Syedna is a star created by Imam Hussain

[Hussain_KSA]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

[guy_sam2005]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

When u know the routine and it bores u ,why bothered going?n the waaz was over at 1,,,,

[labbaikyaHussain]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

you shud have invested your time listening sunni khutba on friday instead of sitting in bohra mosque.

[profastian]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

For any sane listener, the waaz was a gem and one of the best ever....
And btw, it was anything but routine...
Only a true DAI of the Imam can possess such ilm... No other proof of him being the DAI is required...

[labbaikyaHussain]

btw it is better for DAI to repeat same stuff rather then innovating new things in islaam like the sunni ulema do to keep there listener bonded. some times they make up stories to keep their listener interested in khutbas.

[like_minded]

For any sane listener, the waaz was a gem and one of the best ever....
And btw, it was anything but routine...
Only a true DAI of the Imam can possess such ilm... No other proof of him being the DAI is required...

Labbu

You make me laugh!!!!



btw it is better for DAI to repeat same stuff rather then innovating new things in islaam like the sunni ulema do to keep there listener bonded. some times they make up stories to keep their listener interested in khutbas.

Labbu

Now.... You are making me laugh aloud.... hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[Maqbool]

even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley,

Some body over heard in the vaez of 100 mi milad, Aqamoula asking Dr. Moizbhaisaheb " Aje konu milad che."

This joke SMS is around Bohra circle

[labbaikyaHussain]

For any sane listener, the waaz was a gem and one of the best ever....
And btw, it was anything but routine...
Only a true DAI of the Imam can possess such ilm... No other proof of him being the DAI is required...

Labbu

You make me laugh!!!!



btw it is better for DAI to repeat same stuff rather then innovating new things in islaam like the sunni ulema do to keep there listener bonded. some times they make up stories to keep their listener interested in khutbas.

Labbu

Now.... You are making me laugh aloud.... hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

every dog has a day to laugh

[like_minded]

Labbu

Actually, thats what Syedna and his goon family must be doing everyday after making monkeys out of followers like you, day in and day out! "Laugh"

[murtaza2152]

@Reformists,
In one thread you are wishing Aqa Mola tus and here making fun of his bayan mubarak, making fun of your Dail Mutlaq Hujjat of Imam,

Shame on you all disgusting people!!
May God curse all Munfiqins

[Gulf]

husain bhai jaman kivu hatu? Bad hajmi thay gae etle aje kaam ni raja kahri kari ne thread post karo chho.
Ghanu sambhlo chho to dil ne saaf rakho pet b saaf rehse.
With alll due respects

Wassalaam

[Hussain_KSA]

Gulf

I am in Saudi Arabia and being a reformist I don't attend any functions in mainstream jamat. So where is question of "Jaman"? However, I do watch the direct or indirect relay of Waez by Syedna saheb regularly. Even those relay which sometimes is not available for people leaving out of India.

My heart is clean and I did not write anything wrong. By the way it seems that you did not get chance to attend the milad in Mumbai like brother AQS and others.

Syedna Burhanuddin saheb ni miyawi milad nu jashn tame ane sagla mumineen ne mubarak ane muhanna thai.

[Hussain_KSA]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

you shud have invested your time listening sunni khutba on friday instead of sitting in bohra mosque.

Exactly this is what I did. I was in Makkah Mukarrama in Haram shareef listening the Khutba of Sunni Imam. FYI , there is no facility of bohra mosque in Jeddah or Makkah, secondly they don't bother for Friday prayer. However at the same time mainstream bohras where gathered in Ezzy makan of Makkah to watch Syedna Saheb's Bayaan mubarak. I watched the recorded one later after returning from Makkah.

[Hussain_KSA]

@Reformists,
In one thread you are wishing Aqa Mola tus and here making fun of his bayan mubarak, making fun of your Dail Mutlaq Hujjat of Imam,

Shame on you all disgusting people!!
May God curse all Munfiqins

When we are wishing Syedna saheb it is from our heart. I even published an advertisement in local news papers (published in india on 25th of March) wishing him happy brithday. People who knows me personally can confim it. I just qouted his bayan and where did I make fun of his bayan?

[Hussain_KSA]

There is news that four reformist has gone back to mainstream jamat yesterday. One couple has applied for re admission in mainstrim jamat of another city, hower usual beaurocrasy is giving them hard time. I wish if the local jamat and Amil and some influential chamchas knows their limits, most of the problem would be solved without any delay.

[Muslim First]

Br H_K posted

When we are wishing Syedna saheb it is from our heart. I even published an advertisement in local news papers (published in india on 25th of March) wishing him happy brithday.

Do you think it was good use of God given wealth?

What did you get from it?

How many hungry mouth it would have fed?

May Allah give you Barakat for that ad or shorat or acceptance you were seeking.

Wasalaam

[labbaikyaHussain]

Br H_K posted

When we are wishing Syedna saheb it is from our heart. I even published an advertisement in local news papers (published in india on 25th of March) wishing him happy brithday.

Do you think it was good use of God given wealth?

What did you get from it?

How many hungry mouth it would have fed?

May Allah give you Barakat for that ad or shorat or acceptance you were seeking.

Wasalaam

what do u get by living life borrowed from machines?


why dont u stop taking support of life saving machines and expensive medicines i am sure that money will feed lot many people in 3rd world countries....just a suggestion to munafiq first

[porus]

what do u get by living life borrowed from machines?

why dont u stop taking support of life saving machines and expensive medicines i am sure that money will feed lot many people in 3rd world countries....just a suggestion to munafiq first

I find this sort of cruel insensitivity to personal suffering astonishing and thoroughly abhorrent.

I guarantee that despite your chosen name on this board which means "In obedience to Husain, I have come", Husain will disown you. As far as Sayedna is concerned, he will consider you a disgrace and would not want you to be his follower.

[labbaikyaHussain]

what do u get by living life borrowed from machines?

why dont u stop taking support of life saving machines and expensive medicines i am sure that money will feed lot many people in 3rd world countries....just a suggestion to munafiq first

I find this sort of insensitivity to personal suffering astonishing and thoroughly abhorrent.

I guarantee that despite your chosen name on this board which means "In obedience to Husain, I have come", Husain will disown you. As far as Sayedna is concerned, he will consider you a disgrace and would not want you to be his follower.

gaurantee of a person who thinks sadiq Ali sahab was kafir does not matters to any sane momeein.

it does not matters to me what a fanatic thinks about me and my username.

if munafiq first is so much concerned about the hungry people then he must follow what i have suggested.

[anajmi]

When we are wishing Syedna saheb it is from our heart. I even published an advertisement in local news papers (published in india on 25th of March) wishing him happy brithday.

This is precisely the kind of act that gives the Syedna a free hand to do as he pleases. On the other thread, brother Insaf posts an account of how Syedna and his family are looting the bohras and then on another thread all reformists are wishing the Syedna a healthy and prosperous life from their hearts. There is a good saying back home about the state of a person who is "do (two) kashti mein sawaar"!!

[labbaikyaHussain]

When we are wishing Syedna saheb it is from our heart. I even published an advertisement in local news papers (published in india on 25th of March) wishing him happy brithday.

This is precisely the kind of act that gives the Syedna a free hand to do as he pleases. On the other thread, brother Insaf posts an account of how Syedna and his family are looting the bohras and then on another thread all reformists are wishing the Syedna a healthy and prosperous life from their hearts. There is a good saying back home about the state of a person who is "do (two) kashti mein sawaar"!!

agreed

"hypocrite" in arabic we can say "munafiq" is the word

[anajmi]

As far as Sayedna is concerned, he will consider you a disgrace and would not want you to be his follower.

Seriously? The same Syedna who got hammered for cursing the Sahabas of the prophet?

[profastian]

I find this sort of insensitivity to personal suffering astonishing and thoroughly abhorrent.

I guarantee that despite your chosen name on this board which means "In obedience to Husain, I have come", Husain will disown you. As far as Sayedna is concerned, he will consider you a disgrace and would not want you to be his follower.

gaurantee of a person who thinks sadiq Ali sahab was kafir does not matters to any sane momeein.

it does not matters to me what a fanatic thinks about me and my username.

if munafiq first is so much concerned about the hungry people then he must follow what i have suggested.

He is not a fanatic. The precise word is 'Ahmak'

[murtaza2152]

Firstly give my Answer ,!!
about Syedna,,,

And I will surely present the section from the book
,Gimme Some time....,
Do u have dat Book??


And Do you Believe In Syedna Qazi Noman, In what he has written..?

[porus]

Firstly give my Answer ,!!
about Syedna,,,

And I will surely present the section from the book
,Gimme Some time....,
Do u have dat Book??


And Do you Believe In Syedna Qazi Noman, In what he has written..?

I have given my answer. If Sayedna demands qadam bosi, then he is a mushrik unless you can quote the Quran where Allah allows Muslims, that is those who accepted Islam after the revelation of the Quran, to do sajda to human beings.

My beliefs are not at issue. Quran is the criterion by which all of us ought to judge whether Qazi Noman's writings are acceptable or not.

I have read parts of Himma and I have also read extensive commentaries on that work. I would like you to identify and justify how Qazi Noman created his doctrine of sajda to other than Allah from the Quran.

So, we will wait for your input of the relevant portion of that book.

[progpigs]

Reformists r MUSHRIQ... i have logical proofs!!

[confused_mumin]

Hello every1,
M sure u all can make out from id as to who i m.
A confused mumin...or abde in ur words....well yes its nice 2 see tht finally d celebrations have come to an end & finally life will b peaceful again..yes'day i did listen to moula's waaz n was....... happy to know tht Rs.100 crore have been given for upliftment of mumineen throughout d world..lets hope tht its used n distributed in d rite way..yes i was disturbed a lot over so much money being
spent for d celebrations but now tht its over i hope tht d respective jamaats will work on d development of their own people...

[neutralbohri]

As usual, the salgirah waaz was a lengthy one that made him to pause two times; even before 11.30 mumbai time, he stopped saying, namaz padhi ley, but came may be from washroom to continue for one hour more and paused again (God knows whether went to pray) while the full Saifee hall attendees were sitting forgetting that Friday prayers are important to be done at proper time.

He himself referred him to be a star created by Imam Husain (ek Tara toh tamhara saamney chey). As usual, did two times shahadat (it is becoming like saying, thanking you,yours faithfully in the letter).

He is said to be having ghaib imam and know all what imams and dais did before. As all of the amils used to say that ashura happened on Friday and he said the same thing today. For sure,he is mistaken, as if we see the calendar in our saheefa, that gives date of each month for the past and future years, it occured on Tuesday (if you have saheefa go and check it out when 10th muharram occured in 61 H.

For any sane listener, the waaz was a gem and one of the best ever....
And btw, it was anything but routine...
Only a true DAI of the Imam can possess such ilm... No other proof of him being the DAI is required...

One of the reasons I have stopped going to the waaz and these type of saalgirah celebrations is because of the repetitive nature of the content. There are only the following that is repeated again and again and again.
1. Self Praise - and more self praise at the drop of a hat.....
2. Showing us how worthless we are without Mola and the kothar...or in other words how lucky and blessed we are to have the roohani bawa guiding us...... (Ok i agree but what is the point in repeating the same thing 20 times in a waaz of 60 minutes). I cant find any other example where the family members of a great leader of this world has indulged in such exorbitant self praise. If somebody is great, people will automatically know....there is no example of self praise like this, neither inside our community and nor outside. Do you know who indulges in self praise, it is the people who no body else praises.
3. Shahadat of Imam Hussain (RA) . - No doubt I am a ardent follower and believer in Imam Hussain......but they make a mockery of the shahadat by just repeating it over and over and over in the name of taking sawab.... if you really want to take sawab there are thousands of anecdotes from the life of Mola Ali, Imam Hussain, and all of Panjatan that demonstrate how you should live your life......Cleverly only those anecdotes are narrated which they can use for their own benefits......
sometimes I think they can twist/fabricate any stories or anecdote from the life of the panjatan to prove that they are right.

[neutralbohri]

Reformists r MUSHRIQ... i have logical proofs!!

Prove it...I am waiting. I have not seen logic in any of the abde's arguments till date in the last 3 years that I have spent on this forum.

All I can listen to is abuses and "why dont you leave if you are not happy with the community's functioning"

[profastian]

One of the reasons I have stopped going to the waaz and these type of saalgirah celebrations is because of the repetitive nature of the content. There are only the following that is repeated again and again and again.
1. Self Praise - and more self praise at the drop of a hat.....
Name one instance. All the praise is for all the Daut(Syedna included). Name a single instance where Syedna has attributed any praise to himself only.
2. Showing us how worthless we are without Mola and the kothar...or in other words how lucky and blessed we are to have the roohani bawa guiding us...... (Ok i agree but what is the point in repeating the same thing 20 times in a waaz of 60 minutes). I cant find any other example where the family members of a great leader of this world has indulged in such exorbitant self praise. If somebody is great, people will automatically know....there is no example of self praise like this, neither inside our community and nor outside. Do you know who indulges in self praise, it is the people who no body else praises.
I haven't been to a single Waaz where kothar are even mentioned. And as for the repetition of the same thing and of a 20 minute waaz stretched to 60, listen closely. Not one bayan is the same as the other. There is no repetition at all expect for the Shahadat bayan.As for us being worthless, which religious leader says that you are my children. Which religious says that i have a wish to hug you all? This doesn't show any worthlessness.
3. Shahadat of Imam Hussain (RA) . - No doubt I am a ardent follower and believer in Imam Hussain......but they make a mockery of the shahadat by just repeating it over and over and over in the name of taking sawab.... if you really want to take sawab there are thousands of anecdotes from the life of Mola Ali, Imam Hussain, and all of Panjatan that demonstrate how you should live your life......Cleverly only those anecdotes are narrated which they can use for their own benefits......
sometimes I think they can twist/fabricate any stories or anecdote from the life of the panjatan to prove that they are right.
Don't you pray 5 times a day every day. Is that repetition? The shahdat bayan of Imam Hussain is Ibadat too, so no question of repetition.