Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

[salsabeel]

The abdes are circulating msgs that the judge got' wahye' and thus opted out of the case. fateh mubin! dont they realize MS and company wanted this judge? I sometimes feel that these people live in a distorted reality. The judge gave his opinion of settling the case out of court. SKQ was of the same mindframe, infact invited SMS for a talk a long while ago. SMS refused then, as well as now in front of the judge. So in conclusion, it is SMS and party who opted for a court battle, due to ignoring all attempts at resolving the issue outside of court by SKQ.

[salsabeel]

watsapp msg:

Mufaddal bhaisab keeps saying that Mawlana Burhanuddin is no ordinary person. Of course he is not. He is our Mawla and Dai of Imam.
But:
-firstly, the point is if Mawlana Burhanuddin had indeed spoken as they described in hospital, of course it would have been reported to the hospital, and
-secondly if this was a mu'jiza as they are now saying, why didn't they say so in the first place. How did the shezadas not report this as a mu'jiza to all mumineen!! Obviously. If there is a theft going on it is not the people doing the burglary who turn the lights on

[ghulam muhammed]

Isn't this a big blow to KQ camp. When I told that the court would not entertain such petition with loose evidence and its not the matter of 700 pages petition as the court looks for testimonies, evidence and explicit statements which were absent.

What made you say that the court would not entertain such petition ? Has the Honourable Court thrown out the case ? Has the case not been admitted in the first place ? Has the date for the next hearing not been given ? So how could anyone even say that the court would not entertain such a petition ?

[adna_mumin]

One gets the clear feeling that

One side has played all their cards London, Letter, Laanat, Lame and Lost (dare i say in Lies)
The other side is being Slow, Sometimes subtle, Steady, Smart and most importantly Sure of what they say.

And the other feeling is there are clear, admissible in court documentary evidence that they ultimately did go ahead and file the suit. May Haq prevail. Aameen.
And Insha Allah ta the deceit of Baatil will stand clearly exposed at least once and for all for our era.

[ghulam muhammed]

The next hearing of this case is on 29.4.2014 and the judge will be HON'BLE SHRI JUSTICE G.S. PATEL

[ghulam muhammed]

What actually happened in the London Hospital :
Actually Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tried to say NURSE and poor Mufaddal bhaisaab heard it wrongly as NASS

watsup msg.

[ghulam muhammed]

IN THE COURT ROOM

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[monginis]

What actually happened in the London Hospital :
Actually Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tried to say NURSE and poor Mufaddal bhaisaab heard it wrongly as NASS

watsup msg.

hilarious, I am looking forward to subscribe such messages.

[monginis]

It was good that SMB was in London when he got paralyze attack, if he was in INDIA they would easily bribe doctors and submit in writing whatever they require to.

[Bohra spring]

I don't think the case is dismissed , but the court is setting expectations that it is a very difficult case for it to intervene

That does not mean SMS is right it just means it can never be logically or transparently proved

Abdes just have to accept it that they have to blindly follow SMS , while SKQ had to object . End if day it is the followers decision where they want to go.

[S. Insaf]

Reply to uncle’s petition by April 29, high court tells Syedna
TIMES OF INDIA TNN | Apr 8, 2014, 11.43 PM IST
MUMBAI: The HC has posted to April 29 the hearing in a suit filed by the recently ordained Syedna's uncle, Khuzema Qutbuddin, to declare him the Dawoodi Bohras' religious head.

On Tuesday, Justice Gautam Patel before whom the matter came for hearing also offered to recuse if the parties have objection. He said he personally knew two Bohras. After he spelt their names, the parties said they have no objection to him hearing the matter. Justice Kathawalla had recused himself from the matter on Monday as he had appeared for the late Syedna in an ex-communication case.

Qutbuddin's advocate Ravi Kadam said Syedna Muffaddal Saifuddin had sought two weeks to reply to his uncle's plea for ad interim relief. Qutbuddin wants access to documents relating to the community and restraint on the Saifuddin from acting as the spiritual head. Saifuddin's advocate Janak Dwarkadas said "it is not a matter for ad interim relief", as more time is required to go through the "774-page plea". Kadam said his client wants "certain access and disclosure".
Justice Patel granted Saifuddin time to file a "limited" reply opposing ad interim relief to his uncle.

[Fatema MN]

Reply to uncle’s petition by April 29, high court tells Syedna:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 463462.cms

Bombay High Court to hear Syedna successor case on April 29:
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-b ... 29-1976397

[true_bohra]

What actually happened in the London Hospital :
Actually Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tried to say NURSE and poor Mufaddal bhaisaab heard it wrongly as NASS

watsup msg.

Shame on you for circulating this. It really pains that you are mocking a person who lives in hearts of many. Where are the people who busy defending KQ and now when someone is mocking Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, they have moved away...

[monginis]

What actually happened in the London Hospital :
Actually Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tried to say NURSE and poor Mufaddal bhaisaab heard it wrongly as NASS

watsup msg.

Shame on you for circulating this. It really pains that you are mocking a person who lives in hearts of many. Where are the people who busy defending KQ and now when someone is mocking Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, they have moved away...

how is SMB mocked in this message? joke is on MS and his stupidity and his followers who really think any NASS is done on MS.

[humanbeing]

Shame on you for circulating this. It really pains that you are mocking a person who lives in hearts of many. Where are the people who busy defending KQ and now when someone is mocking Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, they have moved away...

The mockery of SMB’s condition and people faith was at display by kothar Inc, how he was paraded and even after SMB’s sad demise, how they turned the event into a carnival !

[maddy]

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[Fatema MN]

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Dear mumineen bhaiyo ane behno, this is a classic example of how the truth is twisted and misrepresented to the gullible people who believe every word that is uttered by the kothar and their amils!

The judge recused himself..... is translated to
The judge refused the case!!!

recused = to withdraw from a position of judging so as to avoid any semblance of partiality or bias.
refuse = decline.

[monginis]

case is not dismissed it is just postponed till 29th April, but these April fools thought case is rejected.

[Akhtiar Wahid]

these kothari goons and bottom hard sucked die hard bohras are making all these rhyming and melodious Slogans for Muffadal saab. Don't they realize they look like stupid fools, what will they get out of all this naarey baazi!

[way2go]

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Dear mumineen bhaiyo ane behno, this is a classic example of how the truth is twisted and misrepresented to the gullible people who believe every word that is uttered by the kothar and their amils!

The judge recused himself..... is translated to
The judge refused the case!!!

recused = to withdraw from a position of judging so as to avoid any semblance of partiality or bias.
refuse = decline.

Fatemaben.... Not just gullible but really stupid since they don't know the difference between recuse and refuse. But then, what can one expect from ones who follows a person who does not even know what 'fuwarra' means in english!!!!!

[murtaza2152]

Why u all jump to conclusion ?
This audio is recorded by any Tom Dick Harry not by Al Vazarat , its not official audio , have some brain in your head and then react to situation.

All world knows the difference of Recuse and Refuse.
So be patient , haq will prevail.

[monginis]

Dear mumineen bhaiyo ane behno, this is a classic example of how the truth is twisted and misrepresented to the gullible people who believe every word that is uttered by the kothar and their amils!

The judge recused himself..... is translated to
The judge refused the case!!!

recused = to withdraw from a position of judging so as to avoid any semblance of partiality or bias.
refuse = decline.

Fatemaben.... Not just gullible but really stupid since they don't know the difference between recuse and refuse. But then, what can one expect from ones who follows a person who does not even know what 'fuwarra' means in english!!!!!

For me lack of English fluency is not a flaw in itself, after all, being a Muslim leader, fluency in Arabic, which matters, but lack of sensitivity in Islamic leader is unforgivable.

[humanbeing]

Interesting Read

[humanbeing]

Interesting !

Hoon adna mumin, Maula Mufaddal ne 53 dai manoo choo. Maula ni 100 mi Milad Mubarak par official endorse thayeli aa kitaab Mudar Bhayi Patherya lakhi ne Dawoodi Bohra Mailing List par baddha ne mokli hati. Mojizaa no 53 padhi ne confuse thayi gayo !!

Moula's Mojeza- ( 53 )
Following interview of Mohammedbhai Calcuttawala, Calcutta, by Mudar Patherya

It was March 2004 and one morning I dreamt that I was in the hazrat of Aqa Maula waiting for qadambosi. When my turn came and I submitted my hand, I was surprised to find that instead of accepting my obeisance, he said: “Tari qadambosi ni niyat chey to tu Syedi Mazoon Saheb (then in Kolkata for Ashara Mubaraka) ni qadambosi kar.” This was amazing: it had been more than three weeks and I had hardly gone in the hazrat of Syedi Mazoon Saheb. Immediately, I went hurriedly to Syedi Mazoon Saheb aney aap maro salaam qabul keedho!

Copy ends

http://hikmaah.com/download%5CA_CENTURY ... ATNESS.pdf
http://www.docin.com/p-438609269.html

[Mazakyo]

Why u all jump to conclusion ?
This audio is recorded by any Tom Dick Harry not by Al Vazarat , its not official audio , have some brain in your head and then react to situation.

All world knows the difference of Recuse and Refuse.
So be patient , haq will prevail.

Money will prevail mere dost !!

[voice]

Great effort to bring these eye opener, valuable observations. Every Bohra must go through these. Thanks GM bhai.

[Maqbool]

Why u all jump to conclusion ?
This audio is recorded by any Tom Dick Harry not by Al Vazarat , its not official audio , have some brain in your head and then react to situation.

All world knows the difference of Recuse and Refuse.
So be patient , haq will prevail.

You are really Gulam. Have you ever seen at the time of fooling the gullible vazarat has sent official messages. After so much has come in to open and you ask such a silly things.

[silvertongue]

No matter who wins the case. Mufaddalis will follow MS whatsoever while a few who might think out of the box will join SKQ but they will be less in numbers. If MS wins (which can be possible by altering proofs) he will totally excommunicate SKQ and his followers and continue his money collection schemes. if SKQ wins, the Dawat properties will be under his rule. What will MS followers gona do that time will only tell.

[humanbeing]

Whoever wins or looses, they will create their own set of properties ! bohras on both sides will continue to be fleeced ! while the one on the fence will enjoy the show and avail the services !

[true_bohra]

No matter who wins the case. Mufaddalis will follow MS whatsoever while a few who might think out of the box will join SKQ but they will be less in numbers. If MS wins (which can be possible by altering proofs) he will totally excommunicate SKQ and his followers and continue his money collection schemes. if SKQ wins, the Dawat properties will be under his rule. What will MS followers gona do that time will only tell.

Is it a compulsary condition that whatever prrofs given by Syedna TUS are altered and fake and the proof given by kq is real and true.