recent fraud in misissauga jamaat? money's transferred

[abde sayedna]

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this is what our moula does for us

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u all must be knowing mr dahodwala who gave 52 crore in safiee haspital i will tel u how he earned it
he made a barcoding software a wanted sell for some little amt so he did arazz in moula but moula denied the he did arazz for 2 3 times but reply was same he too was wondering what in this than suddenly the demand for that software increased n with razaa of moula he sold the software n i dont know how much amt he n today also he is recieving so much in royalty

this all was said by him in ashara mudarak
that faith prompted him to araaz such huge amt

[SBM]

What a piece of crock in last posting
Dahodwala for a long time did not even attended the Majalis and he was not very active with Jamaat. His brother who lives some where in Florida does not participate in Bohra Jamaat.
Br MF who lives in Boston can shed some light on it

[abde sayedna]

u can never ever digest all these stuff because of level of adawat for moula u r having

[mburhan]

abde sayedna:

posting your myths about Dahodwalla's donation on numerous other posts and missives on this site do not make it a truth. You appear to believe in the adage that "if one flings so much sh,,t on a wall, some of it will definitely stick.... but it still remain sh..t"

[Al Zulfiqar]

Originally posted by abde sayedna:
what type of achievment u wnt to know abt on religious level financial level in every level sky has been touched see the masjid of our imam being developed at the expense of crores of rupees schools hospital and masjid all over the world and other utilities being developed

now look at ur self u all have been trying for ur movement since 40 yrs but u all have achieve nothing instead asking for donation on website its a shame on u

hope now u realise the achieve of our moula

himaar-e-syedna,

please name eve one school or college built by the syedna. as for hospital, there is only one, saifee hospital in bombay, which was built not for a humanitarian cause, but to enforce possession on a piece of land which the kothar has been trying to acquire by force since decades. the land never belonged to them and by threatening, bribing, begging and pleading, they finally manged to collect all the trust committee's signatures and before anyone could change their mind, the crooks at kothar quickly rushed through a project whereby they have killed several birds with one stone...

do u think we are all fools here? the kothar has promised the courts not to discriminate at the hospital between reformists and the abde's like yrself. yet they are doing it. also they initially announced 6 free rooms for poor bohras with free treatment. even that is now conveniently ignored. saifee hospital is being used by rich arabs and bohras as a musafirkhana and many of the arabs are indulging in prostitution there, in which some of the nurses and ward boys are also involved.

this hospital has become mothing but a commercial and heartless den of greed, scandal and corruption. so many cases of friends i know have been spoiled but no one paid any attention to their complaints.

as for masjids, all the masjids built are with community money. show even one brick which the syedna has paid for from his own pocket. bring the accounts and then make tall claims.

stop lying and making false statements, talk with proof and give serious replies as u wish us to do, ya himaar.

atleast the reformists ASK for donations, yr syedna and his parasites loot and take by force from poor bohras, orphans and widows!!!!!!!!

[abde sayedna]

zulfikar niether u r adawat for sayedna will decrease nor our mohabbat for moula will decrease n we know well what r the achievement of our moula so u will not be able to prove anything by asking stupid question
why dont u reply th post that whether u all can appoint a dai or not
kindly please obliged by doing so

[like_minded]

Originally posted by abde sayedna:
zulfikar niether u r adawat for sayedna will decrease nor our mohabbat for moula will decrease n we know well what r the achievement of our moula so u will not be able to prove anything by asking stupid question
why dont u reply th post that whether u all can appoint a dai or not
kindly please obliged by doing so

Abde

You guys are brain-washed beyond repair.. which is why you guys cannot observe and accept the ground realities.

Which is why, when certain bitter questions are asked, you guys conveniently ignore and shift the focus of debate.

[like_minded]

n we know well what r the achievement of our moula

Abde syedna

What achievments are u talking about?? Building mosques and mosoleums?? Is that an achievement??

In the last 2-3 decades, If bohras have managed to pull it off financially, thats because of abundunt business opportunities, and basically the bohra community is into trading... so they ought to prosper as there is an overall development across the globe. But this simple logic is hard for blind-followers like you to imbibe.

[Al Zulfiqar]

JC, good effort...!!

btw, no one has so far thrown any further light on the issue of these rumours re: the money transfer..can anyone provide more details?

[accountability]

Ibrahim bhai saheb, son of Qaid Johar bhaisaheb was visiting canada, he was also collecting donation for kufa masjid, the drive was as usual very assertive.

Non of the shahzada has visited toronto or mississauga in recent past.

Regarding mississauga masjid, the fund drive is an ongoing process, One gentleman has helped local jamat to purchase the mississauga markaz, and he is also helping out for various other causes.

I dont know anything about the fund transfer.

[JC]

Al-Zulfikar,

I believe the name of that shahzada was ibrahim.

For a starter I would like to say that bohras and their bhagwan DO NOT built masjids or mosques but they squeeze 100 and spent 10 on the consutruction of masjids...!!!

why only for masjid in Kufa, they will take out money in any name or for any cause - who knows and who asks - the conclusion is all that money ends in burhani coffers.

The news is may be right - the money is gone ...!!! it was suppose to be ...!!! these shahzadas are these days crying for more and more money and that was the sole aim of this piglets visit to Canada - to squeeze money, one way or other.

The sheep and pujaris will come know (or they will realize) that money is no-money after 10 years when all their wishes of building a masjid in Mississauga will fail due to lack of funds - and these pujaris will keep on wondering - where did ALL that money vanished??!! Nobody will know that ibrahim got a house in Switzerland from his share.......!!!!!!!

[Al Zulfiqar]

JC,

i still have to verify with more certainty, whether all the money has vanished or most of it, but what u speculate will most probably turn out to be true as time passes.

the mississauga msjid will not be built for the next many many years, finally some huge benefactor will step in and offer to build the whole thing on his own, so automatically problem solved and this issue of a robber having come in and looted the money will be sewpt under the carpet and forgotten.

this i suppose is the story with bohras everywhere. a silent and oppressed majority, fearful to speak out and meekly submitting to all the tyranny and injustice. why? because no one supports each other. each one of us is content to watch from the sidelines, while the kothar shoots down each bohra individually like a sitting duck..!!

[Smart]

@abde
One thing you keep on carping about how the Syedna is the source of barkaat, how the bohras are rich and how the progressives have to go with begging bowls.

Now please try and answer this question:
How many Taheris are among the top hundred richest in the world? Or even in India?
If your answer is true no even one.

By your standards of values, are the religious leaders of the richest persons truer than the Syedna? Are they they source of greater barkat?
Are they truer than your Syedna?

I am sure you will answer the last question in the negative, then why do you continuously measure the truthfulness of a person / institution / movement in terms of how much money they have? Or why do you carp that so and so has become a road pati from crore pati?

Either your values are based on money or based on principles, you cannot apply different standards in different conditions.

Otherwise be prepared to be called a hypocrite!