Sujud wrote:well its not about what arguments i had or whether they will ever listen or not, i just want to understand what these bayaans are, why is ther so much of secrecy around them and why the ones who have atttended them consider themselves so learned.
And no body has addressed that in their replies.
And I am not getting swayed from my logic either. I havent attended the compulsory misaak, as I can't say ma'am for the heck of it
Sujud
The word " Tawil " is not exclusive to Bohra doctrine . It is believed by Shia Islam and Sunni ( Sufis ) that there is an hidden meaning in the words of the Koran and actions we perform. That is called " Tawil " .
There are various grades of knowledge to be attained or books to understand before learning about Tawil.To learn about Allah Ta'ala 's creation , you put yourself and your son/daughter to a fixed system of :
1) Kindergarten
2) Primary School
3) Secondary School
4) College
5) Under Graduation
6) PHD
To learn about Allah Ta'ala 's creation and this physical world you cannot jump queue . You cannot make your child learn about PHD while he is still in primary school . He/she will go bonkers. Likewise , a reputed school doesn't come to him . He/she has to go there . You cannot be knowledgeable about Allah Ta'ala 's creation in the comfort of your own home with self help books . Even if you believe yourself to be , you will not be accredited by anyone else.
In the same way , Bohra Doctrine has devised a fixed system for dissemination of knowledge.It usually starts with learning the name of Allah Ta'ala , His Prophet Mohammed SAW, His Wasi Ali AS , The leader of all women in Paradise Fatema AS , Leader of All Youth of Paradise Hasan AS and Husain AS , Imam uz Zaman AS and his Dai Zaman TUS. Then comes the part where you learn Arabic letters and learn to read Koran . Then you are taught Wudhu and Namaz . The kids are then encouraged to hifz various Surahs of Koran or if possible the whole of 30th Para . In a madrasa , kids learn various nasihats and hamd and madehs in shaan of Rasullah SAW , Aimmat Tahereen AS and their Duat Mutlaqeen RA especially the present Dai TUS.
Once of able mind and after giving Misaq to Imam uz Zaman AS and his Dai Zaman TUS, , in a sabaq , first comes Daim ul Islam , Daim ul Islam Saani ( Part 2 ) , Shahrul Akhbar , Tambi Gafeleen ( zahiri kitabs ) .
Then one moves on to Asas Tawil , Tawil Daim , Majmu Tarbiya and other various kitabs. And lastly , one learns the Haqiqat kitabs .
Similarly , it would be futile to jump queue to learn more about Allah Ta'ala and akherat.