Taziat....What is next?

[james]

nor it is my place to gossip about the business of others much less Dai Zaman TUS

Really James
That did not stop you from gossiping against SKQ did it

I haven't gossiped about the business activities of Khuzaima .

[ghulam muhammed]

bet your dementia is saying " Mars , Mars "

Better then saying "Ghanu Jeevo Ghanu Jeevo"

[SBM]

It seems James 0053 lives on some other planet.

I bet your dementia is saying " Mars , Mars "

No-- I bet he was saying PAAGAL KHANA PAAGAL KHANA

[M Taha]

james why did u lied?

and once that u have lied all your talks are invalid now.

you said no money was taken, but now we know money cover was taken in front of door in form of najwa and now they are asking to put fakhir rakam in golak.


THERE IS NO POINT TO TALK WITH THIS LIAR JAMES.

[M Taha]

Question is : There was no money taken in taziyat in any form? or was there some kind of loop hole to collect money?

First of all , money is not " taken " . It is given " voluntarily " by Mumineen who want to participate in said good deeds.

And yes , there was no one collecting najwa covers during taziyat ,[/quote]

Assalaam o Alaikum to all....
Taziyat ke waqt nazwa bhi diye hai aur salaam bhi kiye....jo bhi taziyat ke liye gaye thhe...unse gate par hee cover le liye thhe...jisne gate par cover nahi diye...unko ye instructions diye ki..."moula ne cover see salaam na karzo...moula na qadam ma najwa na cover muki dejo"....this is fact. kitne percent logo ne kiye...ye nahi bataa sakta....kya sabhi Taziyat ke liye gaye thhe ya qadambosi ke liye gaye thhe ??
Dubai mai 40 din tak jo jaman hue...usme bhi sabhi se individual jaman likhwaye....40 jaman ke 80 individually hoob pahle se hee aa gayi thhi...uske baad sabhi ke shop par jaakar bhi hoob likhwayi....aur masjid mai bhi counter lage thhe...jahaa regularly announce kar rahe thhe...moula na jaman ma fakhir hoob lakhawo....jab pahle se hee 40 jaman ka double fund aa gayaa thaa....phir sabhi se aur hoob lene ka kya matlab hai ?? just imagine kitna fund raise kiya hogaa....ye extra fund kahaa jaayega GOD knows..aur india mai bhi FMB ki thali 40 days se band thhi...ye 40 days ke bhi statement sabhi ko bheje hai....jaldi see jaldi FMB no balance amount jamaa karawo....kem ki thali thrusday see start thaee chhe....ye fund kahaa jaayega...jab 40 days FMB band tha....phir isme jo bhi montly amount fix hai...uske paise kyu le rahe hai ??[/quote]

Thank You bhai, for giving the true picture.

[Sujud]

Mr James
Could you please throw light on what kind of business that would be because it's real good money with very low investment of time

I don't know what kind of business nor it is my place to gossip about the business of others much less Dai Zaman TUS .

Mr James whenever I have questioned you have given very diplomatic and vague answers
1) first was abt voluntary najwas/ gifts which at multiple occasions have been shown to be not the case

2) second was when I had asked you abt 'is running around in said appropriate attire, being present physically and contributing money the only way of showing love to your wafaat dai' you conveniently left the thread

3) for tawil na bayaan u gave a very diplomatic reply which didn't make any more knowledgable than I was

4) yet again when u make a statement abt business held by the kothar u back out in the name of gossip, well how is it gossip when I know wat reliance/ birla/Steve jobs/ or my next door neighbor doing for a living. It just makes me aware abt world
I am not asking for their accounts. My idea of gossip was casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true

[zinger]

Question is : There was no money taken in taziyat in any form? or was there some kind of loop hole to collect money?

First of all , money is not " taken " . It is given " voluntarily " by Mumineen who want to participate in said good deeds.

And yes , there was no one collecting najwa covers during taziyat ,[/quote]

Assalaam o Alaikum to all....
Taziyat ke waqt nazwa bhi diye hai aur salaam bhi kiye....jo bhi taziyat ke liye gaye thhe...unse gate par hee cover le liye thhe...jisne gate par cover nahi diye...unko ye instructions diye ki..."moula ne cover see salaam na karzo...moula na qadam ma najwa na cover muki dejo"....this is fact. kitne percent logo ne kiye...ye nahi bataa sakta....kya sabhi Taziyat ke liye gaye thhe ya qadambosi ke liye gaye thhe ??
Dubai mai 40 din tak jo jaman hue...usme bhi sabhi se individual jaman likhwaye....40 jaman ke 80 individually hoob pahle se hee aa gayi thhi...uske baad sabhi ke shop par jaakar bhi hoob likhwayi....aur masjid mai bhi counter lage thhe...jahaa regularly announce kar rahe thhe...moula na jaman ma fakhir hoob lakhawo....jab pahle se hee 40 jaman ka double fund aa gayaa thaa....phir sabhi se aur hoob lene ka kya matlab hai ?? just imagine kitna fund raise kiya hogaa....ye extra fund kahaa jaayega GOD knows..aur india mai bhi FMB ki thali 40 days se band thhi...ye 40 days ke bhi statement sabhi ko bheje hai....jaldi see jaldi FMB no balance amount jamaa karawo....kem ki thali thrusday see start thaee chhe....ye fund kahaa jaayega...jab 40 days FMB band tha....phir isme jo bhi montly amount fix hai...uske paise kyu le rahe hai ??[/quote]


this is complete lies.

i have been for taaziyat and ziarat on numerous occasions. not even once has anyone stood at the gate and asked for money.

it is possible that this happened at a time when i was not there but no other jamat member has said this.

P.S. dont even bother asking me about Dubai

[zinger]

Question is : There was no money taken in taziyat in any form? or was there some kind of loop hole to collect money?

First of all , money is not " taken " . It is given " voluntarily " by Mumineen who want to participate in said good deeds.

And yes , there was no one collecting najwa covers during taziyat ,

Assalaam o Alaikum to all....
Taziyat ke waqt nazwa bhi diye hai aur salaam bhi kiye....jo bhi taziyat ke liye gaye thhe...unse gate par hee cover le liye thhe...jisne gate par cover nahi diye...unko ye instructions diye ki..."moula ne cover see salaam na karzo...moula na qadam ma najwa na cover muki dejo"....this is fact. kitne percent logo ne kiye...ye nahi bataa sakta....kya sabhi Taziyat ke liye gaye thhe ya qadambosi ke liye gaye thhe ??
Dubai mai 40 din tak jo jaman hue...usme bhi sabhi se individual jaman likhwaye....40 jaman ke 80 individually hoob pahle se hee aa gayi thhi...uske baad sabhi ke shop par jaakar bhi hoob likhwayi....aur masjid mai bhi counter lage thhe...jahaa regularly announce kar rahe thhe...moula na jaman ma fakhir hoob lakhawo....jab pahle se hee 40 jaman ka double fund aa gayaa thaa....phir sabhi se aur hoob lene ka kya matlab hai ?? just imagine kitna fund raise kiya hogaa....ye extra fund kahaa jaayega GOD knows..aur india mai bhi FMB ki thali 40 days se band thhi...ye 40 days ke bhi statement sabhi ko bheje hai....jaldi see jaldi FMB no balance amount jamaa karawo....kem ki thali thrusday see start thaee chhe....ye fund kahaa jaayega...jab 40 days FMB band tha....phir isme jo bhi montly amount fix hai...uske paise kyu le rahe hai ??[/quote]

Thank You bhai, for giving the true picture.[/quote]


for all we know, summer 123 is just another id of yours

[M Taha]

First of all , money is not " taken " . It is given " voluntarily " by Mumineen who want to participate in said good deeds.

And yes , there was no one collecting najwa covers during taziyat ,

Assalaam o Alaikum to all....
Taziyat ke waqt nazwa bhi diye hai aur salaam bhi kiye....jo bhi taziyat ke liye gaye thhe...unse gate par hee cover le liye thhe...jisne gate par cover nahi diye...unko ye instructions diye ki..."moula ne cover see salaam na karzo...moula na qadam ma najwa na cover muki dejo"....this is fact. kitne percent logo ne kiye...ye nahi bataa sakta....kya sabhi Taziyat ke liye gaye thhe ya qadambosi ke liye gaye thhe ??
Dubai mai 40 din tak jo jaman hue...usme bhi sabhi se individual jaman likhwaye....40 jaman ke 80 individually hoob pahle se hee aa gayi thhi...uske baad sabhi ke shop par jaakar bhi hoob likhwayi....aur masjid mai bhi counter lage thhe...jahaa regularly announce kar rahe thhe...moula na jaman ma fakhir hoob lakhawo....jab pahle se hee 40 jaman ka double fund aa gayaa thaa....phir sabhi se aur hoob lene ka kya matlab hai ?? just imagine kitna fund raise kiya hogaa....ye extra fund kahaa jaayega GOD knows..aur india mai bhi FMB ki thali 40 days se band thhi...ye 40 days ke bhi statement sabhi ko bheje hai....jaldi see jaldi FMB no balance amount jamaa karawo....kem ki thali thrusday see start thaee chhe....ye fund kahaa jaayega...jab 40 days FMB band tha....phir isme jo bhi montly amount fix hai...uske paise kyu le rahe hai ??

Thank You bhai, for giving the true picture.[/quote]


for all we know, summer 123 is just another id of yours [/quote]

and we all know you are an a** Ho**

[james]

you conveniently left the thread

Going through your posts , I see that I missed replying to one of your posts in why no one walks thread. It wasn't my intention to ignore your post in that thread. Frankly , the merging of threads make it a tad confusing . I will get back to that thread.

3) for tawil na bayaan u gave a very diplomatic reply which didn't make any more knowledgable than I was

You are looking at the wrong forum and platform to gain knowledge.I gave you the tartib ( steps ) of attaining knowledge . This tartib is not new in only this era but all Duat Mutlaqeen RA of the past have adopted the same direction in disseminating knowledge . If you are very sincere in your quest for knowledge , you can start by learning Daim ul Islam by enrolling yourself in one of the sabaqs . You will have to give time and effort for that . Good luck .

4) yet again when u make a statement abt business held by the kothar u back out in the name of gossip, well how is it gossip when I know wat reliance/ birla/Steve jobs/ or my next door neighbor doing for a living. It just makes me aware abt world
I am not asking for their accounts.

I didn't back out at all . If you read my answer , you will see " I don't know " in that . I gave you my reason for not striving to know the business interests of Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS . I am just not interested in that . Different strokes for different folks.

[anajmi]

I didn't back out at all . If you read my answer , you will see " I don't know " in that . I gave you my reason for not striving to know the business interests of Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS . I am just not interested in that . Different strokes for different folks.

You should consider this as homework. If you can find out the legitimate business of your Maula that makes him the millions that affords him the luxuries that he gifts himself and his family, most people on this forum will go home and back to kissing your Maula's feet. You will have achieved your objective.

[summer123]

There was no money taken in taziyat in any form? or was there some kind of loop hole to collect money?

First of all , money is not " taken " . It is given " voluntarily " by Mumineen who want to participate in said good deeds.
And yes , there was no one collecting najwa covers during taziyat ,
Assalaam o Alaikum bhai,
maine ye nahi kahaa ki forcefully cover le rahe they....lekin bahut se logo ne cover diye hai najwe ke...maine clear likha hai ki kitne % logo ne diye ye nahi bataa sakta....mai aapki baat maanta hu ki ...jisne bhi najwe ke cover voluntarily ya good deeds ke liye diye....kya taziyat ke waqt ye cover lena sahee hai ?? kya us waqt strictly ye announce nahi kar sakte thhe ki ye right time nahi hai...koi bhi najwa cover nahi lekar aaye ?? maire jo bhi friends gaye thhe sabhi ne wahaa najwa ke cover diye...ye bilkul right news hai....ho sakta hai unhone voluntarily ya good deeds ke liye diye ho....kya sogh ke waqt ye sahe amal hai ??

dubai ki jo news maine dee wo bilkul right hai....maine 40 days tak dekha hai specially saifee masjid dubai mai....wahaa masjid ke andar table lagaa hua tha collection ke liye...unko bilkul bhi masjid ki hurmat ka khayal nahi tha...jo bhi log wahaa sipara padh rahe hai unko disturbed hota hoga....lekin wo continuously loudly bolte rahte thhe...sayedna burhanuddin moula RA na jaman ma hoob aapo...hawe bas itna diwas rahee gayaa chhe....badaa sawaab ma shamil thaao....even moula ke chaliswe ki raat ko masjid mai announce hua ki kal last day hai....ye aakhiri din hai..."please fakhir see fakhir raqam laee ne aawzo" ...maira sirf itna sawaal tha ki jab collection already double ho gayaa hai...phir sabse fakhir raqam ki demand kyu ? wo bhi masjid ke andar table lagaa kar....bhai think about it...aapke jo bhi dost dubai mai ho...please aap freely confirm kar lenaa....
wa salaam bhai

[Sujud]

Zakah money is not used for travels of Syedna TUS . In one of his bayans , Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS himself said that he used to do araz for raza of business to his revered father Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA ( gist of the bayan . ) It is no secret that the family of Dai TUS does business and earn a living .

I didn't back out at all . If you read my answer , you will see " I don't know " in that . I gave you my reason for not striving to know the business interests of Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS . I am just not interested in that . Different strokes for different folks.

[/quote]

Mr James
So I can safely assume that most of us on the forum are unaware of businesses that are run or even if they exist. unless there is some evidence in some form (especially in a worldly matter like this ) it is as good as non existent