Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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anajmi
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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:14 am

Let me give you some know...

The wire taps need to be warrantless because the bushies are tapping political activists, political opponents, anti-war activists and people who are in any way anti-administration so as to collect anything that they can use to hurt these people.

That may be one of the reasons why your coward *** is such an administration pussy. ;)

tahir
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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:03 am

Originally posted by Average Bohra:
Some would fall under your Zombie label, but no more than any other country
By the same token, some Middle Easterners would fall under the lacking self accountability label, but no more than any other country (including US). The lack of self acc'bility trait is distributed across humanity in a bell shaped curve just like traits such as grumpiness, stress proneness, creativity, libido etc.

anajmi
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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:36 pm

And here is another one to prove that Average Bohra is a big fat LIAR.

He posted
Here's a quote from the official Wahabi news source, Al Jazeera:

administration's four-year-old programme to eavesdropping, without warrants, on international calls and emails of Americans and others inside the United States with suspected ties to al-Qaida.
What Al Jazeera actually said was this
Cheney was speaking amid a burgeoning controversy at home over Bush's acknowledgment of a four-year-old administration program to eavesdrop - without court-approved warrants - on international calls and e-mails of Americans and others inside the US with suspected ties to al-Qaida.
So the above was not an Al Jazeera quote but what was acknowledged by the Bush administration only being reported by Al Jazeera.

Here's the link

Cheney defends secret spying

LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by Humsafar » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:34 pm

However, as I have said many a time before, Saddam was no saint and the rest of you tend to give him a free ride.
What do you mean by "the rest of you". Nobody in the right mind would give Saddam a free ride. In fact, it's the U.S that gave him a free ride when he was a friend ("our own SOB") and at a time when he was committing his worst atrocities.
Then there is the question of the lack of accountability and double-standard when it comes to Palestinian corruption, the treatment of Palestinian refugees by Arabs
So, what's your point? I'm sure you don't mean that because of Arab’s corruption and double-standards Israel is justified in occupying their lands and killing Palestinians at will. Sure you don't mean this but this is exactly how you sound.
If the world focused on daily human rights abuses in the Middle East and Africa...
Yes it should. How many times do you read in the US press about corruption, abuse, lack of freedom and rights etc. in, say Saudi Arabia or Egypt or Turkey? American friends are not to be harassed. Go after them only when they fall out of favour, a la Saddam. Double standards or realpolitik?

One last point, it is a logical fallacy to deflect attention from America's shortcomings by pointing to the greater shortcomings of others. What you fail to understand is that Africa and Middle East have no pretensions to the noble ideals of democracy, freedom and human rights. They don’t give a shit. But America does, and that is why it is held to a higher standard.

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by Average Bohra » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:23 am

it is a logical fallacy to deflect attention from America's shortcomings by pointing to the greater shortcomings of others. What you fail to understand is that Africa and Middle East have no pretensions to the noble ideals of democracy, freedom and human rights. They don’t give a shit. But America does, and that is why it is held to a higher standard.
It is this intellectual dishonesty that I will continue to expose.

My stand and point regarding the Palestinian conflict is well documented on this board if you care to look it up.

anajmi
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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:02 am

Honey, do you have room for one more pant?

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by tahir » Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:55 am

Originally posted by Average Bohra:

I am against the war in Iraq, and our bias toward Israel. However, as I have said many a time before, Saddam was no saint and the rest of you tend to give him a free ride. Then there is the question of the lack of accountability and double-standard when it comes to Palestinian corruption, the treatment of Palestinian refugees by Arabs, to name a few.

If the world focused on daily human rights abuses in the Middle East and Africa with the same zeal as wiretapping phone calls from or to a terrorist, we would all be better served.
This arguement sounds like this:

I do not defend the 9/11 terrorist attack but those who died in the bombings were not proven saints. Many were loan defaulters while many were charged with financial scams and bribery. Some had beaten their wives at least once in their marital life and some were child molesters. Some were pure zombies who could have never justified their existence. There was this kid who planned to enter the classroom with his father's handgun and spray bullets all around. Then there was this man who for a short period joined the skin-head gang and vandalised a grocery shop owned by a South Asian and thrashed a guy with middle eastern features in the street. The cop who was charred in the fire was actually found guilty in two cases of racial abuse in prison. And so on....

So if you only criticise Al Qaida while giving a free ride to the victims, you are actually maintaining double standards.

I'll continue to expose this intellectual dishonesty.

If the world focused on daily misconducts of people died in the 9/11 accident with the same zeal as airplanes making holes in two buildings, we would all be better served.

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by JC » Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:31 pm

El-Juan,

Hi dude

What you think of Islam is true for EVERY religion, Christianity, Judaism, all are SAME in essence. All want FULL submission, power and ALL claim they are to improve ur life here and hereafter ...... today all is for power and money. Religion in itself is NOTHING, it is due to people, believe it or not .... i know Anajami will come shouting, but still say - without Musa, Christ or Mohammad, these religions are nothing, they revolve around them only - i agree these were great leaders, powerful statesmen who CREATED their domains in the name of religion. Same is being followed, Khomaini for Iranis, Mirza Masroor for Qadianis and offcourse our poor bohras have created Hussain for their own purpose as Burhan is of NO standing ....!!!!

So lets not blame Islam and Muslims only. WE ALL are in same S***

anajmi
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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:09 pm

JC,

HERE I AM SHOUTING.

But you have to think. When did I force you to believe in Islam? I didn't, I never will. I don't give a rat's a-s-s.

Just don't tell me that you do not believe because there is something wrong with it. The problem is, you want a religion which will allow you to do everything you want to do. Since no religion does that, every religion becomes bad and hence according to you we are all in the same S***. No my friend, I may be in S*** but definitely not the same one as you!!

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by JC » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:09 pm

Anajami

Thanx for reply. Religions are to be revisited based on time and knowlege, wisdom and freedom .... it should evolve .... i can only say that coz i believe in that. You have a right to disagree.

And trust me, i respect you and your views and i also like to read more of Average Bohra, Porus, Humsafar and Tahir.

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:08 am

Religions have been revisited based on time and knowledge.

There was David (as) and the Zaboor, then there was Musa (as) and the Torah then there was Jesus (as) and the Ingeel and then there was prophet Muhammed (saw) and the quran.

But these were based on the will of Allah not on the whim of humans.

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Re: Islam! Just a religion of biggots and terrorist

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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:44 pm

U.S. accused of spying on those who disagree with Bush policies

Did someone say they were spying on "terrorists abroad"?

But wait, it is only one group that is claiming this that does not mean all right. One is not all.

And only one name Hersh has been mentioned as objecting to it out of millions of Americans. One is not millions.