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Aarif
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:52 pm

Danish,

You are always getting confused between the followers and religion. Some ignorant idiots around the globe are trying to spoil the name of Islam. However, if you come up with a percentage then these people will not even form 10% of the total followers of Islam. You have been constantly blaming all the muslims for the wrong doings of these 10% people. Honestly after reading your posts I feel that you do not have any concrete agenda except releasing the steam of hatred against Islam which is boiling inside you... I think it is high time you invite your intelligent entity to come and make a CONVINCING presentation against Islam on this site because are idiotic posts are getting more and more meaningless and irritating by every passing day...

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:59 pm

Correction
are idiotic posts
should be read as "your idiotic posts"

Danish
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:38 pm

Aareef,

And you are always in delusion in mixing things up and misunderstanding the differences between a religious system and a socio-political one, in-spite of mentioning several times. You just don’t get it, do you?

Perhaps you can point to one such ignorant Muslim idiot out of the 10% around the globe who is trying to spoil the name of Islam. Bring an example and let’s just witness what this idiot has to say to the world at large about Islam that is NOT what your Allah or Muhammad, Quran, Hadith or any of your Dai stated? Besides, assuming there are 10% out of 1.5 billion Muslims, that leaves us with hundred and fifty million Muslim idiots enough to take the world by storm; WOW!!! But the truth is that ALL 100% are ignorants and will support each other when it comes to Islam. Perhaps only 5% may be the “peaceful” ones (Agha Khanies included under the garb of Islam).

And here’s another gem (a wondrous nugget of Islam): How is it possible to segregate followers from the main tenets of the religion that they indiscriminately believe in? All followers (Muslims) of the religion (Islam) regardless of their invented sects believe, uphold, proliferate, fortify and encircle within the same boundaries throbbed upon their Allah, Muhammad, Quran and Ahadith. And Muslims are the best of all nations to come defending, enforcing and fortifying their Sharia with all sorts of ifs, ands & buts from the Quran and from the he-said/she-said ramblings of Bukhara and Co. which they themselves do not understand spouting utter foolishness with utmost grace. It is these brainless zombies I’d talked about.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:56 pm

This sorry excuse of a human filled with hate and hate mongering calls himself a humanist. All humanists should be ashamed of this human excreta. He has already displayed his non concern with the deaths of innocent humans as long as they are muslims. Everything this pathetic being says should be flushed down the toilet.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Alislam » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:11 am

Danish,

Death and destruction caused due to political gains or for that matter, any reason other than (so called) "religious" is acceptable to you as a humanist..Is this the defination of a humanist according to you ??

Perhaps you require good lessons in world history to understand "How, When, Where, Why" wars have been fought !!

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:49 am

Originally posted by Alislam:
Danish,

Death and destruction caused due to political gains or for that matter, any reason other than (so called) "religious" is acceptable to you as a humanist..Is this the defination of a humanist according to you ??
[/QB]Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political gains is acceptable to me. If you can't, then I stand affirm in declaring that Muslims are the most dishonest, hypocritical, clumsy and delusional creatures your fake fathomable deity has created....they are brainless zombies and I am proving them on their faces.
Perhaps you require good lessons in world history to understand "How, When, Where, Why" wars have been fought !!
Just so that you know that in ancient history wars that have always been brought about by the "prophets and messengers of gods". One Faith, One Law, One King. This is bitter truth that religionists can't fathom.

Islam has always been a militized draconian faith from bottoms up and nothing has changed till today. Study your Quran and find out. There's nothing in it that is of any significance other than a few good quips and quotes here and there. Quran is not love but war. In fact there is no word "love" in the entire Quran but threatening commands, hatred, jealousy, anger, severe punishments and gobbledegook beliefs often inconsistently, contradictorily and repetitiously hithered and thithered. Today, an elementary school kid can produce a better spiritual book than Quran with consistency, clarity and love.

Produce Surah Like This!: http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/avij ... a_sura.htm

Why Mock Islam: http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/introduction.htm

Islamic Wars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... slim_world

Islam's War Against West: http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:53 am

Originally posted by Alislam:
Danish,

Death and destruction caused due to political gains or for that matter, any reason other than (so called) "religious" is acceptable to you as a humanist..Is this the defination of a humanist according to you ??
Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political gains is acceptable to me. If you can't, then I stand affirm in declaring that Muslims are the most dishonest, hypocritical, clumsy and delusional creatures your fake fathomable deity has created....they are brainless zombies and I am proving them on their faces.
Perhaps you require good lessons in world history to understand "How, When, Where, Why" wars have been fought !!
Just so that you know that in ancient history wars that have always been brought about by the "prophets and messengers of gods". One Faith, One Law, One King. This is bitter truth that religionists can't fathom.

Islam has always been a militized draconian faith from bottoms up and nothing has changed till today. Study your Quran and find out. There's nothing in it that is of any significance other than a few good quips and quotes here and there. Quran is not love but war. In fact there is no word "love" in the entire Quran but threatening commands, hatred, jealousy, anger, severe punishments and gobbledegook beliefs often inconsistently, contradictorily and repetitiously hithered and thithered. Today, an elementary school kid can produce a better spiritual book than Quran with consistency, clarity and love.

Produce Surah Like This!: http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/avij ... a_sura.htm

Why Mock Islam: http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/introduction.htm

Islamic Wars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... slim_world

Islam's War Against West: http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:24 am

And a must read Muhammad's BELIEVE IT OR NOT commical animated religion starting from page 1 to page 24: http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/01.htm

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by feelgud » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:37 pm

A messiah for our time

Khushwant Singh
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Prejudice is like poison. Unless purged out of one’s mind in early stages, it can spread like cancer and make one incapable of differentiating between right and wrong. Of the many kinds of prejudice, the worst is to believe that one’s own religion is superior to all others, which may be tolerated but never taken seriously or accepted as equally valid as one’s own. The most misunderstood of the major religions today is Islam, which, after Christianity, is the second most widely practised religion in the world. It also gains more converts than any of the other religions. Prejudice against Islam was spread in Christendom from the time Muslims gained dominance in the Middle East, North Africa and Spain. Christian crusaders failed in their missions to crush Islam in its homeland but continued to vilify its founder, Mohammed. The emergence of militant Islamic groups like al-Qaida and taliban gave them reasons to do so. The attack on the World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon in Washington on September 11, 2001 provided fresh ammunition to vilifiers of Islam. Since then Islamophobia has been deliberately spread throughout the non-Muslim world. The two principle contentions of the anti-Islamists are that Islam was spread by the sword and that its founder-prophet was not the paragon of virtue that Muslims make him out to be. It can be proved by historical evidence that Islam was not forced upon the people; it was readily accepted by millions because it offered them new values, principally equality of mankind and rights to women that were unheard of in those times. In countries like Indonesia and Malayasia, Islam was not forced on the population by Muslim invaders but by Muslim missionaries.

Muslims are extremely sensitive to criticism of their Prophet. A popular adage in Persian is: ba khuda diwaana basho, ba Mohammed hoshiar! — “say what you like about God, but beware of what you say about Mohammed.” They regard him as the most perfect man who ever trod upon the earth, a successor of Adam, Moses, Noah, Abraham and Christ. He was the last of the prophets. If you honestly want to know how Muslims see him, you ought to take a good look at his life and teachings, which he claimed had been revealed to him by God. It would be as wrong to judge him by the doings of al-Qaida and taliban or by the fatwas periodically pronounced by Ayatollahs and half-baked mullahs. You do not judge Hinduism of the Vedas and Upanishads by the doings of Hindus who, in the name of Hindutva, destroy mosques, murder missionaries and nuns, vandalize libraries and works of art. You do not judge the teachings of the Sikh gurus by the utterances of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and by the murder of innocents by his hooligans. Likewise, judge Mohammed by what he taught and stood for and not by what his so-called followers do in his name.

Mohammed was born in Mecca in 570 AD. He lost both his parents while still a child and was brought up by his grandfather and uncle. He managed the business of a widow, whom he later married. She bore him six children. He took no other wife until she died. He was 40 years old when he started having revelations while in trance. They proclaimed Mohammed as the new messiah. Such revelation kept coming at random, sometimes dealing with problems at hand, at other times with matters spiritual. They were memorized or written down by his admirers and became the Quran, which means recitation. It should be kept in mind that Mohammed was not preaching ideas of his own but only reiterating most of what was already in the Judaic creed. Allah was the Arabic name for God before him. Similarly, Islam was ‘surrender’ and salman was ‘peace’. Mecca was the main market city of the Bedouin tribes. They gathered at the Kaaba, the huge courtyard with the black meteorite embedded in it during two pilgrimages — the bigger Haj and the lesser Umrah. Mohammed accepted Judaic traditions regarding food which is halaal (lawful) or haraam (forbidden, such as pig meat), names of the five daily prayers and circumcision of male children. Mohammed only asserted the oneness of God that did not accept of any equal such as the stone goddesses worshiped by different tribes. Mohammed never forced people to accept his faith and indeed quoted Allah’s message of freedom of faith. “There must be no coercion in matters of faith — la ikra f’il deen.” Further: “And if God had so willed, He would have made you all one single command; but He willed otherwise in order to test you by means of what He has vouchsafed unto you. Vie, then with one another in doing good works!”

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080216/j ... 909500.jsp

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by turbocanuck » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:10 pm

Originally posted by Danish:
And a must read Muhammad's BELIEVE IT OR NOT commical animated religion starting from page 1 to page 24: http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/01.htm
Danish, you are stooping as low as the lowlife Sahabas who also have denigrated the Holy Prophet pbuh as ...........not even worth repeating today. and the Idiots and Hypocrites on THIS forum support the evil Sahabas. NOT a word of defence for the prophet. NONE!
Posting such villifying material about the Holy Prophet, is not on. buddy. It does not serve any purpose.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:47 pm

This is how these hate mongering muslim and Islam haters mislead people. List of wars in the muslim world is not the same as Islamic wars.

Then the new surah that the idiot came up with. Can he name one person who has memorized this new surah? Or one person who recites this surah daily? Or one person who is willing to live or die by it? Not coming up with a similar surah doesn't have anything to do with words and rhymes. It has everything to do with belief in them. The hate mongering human excreta will never be able to figure that out.

There are a lot of people who mock Islam and there are a lot of reasons they do that. Some of them are simply human excreta and some haven't understood it. Islam is here to stay. Whether by birth or by conversion, Islam today is the fastest growing religion in the world. By 2025 it will replace Christianity as the religion followed by most people on earth. Islam isn't going anywhere. It is time the human excreta start dealing with this reality.

Alislam
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Alislam » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:47 pm

Danish,

If you have found nothing good in the teachings of Holy Prophet (pbuh) and the quran, then it is your personal problem.

I pity the depressed people like you who cannot undertand the beauty of a holy figure like Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) who introduced the concepts of 'Equality, humility, simplicity, justice and peace.

The more the west and zionists are blowing the 'ante Islamic trumpet', more "Free thinking" people are reading about Mohammad (pbuh) and Quran and getting attracted towards Islamic teachings and finally joining the faith.

Google (googly master) and see the statistics of the hundreds and thousands of western scientists, intellectuals and elites reverting to Islam every year.Majotiy of this converts are women.

If you cannot find anything good in Prophet's teaching and Quran, then go and get a thorogh check of your brain and tighten up the loose ends.

Danish
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:33 pm

Originally posted by Alislam:
Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) who introduced the concepts of 'Equality, humility, simplicity, justice and peace.
Name one? Prove that those concepts were never known to anyone other than Muhammad in his own or prior to his times? Third, bring your evidence that a bodyguard of Allah (an angel with wings) met Muhammad secretly in a cave who bought messages from a fathomless deity and then Muhammad declared himself Allah's prophet?
If you cannot find anything good in Prophet's teaching and Quran, then go and get a thorogh check of your brain and tighten up the loose ends.
For you to make such statements speak volumes of our own ingenuity, disintegrity and dishonesty which clearly rests upon the following that you deliberately ignored:
Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political gains is acceptable to me. If you can't, then I stand affirm in declaring that Muslims are the most dishonest, hypocritical, clumsy and delusional creatures your fake fathomable deity has created....they are brainless zombies and I am proving them on their faces.
And this one for Aareef:
Perhaps you can point to one such ignorant Muslim idiot out of the 10% around the globe who is trying to spoil the name of Islam. Bring an example and let’s just witness what this idiot has to say to the world at large about Islam that is NOT what your Allah or Muhammad, Quran, Hadith or any of your Dai stated?
The modern growth of Islam is the coalescence of a super organism drawn together by the magnetic attraction of a meme. But this meme has an advantage: The social body it is trying to pull together has existed as a unified social beast in the past. The old reflexes of solidarity are still there, waiting to be aroused. The meme of the new Islam is not laboring to generate a small and fragile embryo. It is simply attempting to awaken a sleeping giant.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:29 am

Originally posted by Danish:
I have no doubts about the 9/11 and I do believe that it was an inside job.
Originally posted by Danish:
Prove that those concepts were never known to anyone other than Muhammad in his own or prior to his times? Third, bring your evidence that a bodyguard of Allah (an angel with wings) met Muhammad secretly in a cave who bought messages from a fathomless deity and then Muhammad declared himself Allah's prophet?
You just "believe" 9/11 was an inside job, yet you critcize others who "believe" in religious hogwash and you demand proof. Double standard isn't it ?

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Alislam » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:05 pm

quote:
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"Alislam, if you consider youself an honest person and a true believer of your God, then please point to even the slightest hint that I have given which states that death and destruction caused due to political gains is acceptable to me. If you can't, then I stand affirm in declaring that Muslims are the most dishonest, hypocritical, clumsy and delusional creatures your fake fathomable deity has created....they are brainless zombies and I am proving them on their faces".

--- The venom that you vomit in each of your posts against the muslims and Islam and you even accept that this is a war for Oil and Power and nothing to do with religion.

Still you crtisize the oppressed (read muslims) and not a word for the oppressors.
What inferernce do a sane person deduce from this ??

Just read all your posts on this forum and see how biased you are towards the oppressors and you want me to show proof ?

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:34 pm

Originally posted by Alislam:
What inferernce do a sane person deduce from this ??
Alislam, a sane person would deduce that you are a dishonest person and a manipulator of words. You lied before which you hesitate to submit and now you bring two more lies in your last post and then boast about reading all my previous posts. Either you don't understand my posts or simply cranching and wavering in baseless defense and denial.

You and a few others get all riled up and hijack the main issues concerned time again and dwell upon personal attaks. But when it comes to your Burhanuddin, kothars, sunnies, shias, and all your other brothers in faith, you are ready to spout your venoms on them. I have criticized Islam, its belief system and practices in general that Muslims unrelentlessly and mindlessly adhere to and instead of diligently discussing them, you get detached from sanity and civility. Religion has made you brainless zombies because you can't think for yourselves in the light of reason and your intolerance of any criticism which proves my point further. This is mainly because you are lied and brainwashed from childhood into believing and submitting to a fake God, his prophet and its belief system.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:34 am

In a previous post, Danish, you wrote that you believe in a creator, in fact it was a conclusion you came to based on your theories about the planet's creation.

There is of course, no proof for your assertion. Yet you seem to ask for proof of the existence of the Muslim god. It just seems a bit inconsistent at the least - and perhaps even a bit of a double standard.

Alislam
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Alislam » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:42 am

You and a few others get all riled up and hijack the main issues concerned time again and dwell upon personal attaks. But when it comes to your Burhanuddin, kothars, sunnies, shias, and all your other brothers in faith, you are ready to spout your venoms on them. I have criticized Islam, its belief system and practices in general that Muslims unrelentlessly and mindlessly adhere to and instead of diligently discussing them, you get detached from sanity and civility. Religion has made you brainless zombies because you can't think for yourselves in the light of reason and your intolerance of any criticism which proves my point further. This is mainly because you are lied and brainwashed from childhood into believing and submitting to a fake God, his prophet and its belief system.

--- Criticism of the wrongdoing of an individual or a group of people do not tantamount to blaming the preachings of Islam.

The very reason they are critcized is due to non adherence to the basics..whereas you generalize and attack everything Islamic

Is this very difficult for you to comprehend ??

You call all others who do not ascribe to your views as zombies,brainwashed and intotelant and yet claim yourself to be civil, humanist and tolerant ?

Aarif
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:48 pm

Danish,

Looks like the intelligent entity is on leave. Woh kyaa kehte hein "Intelligent entity chali gayi aur peeche iss gadhe ko chod gayi"

BTW: You say that you have become a better human being after leaving the faith in which you were born. But your posts definitely say something else about your split personality. If one analizes your posts then one can definitely conclude that one free thinking zombie like you is equivalent to the 10% idiotic followers of Islam. And I am extremely sure that muslims all over the world are very happy to loose a lunatic pshycopath like you. So pls stay out of Islam. We are better off without you.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:51 pm

Either you don't understand my posts
Danish,

No one understands your posts including yourself and the intelligent entity...

The day you will understand what you write you will stop visiting this site... :D :D

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:26 pm

Alislam, it is you who seem to have a comprehension problem. You spout lies and manipulate words and when confronted and questioned, you run away from them injecting other issues and going in circles. O such hypocricy. If you love to run up and down and jog in circles, then this is not the place. I recommend Mecca or a gymnasium.

Safiuddin, can you quote what I had stated and compare it with your statements.
Orinally posted by Aareef:
If one analizes your posts then one can definitely conclude that one free thinking zombie like you is equivalent to the 10% idiotic followers of Islam." And I am extremely sure that muslims all over the world are very happy to loose a lunatic pshycopath like you.
I like the analogy of your prophet and his followers. :cool:

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:38 pm

I like the analogy of your prophet and his followers.
A good start for a gone case like you. ;)

Danish
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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Danish » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:01 pm

Prejudice is like poison. Unless purged out of one’s mind in early stages, it can spread like cancer and make one incapable of differentiating between right and wrong. Of the many kinds of prejudice, the worst is to believe that one’s own religion is superior to all others, which may be tolerated but never taken seriously or accepted as equally valid as one’s own.
A true picture of Islam.
The emergence of militant Islamic groups like al-Qaida and taliban gave them reasons to do so. The attack on the World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon in Washington on September 11, 2001 provided fresh ammunition to vilifiers of Islam. Since then Islamophobia has been deliberately spread throughout the non-Muslim world. The two principle contentions of the anti-Islamists are that Islam was spread by the sword and that its founder-prophet was not the paragon of virtue that Muslims make him out to be. It can be proved by historical evidence that Islam was not forced upon the people; it was readily accepted by millions because it offered them new values, principally equality of mankind and rights to women that were unheard of in those times. In countries like Indonesia and Malayasia, Islam was not forced on the population by Muslim invaders but by Muslim missionaries.

Muslims are extremely sensitive to criticism of their Prophet.
Al Qaida, Taliban and the likes are the true followers of Islam who follow Muhammad’s footsteps as explicitly stated in their holy books word for word. Islam without doubt was spread by the sword and this is clear from analyzing the Quran itself. One can witness the intolerances, frustrations and anger of the Muslim word at large who are ready to threaten, slaughter and kill in the name of their Allah any human becoming an apostate and all those who speak against or criticize Muhammad and Quran and their hatred for all non-Muslims and their desperate attempts in throbbing their belief systems upon all and converting them. They have utmost disregard for any non-Muslim trying to live in peace and harmony in their own Muslim countries and make them obey their strict and harsh religious systems and whose lives are often miserable in disgust and fear. The same situation applies when these Muslims live in all non-Muslim countries as well. The Muslims are bereft of reality and reason and best at treason and bigotry in defiance of their sacred yet dangerous systems.
A popular adage in Persian is: ba khuda diwaana basho, ba Mohammed hoshiar! — “say what you like about God, but beware of what you say about Mohammed.”
Wonderful!!! This is an Islamic Joke of Eternity. If it wasn’t because of this Allah who sent his body guard Jabraeel to shake up Muhammad in a cave, then he wouldn’t have his Islam to begin with because Muhammad’s words were supposedly Allah’s. So saying anything against Allah would be disastrous but Muhammad deceived and tricked his people for he himself acted as Allah. Since Muhammad was also Allah, then logically anyone can say anything against Muhammad. Muslims are bigots in befriending Allah but not Muhammad, thus Muhammad becomes superior to Allah.
They regard him as the most perfect man who ever trod upon the earth, a successor of Adam, Moses, Noah, Abraham and Christ. He was the last of the prophets. If you honestly want to know how Muslims see him, you ought to take a good look at his life and teachings, which he claimed had been revealed to him by God.
The Quran does not give any indication that Muhammad was anywhere remotely close to being a good man, let alone perfect. And Quran is neither Muhammad’s nor Allah’s words in ditto but a hogwash collection from parchments and oral narrations of pagan sahabas compiled and revamped to become the Best Hadith.

Quran Questioned:
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15438.0

The Religion of Peace:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... olence.htm

The Violent Quran:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/ha ... lence1.htm

Satanic Verses:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MVzhi7ZU8-k&feature=related

After reading all the above links and countless others, no sane person in their right mind can justify the mercifulness and graciousness of such a creator. But since Muhammad was himself an advocate of a fake Allah in words and deeds, it clearly displays his schizophrenic and barbaric nature which Muslims follow.

And the author of the article above, Khushwant Singh, was a drunkard and a sex maniac for he loved Scotch Wiskeys and beautiful women. Go figure!

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Alislam » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:59 pm

And the author of the article above, Khushwant Singh, was a drunkard and a sex maniac for he loved Scotch Wiskeys and beautiful women. Go figure!

--- Even a sex maniac and a drunkard understands the difference between 'Right and Wrong'..Maniac like you will take ages and still have flip flops in mind.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:10 pm

Danish,

The links provided by you are excellent examples of insane minds trying to interpret religion... There is a saying in Hindi "Bandar ke haathon mein Ustra" (Its like giving a sharp razor in the hands of this free thinking insane monkeys)
Khushwant Singh, was a drunkard and a sex maniac
Khuswant Singh was also a free thinker. Your statement looks like a tribute from one free thinker to another :D :D

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:20 am

Originally posted by Danish:
I have no doubts about the 9/11 and I do believe that it was an inside job.
"no doubt" and "belief" breed religion and fanaticism.

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Re: Support from the community

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:10 pm

Like what happened in Iraq after the Americans had "no doubt" that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and would blow up the world in 45 minutes!!

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:13 pm

Blow up the world in 45 minutes ? Now I hadn't heard that. Is this fact or "no doubt" "belief" ???? :D

Above Average Bohra
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Re: Support from the community

#89

Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:40 pm

You were probably busy saving farts to your bank. ;)

Fatwa Banker
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Re: Support from the community

#90

Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:38 am

Oh..ok...my bad..."no doubt" "belief".