Got Very Sad From Dai's Work

[master.b00t]

Dil ma ghano afsos ane dard chhe haal na apna dai nu kaam joy ne. chhela 25-30 varas ma apane ghanu gumavel chhe. internal gumavelu chhe. dharm no meanning matra paiso ane enjoyment nathi. maula ane tene follow karwa wala internal garib thai ne rahi gaya chhe. te pote to rikt thai gaya chhe sathe bija ne pan e internal garibi ,riktata aapwa mage chhe.
maula ane ena manva wala ni aa khushi ane samruddhi matra uparchhallo mukhoto chhe. varso pehla apana pase je thodu ghanu pan internal hatu te pan chhinvi lidhu chhe."ek ni life ni, bija upar sidhi asar thai chhe". bija ni life ma pan khubaj gambhir ane serious, na bharpayee thai sake tevi nuksani kari chhe. bohra quom ne internal niche lai jawa ma kai pan baki nathi rakhu. taamsi jaman jamwanu ,popat ni jem bandagi ghani kari chhe evo man ma wahem rakhwanu dharam karam ghanuj kariye chhiye evi juthi ummid rakhwani ane ,ane dhandho rozgaar karvano aavi dayniya haalat apani banavi didhi chhe. internal progress e life no oxygen chhe. paisa thoda ochha male vadhare male e badhu chale, pan jyare internal oxygen na male to life kai nathi , maula e internal oxygen ni nali dabaveli raakhi chhe, janta ajanta dabaveli chhe jethi bohri quom ni life matra yantra jevi , matra machine thai ne rahi jaay. paisa , sagvadata ane enjoy ment ma aa badhu chhupay jai chhe. dharm na intrernal values ne badalwa ane khatm karwa na temaj puri bohri quom ni internal oxygen ni nali bandh kari deva na teo ghana mota jimmewaar chhe.

[jannatul baqi]

there is no need to go under depression,bohras have lost nothing infact have gain lots of barakaat in era of syedna saheb,we have reached many milestone in this last 50 years.unlike muslims we have not lost dignity,our culture is most stabilize and diciplined compare to any religion in the world.what we have lost is bunch of proggys but i dont count it as a lost because they dont even want to follow islaam,which is clear from there post on this forum.

we have bulit lot many mosques and zareeh and we really have grace of imam and happiness of ahlul bayt.

[jannatul baqi]

I know proggys will come up with lot many counter rebuttles but hey who cares about munafiqun.

[Regal]

jb obviously you care thats why you come to this forum

do you also believe that because we call ourself "momins' we are definitely momins?

[aziz]

from our msgs you can judge we dawoodi bohras are not with you and never will be as long as you abuse the haq na saheb 52 nd dail mutlaq,and you can never be moomin or a dawoodi bohra if syedna does not accept you as his follower. the further proof is that moomineen are followers of moula ali sa and you call his usurpers hazrats

[Al Zulfiqar]

there is no need to go under depression,bohras have lost nothing

yes, except their dignity, freedom and wallets. they have lost their domination in all their traditional fields of business in every city around the world wherever they reside.

infact have gain lots of barakaat in era of syedna saheb,we have reached many milestone in this last 50 years.

great milestones like total slavishness to kothar, doing sajda to dai and shamelessly singing about it, paying up newly innovated taxes and fees which have no basis in islam or even our own deen, celebrating the murder of wild animals at the hands of the dai in the name of sport, watching movies of his travels and photo-ops with corrupt politicians who are bribed to appear inside the markaz/masjid, confirming like fools and zombies to a rigid uniform enforced to reduce bohras to mindless idiots, having lavish tamashas to 'celebrate' ashura and indulging in feeding frenzies and orgies of bacchanalian proportions, spreading hatred against each and every religion and fellow muslims, the list goes on...

unlike muslims we have not lost dignity,our culture is most stabilize and diciplined compare to any religion in the world.

read as - "a community of fools and slaves terrorised by mafia thugs who control every aspect of their lives and have reduced them to an impotent state of hermaphroditism".

[Al Zulfiqar]

what we have lost is bunch of proggys but i dont count it as a lost because they dont even want to follow islaam,which is clear from there post on this forum.

absolutely right! the correct islam is doing sajda to human beings, singing paeans in their honor, surrendering your dignity and mortgaging your self-respect to curry favors, looting and humiliating your followers and living a life of ayyashi and indolence at their expense, dedicating your supplications, rozas, namaz and tilawat to a frail and mortal lowly soul called dai, uttering threats and laanats against those who oppose all this and persecuting them, setting up a class system by selling bogus titles and discriminating against the poor.

we have bulit lot many mosques and zareeh and we really have grace of imam and happiness of ahlul bayt.

mosques built with community money and expropriated by the syedna, who with his evil family enjoys its incomes and refuses to divulge any accounts, evades taxes and does money laundering on a vast scale; zareehs which provide no succour to any poor bohra, neither spiritual nor material and is against the principles of islam of avoiding ostentation and extravagance, and in complete contradiction to the austere lives of the martyrs buried behind these gilded cages. happiness of hidden imam? an imam in whom the ex-syedna himself did not believe and declared it as a myth? happiness of ahlul bayt who gave their lives for islam, watching all this abuse with great joy??

you are a shameless kafir, who knows no decency or religion. your morals and your language are full of filth.

[broadminded]

great analysis bro..agree 110%

[incredible]

you are a shameless kafir, who knows no decency or religion. your morals and your language are full of filth.

as i said kutte bhoke hazaar hathi chale apni chaal

[jannatul baqi]

jb obviously you care thats why you come to this forum

do you also believe that because we call ourself "momins' we are definitely momins?

define momeen

[Safiuddin]

Ah I see the demasculated incredible has returned - apparently her show of
"please de-register me" was just a farce. By the way, have you looked up the meaning of "incredible"?

[aziz]

from the pics posted of the progs conference its them who look like are great depression ,as for us dawoodi bohras we have our moula and everything we do is for him if that hurts you too bad

[master.b00t]

azizbhai , ek pagal ke pichhe sabhi pagal ho yeh kaha ki rit he. pls see maula face and eyes , looks like MASTER FOOL person , his face reading absolutely shows ki unhe bhi pata nahi ki main kaha ja raha hu ? aur itne logo ko galat le jane ki jimmewaari , nuksaani ka koi andaaz ?

[master.b00t]

me reformist nahi hu. i love also maula as our other bohri persons. but wo jaha baithe he, aur jo bhi kar rahe he uska importace bahot zyada he. mass level par asar hota he. pan teo pase je hoy tej bahar aave , maula ni film joy, wah wah kidhi , sajdao bajaywa, namaz ma pan wah wah kidhi , dhada dhad matam kidhu, ane jaman mate ghasi gaya , su maula pase aa siway biju kai chhe ? " kuwa ma hoy to aweda ma aawe"

[Al Zulfiqar]

Ah I see the demasculated incredible has returned - apparently her show of
"please de-register me" was just a farce. By the way, have you looked up the meaning of "incredible"?

safiuddin,

incredible has been hypnotised by the popularity of this forum. he cannot keep away. all the time he wastes here is diverted from the maatam he is supposed to be doing 24/7 alongwith the sajdas to his dai.

even after a resounding kick in his pants, the shameless kafir comes back!

[Regal]

from our msgs you can judge we dawoodi bohras are not with you and never will be as long as you abuse the haq na saheb 52 nd dail mutlaq,and you can never be moomin or a dawoodi bohra if syedna does not accept you as his follower. the further proof is that moomineen are followers of moula ali sa and you call his usurpers hazrats

again ur making the same mistake. calling someone haq na sahib doesnot make him haq na sahib. "if syedna doesnot accept you as his follower" LOL do you really believe that? what if the hidden imam accepts me as his follower? who cares then abt whether syedna accepts or not? what if Allah accepts me as his follower? can syedna even try to do anything against that?

syedna is just supposed to be a puppet right? he is the face of the hidden imam, not the imam that controls us. so why do we want to get fida on dai and not the imam? if u want to do shaksiyat-parasty (person-worship) atleast do it right.

momineen are not followers of maula ali a.s. you've been conditioned to believe that. maula ali a.s has nothing to do with being a momin. lol do you believe that only sympethisiers of Ali a.s will go to heaven? cuz all momin will go to heaven right? where did you elarn that from?

define momeen

theres a famous anecdote which gives a quite good picture on this. it goes something like this...A king wants to know the difference b/w a mussalmaan and a momin. so he goes far and wide and asks every theologian and every religious jurist of renown he could find. but all their answers do not satisfy him. he is on the point of madness because his quest to find this answer was leading nowhere. then one day he encounters an old sage who is meditating. the king asks him abt the difference b/w momin and a muslim. the sage replies that "it is simple. mussalmaan wo hai jo Allah KO manta hai, aur momin wo hai jo Allah KI manta hai"


at one point you will realise that religion ( and our whole life) is about Allah ONLY, not humans like Prophet Muhammad pbuh, hazrat Ali a.s or the 52th or 27th dai. they have their place but it is nothing compared to the beauty of Allah. these humans were His creations anyways so the real praise is only for Allah. why do we want to seek the favour of mere creation such as Hz Ali a.s or dai, when you can just as easily seek the Creator?

[profastian]

from our msgs you can judge we dawoodi bohras are not with you and never will be as long as you abuse the haq na saheb 52 nd dail mutlaq,and you can never be moomin or a dawoodi bohra if syedna does not accept you as his follower. the further proof is that moomineen are followers of moula ali sa and you call his usurpers hazrats

again ur making the same mistake. calling someone haq na sahib doesnot make him haq na sahib. "if syedna doesnot accept you as his follower" LOL do you really believe that? what if the hidden imam accepts me as his follower? who cares then abt whether syedna accepts or not? what if Allah accepts me as his follower? can syedna even try to do anything against that?

syedna is just supposed to be a puppet right? he is the face of the hidden imam, not the imam that controls us. so why do we want to get fida on dai and not the imam? if u want to do shaksiyat-parasty (person-worship) atleast do it right.

momineen are not followers of maula ali a.s. you've been conditioned to believe that. maula ali a.s has nothing to do with being a momin. lol do you believe that only sympethisiers of Ali a.s will go to heaven? cuz all momin will go to heaven right? where did you elarn that from?

define momeen

theres a famous anecdote which gives a quite good picture on this. it goes something like this...A king wants to know the difference b/w a mussalmaan and a momin. so he goes far and wide and asks every theologian and every religious jurist of renown he could find. but all their answers do not satisfy him. he is on the point of madness because his quest to find this answer was leading nowhere. then one day he encounters an old sage who is meditating. the king asks him abt the difference b/w momin and a muslim. the sage replies that "it is simple. mussalmaan wo hai jo Allah KO manta hai, aur momin wo hai jo Allah KI manta hai"


at one point you will realise that religion ( and our whole life) is about Allah ONLY, not humans like Prophet Muhammad pbuh, hazrat Ali a.s or the 52th or 27th dai. they have their place but it is nothing compared to the beauty of Allah. these humans were His creations anyways so the real praise is only for Allah. why do we want to seek the favour of mere creation such as Hz Ali a.s or dai, when you can just as easily seek the Creator?

The biggest hole in your argument is "How do you know there is a God?". Just answer this to make your argument have any credence.

[Regal]

omg profastian, did i not have this same argument with you a while back where you kept going in circles. dont go off topic, the existence or non existance of God is not part of my argument here, it is a presumption.

how do i know there is a God?

1) Quran, the everlasting miracle, which cannot have been written by any man, proves the existence of God.

[SBM]

Pro
How do you know there is GOD

see the following
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