की मज़बूत टीम है। आपको एक बार सिर्फ़ मुहब्बत और हमदर्दी की नज़र से अपने शैदाइयों की तरफ़ देखने की ज़रूरत है। इनकी असल ख़बरगीरी करने के इरादे की ज़रूरत।

वैसे तो दूसरे समाज के लोगों की मदद करने का भी कोई इंतज़ाम किया जाना चाहिए। ख़िदमते ख़ल्क़ का इस से बड़ा मौक़ा नहीं मिलेगा। फिर साम्प्रदायिक नफ़रत के इस माहौल में दीने इस्लाम का भाई चारे और मुहब्बत का पैग़ाम देने का ये सही मौक़ा भी है।

सिख समाज और दीगर समाजों की कुछ तंज़ीमें जब ख़िदमत का ये काम अंजाम दे सकती हैं तो हम क्यों नहीं? हम तो आख़िरत में ईमान रखने वाले लोग हैं। नेकी के बदले अल्लाह से बेहतरीन बदला मिलने का यक़ीन रखने वाले लोग। वैसे कुछ मुस्लिम तंज़ीमें ख़ैर के इस काम में ज़रूर पेश-पेश हैं।

अल्लाह हमें भी कहने सुनने से ज़्यादा अमल करने की तौफ़ीक आता फ़रमाए! आमीन या रब्बल आलमीन!!!

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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018-2020

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon May 17, 2021 5:46 am

Open Request

Today I visited Shk Mustansir Rangoonwala, senior ustad Karachi Jamea Saifiya, who is in Rawalpindi for Ramazan, to pay my Silah Fitrah and Zakaat but he refused to accept it, saying that Jamaat will pay on your behalf. I asked the reason for this but he didn’t reply. Although Zakaat is not applicable to the poor like me, I still managed Rs 1100 only to get Allah’s blessings. Shk Mustansir Rangoonwala: insulted me and said even a Faqir can pay more than this. I replied that I am also a Faqir but he told me to get lost.

Last year when I visited Amilsaheb Quresh BS Abbas BS Zakawi for Thali amount and paid him Rs.10000 he said you should pay Rs. 50000, Allah give you Barakat.I informed that it is beyond my limit. Yesterday the in-charge of Faiz al Mawaid informed me that last year's Rs 40000 were due, beside this year's amount. I told him that it is not possible for me to pay but I can manage Rs 10,000 in installments. I also told him that if this is not possible then please stop sending me daily Thali. However, he threatened me and told me that you have to pay this amount at any cost.

Mumineen of Pakistan know well that only a decade ago my father Shk Mustafa Ghatila was one of the leading financiers of the Rawalpindi Bohra Jamaat. Burhanuddin Moula and Shehzadas used to stay at our residence. My father donated millions and gifted buildings in Mazarat. But when our fortune turned, the Jamat and Amilsaheb’s attitude also changed. My late father spent his final days in a very miserable condition. Today, I am feeling that our Bohra community is only for the rich but not the poor. Even in corona, when people lost their jobs and businesses, the attitude of our Jamat management has not changed. Their harsh and humiliating approach forces poor Mumineen to commit suicide.

I hope this reaches Aqa Moula Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin (tus).

Abd e Syedna (tus)
Mustansir Shk Mustafa Ghatila
Rawalpindi
Cell: 0310 6781000
ITS No. 60404427
Thali No 46
Rawalpindi, Pakistan
Date: 11-05-2021