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Akhtiar Wahid wrote:Brother he had passed away on feb 15th night.....insider information!
it was declared on Friday.....as to create mass hysteria
SKQ saheb had sent the letter on 16th Feb for tawalli of Janaza as him being the righteous 53rd Dai-Ul-Mutlaq after serving 50 years as Mazoon-Ul-Mutlaq and he had visited him on 15th midnight to kiss his feet mubarak and farewell him to heavenly adobe
During all this time his shameful son who had manhandled him during Ashura Waaz was busy doing ayashi and property purchasing!

This Friday morning, the Da’i—sanctified in the highest of heights, chosen one of Amir ul Mumineen—Syedna Abu’l Qa’id Jawhar Mohammad Burhanuddin, has departed from the mortal realm to the presence of the Imam of this Age.

alam wrote:

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:Brother he had passed away on feb JAN15th night.....insider information!
it was declared on Friday.....as to create mass hysteria
SKQ saheb had sent the letter on 16th JAN Feb for tawalli of Janaza as him being the righteous 53rd Dai-Ul-Mutlaq after serving 50 years as Mazoon-Ul-Mutlaq and he had visited him on 15th midnight to kiss his feet mubarak and farewell him to heavenly adobe
During all this time his shameful son who had manhandled him during Ashura Waaz was busy doing ayashi and property purchasing!

You mean Jan not feb.

Janaaza was kept in icebox. This too is not public knowledge.

james wrote:Tall claims from someone who doesn't even know how Meethaq is conducted.

true_bohra wrote:ghulam muhammed wrote:Although the die hard Mufaddali abdes will not agree due to their slavish mentality but the ground reality is that a vast majority of Bohras appreciate SKQ's vision and criticise MS's looting tactics and laughable bayans. It is an accepted fact that they don't come out in the open and support SKQ publicly due to family concerns and threat perceptions from Muffy gang. Once SKQ puts his infrastructure in order then it wont be surprising if hordes of Bohras cross over to his side. Its all a matter of time !!

Was any opinion poll conducted for this or you assumed???

james wrote:

alam wrote: You mean Jan not feb.

Janaaza was kept in icebox. This too is not public knowledge.

More bullshit from you. Ice in tub was kept around the Jussa Mubarak of Al Hayyul Muqaddas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA during deedar sharaf in bethak room on ground floor Saify Mahal.Thousands have seen this manzar.So it is public knowledge. Two three tubs of ice were kept around the Janaza Mubarak in Taheri Masjid after ghusl and kafan.

" Janaza was never kept in icebox " .

james wrote:More bullshit from you. Ice in tub was kept around the Jussa Mubarak of Al Hayyul Muqaddas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA during deedar sharaf in bethak room on ground floor Saify Mahal.Thousands have seen this manzar.So it is public knowledge. Two three tubs of ice were kept around the Janaza Mubarak in Taheri Masjid after ghusl and kafan.

" Janaza was never kept in icebox " .

Maqbool wrote:James,
Yes there are mass people in bohra community who are not happy with the way MS bs extracting money and his amil's dadagiri.

Ones the KQ bs machinery will be in place I am 100% sure that more and more people will cross the fence. I request all abdes who defend MS bs should mingle with the common bohras and then only they will know the reality of our community. We are on the base level where many majority bohras are suffering, and that is the reason I can say with confidence.

Very often the hard core abdes says to leave if you are not satisfied. They know very well it is not easy to leave because of setup of our community at present and once the flood door is open everybody will surprise the out come. That day will not be far away, Insha Allah.

Succession[edit]

After Ja'far al-Sadiq's death during the reign of the ‘Abbāsids, various Shī‘ī groups organised in secret opposition to their rule. Among them were the supporters of the proto-Ismā‘īlī community, of whom the most prominent group were called the "Mubārakiyyah".
There are hadīth which state that Ismā‘īl ibn Ja‘far "al-Mubārak"[citation needed] would be heir to the Imamate, as well as those that state Musa al-Kadhim[4][24] was to be the heir. However, Ismā‘īl predeceased his father.
Some of the Shī‘ah claimed Ismā‘īl had not died, but rather gone into hiding, but the proto-Ismā‘īlī group accepted his death and therefore that his eldest son, Muḥammad ibn Ismā‘īl, was now Imām. Muḥammad remained in contact with this "Mubārakiyyah" group, most of whom resided in Kūfah.[citation needed]
In contrast, Twelvers don't believe that Isma'il ibn Jafar was ever given the nass ("designation of the Imamate"),[25][26] but they acknowledge that this was the popular belief among the people at the time.[27] Both Shaykh Tusi[25] and Shaykh al-Sadūq[26] did not believe that the divine designation was changed (called Bada'), arguing that if matters as important as Imāmate were subject to change, then the fundamentals of belief should also be subject to change. Thus Twelvers accept that Mūsá al-Kāżim was the only son who was ever designated for Imāmate.
This is the initial point of divergence between the proto-Twelvers and the proto-Ismā‘īlī. This disagreement over the proper heir to Ja‘far has been a point of contention between the two groups ever since. The split among the Mubārakiyyah came with Muḥammad's death. The majority of the group denied his death; they recognised him as the Mahdi. The minority believed in his death and would eventually emerge in later times as the Fāṭimid Ismā‘īlī, ancestors to all modern groups.
Another Shia branch that emerged around the figure of Ja'far al-Sadiq was the Tawussite Shia. Following the death of al-Sadiq, the Tawussite's denied that he died and instead believed in his Mahdism.
Another Shia branch claimed that al-Sadiq's eldest surviving son Abdullah al-Aftah was the Imam to succeed his father. This branch was known as the Fathites. There is little evidence of them surviving beyond al-Aftah’s death, since he is commonly believed to have left no descendants.[28]

SKQ Fan wrote:Being a Avid, die hard SKQ supporter I want it to be known that altough being in a minority at present we are working very hard to get a majority, and ensure our brothers and sisters see the enormous deception and fraud being perperated on them, by an imposter dai Muffadal BS and his extablsihment. Our vision is there for all to see , lead the community to our oriignal Fatemi Deen and with the guidance and doa of our dai Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) inshallah we will get Fateh Mubeen soon . We believe in true islamic principles of La Iqra Ha Fee Deen so even to misguided, unfortunate folks like James and Salaar we bear no grudges or ill will . Our dai has so much Noor and Ilm that one day inshalah even such die hard Muffadlalis will see the Haq and flock to Sayenda Qutbuddin We do not believe in Lanaats or abuses and are even willing to co exist with them,albeit work on guiding them towards Noor and Haq .

Sceptical wrote:Interresting, Qutbi Bohra Wiki article has been cleaned :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutbi_Bohra

answerer wrote:

Sceptical wrote:Interresting, Qutbi Bohra Wiki article has been cleaned :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutbi_Bohra

hahaha lol ... 4 lakhs 50 thousnd ....
I think they should increase more zeros ......

answerer wrote:hahaha lol ... 4 lakhs 50 thousnd ....
I think they should increase more zeros ......

rational_guy wrote:As always Haq ni waat is as clear day light

http://www.whoistruesyedna.com/

monginis wrote:

rational_guy wrote:As always Haq ni waat is as clear day light

http://www.whoistruesyedna.com/

website is still under construction.

ghulam muhammed wrote:

answerer wrote:hahaha lol ... 4 lakhs 50 thousnd ....
I think they should increase more zeros ......

4 lakh 50 thousand or 4 thousand 5 hundred, it doesn't matter, even the rapist Asaram Bapu had more then 10 lakh followers, same like SMS, so what does it prove brother ???

monginis wrote:

answerer wrote: hahaha lol ... 4 lakhs 50 thousnd ....
I think they should increase more zeros ......

Zinger you IP is same and I can detect it in seconds, better mask your IP address before you create another ID LOOOL

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:Qualities of Syedna Khuzema Qutbuddin (TUS)

Khuzaima Qutbuddin

• He went to Wilson and Xaviers college to study psychology. Did not complete his degree as he got appointed as Mazoon when he was in the middle of the course and dropped out.

• He speaks fluent English.

• He speaks Arabic. Arranged for first trip of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA to Cairo for opening of Zari Rasul Husain AS and also arranged for Azhar Doctorate for Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.

• He learnt most of his Deeni Knowledge from his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA who apparently also gave him special time in private at night, for long hours after all had left.

• One mumin (name kept private for safety) was told by Syedna Taher Saifuddin to go to listen to Khuzaima Qutbuddin waez and said that “ye ilm mara si lidhu che, ane tu waha ja, tane wadhare samajh parse”

• About Khuzaima Qutbuddin waez, Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA (most powerful orator known in chain of Duat) said in his letter which is translated on Fatemi Dawat website.

• He can conduct waez of 3 hours without looking once at a piece of paper. Very learned and amazing style of oratory inherited from his father.

• His daily routine very similar to Syedna Taher Saifuddin, as he gives sabaq to his children during morning for 2-3 hours with regularity.

• He takes vasila without reading, but from the heart as one feels it. He is not reading a prepared script.

• He has an amazing memory as testified by many people.

• He is well travelled across the world.

• He is very open to new discoveries of science and knowledge.

• He does bayan from sources of Dawat kitab only and gives reference to them in many occasions.

• A true scholar is what many people say about him.

• He has some difficulty in speech after his surgery, but makes immense effort. Requires full attention while listening to him. Some say they have difficulty understanding some words.