Journey of spirit

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tahir
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Journey of spirit

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Unread post by tahir » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:33 am


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Re: Journey of spirit

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Unread post by porus » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:16 pm

From the referred article:

"I have never had a single subject who was met by a major religious figure [after he dies]. Still, the loving essence of the great teachers from earth is within the personal guides who are assigned to us."

It is so nice for Mr Michael Newton to confirm we will have all our guides when we die. Bohras have been saying that for centuries. We will all be met by our Imams abd Dais, who of course, have essence of prophets within them.

Is Mr Newton going to offer us proof for his assertions or are we to accept those on faith. Likely candidate for the next Dai?

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Re: Journey of spirit

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Unread post by tahir » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:33 pm

One must not forget that he is talking about a spiritual guide and not an ambitious charlatan.. ;)

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Re: Journey of spirit

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Unread post by tahir » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:46 pm

Faith is a factor of maturity and choice and NOT birth. What bohras fondly call 'faith' (unshaken belief) is actually a lifetime of conditioning which is meticulously disguised and packaged to look like faith.

It is said that the Guru (guide) appears in your life (or after it) if and when you need him/her. There is no way that you are born with a master. Infact, this is what which sets humans apart from animals - the conscience to 'find' the right guide.

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Re: Journey of spirit

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Unread post by Average Bohra » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:15 am

Originally posted by tahir:
What bohras fondly call 'faith' (unshaken belief) is actually a lifetime of conditioning which is meticulously disguised and packaged to look like faith.
True, but this phenomenon is not unique to Bohras; it is a a modi operandi for religion in general.

Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organisation be formed to lead or to coerce people along any particular path. ~ Jiddu Krishnamurti