Islam and democracy

[anajmi]

seeker,

Looks like you just joined the moron band wagon of people who have nothing other than the "WAHABI" slogan. Now you've lost all credibility that you never had.

Salaams.

[accountability]

Anajmi: You know, with all your above posts, I have come to a positive conclusion.

With intelictuals like you, Islam did not ever had a regular governing system, With this continued breed, It never will have.

That is why, Islam produced rulers, like Hajjaj bin Yousuf ,(who attacked a peaceful state of deebal without provocation like george bush ). Like the ruler, who attacked persia, and overthrew the most decent, just and kind ruler without provocation. Like Tariq bin ziyad, who attacked spain without provocation, but when muslim rule ended, there was not a single muslim in that empire left.

Actually, you should have excused yourself from this debate for your lack of insight in current and past history.

I am sure, the above rulers had advisors, who had your " inteligent approach and insight ".

[anajmi]

accty,

Finally, you come to a positive conclusion. Does it help anyone? Does it produce any answers? eh..nope!!

I am not sure which post you are reading, but it doesn't matter. Your reading abilities were never the envy of anyone.

Let us see what solutions you have for the questions you posed.

[accountability]

If I may:

The first thing to do,

a: for muslim historians and intelictuals, is to critically analyze islam's history, right from the begining. They should not hesitate to call a spade a spade.

b: Quran should be treated as a book of guidance and not an ultimate soloution carrying sahifa.

C: Quran should be interprated according to realm of history and then prevelant socio economic condition.

d: The selective transforamation of suggestions into command be avoided.

e: Muslim historian and intelictuals should be courageous and honest enough, to say, that " Yes Quran is a book of guidance, but Allah has bestowed man with consiousness and wisdom to mould it according to the need of the hour.

f: If they can't find answeres to modern complex equations of ruling, governing, administering etc in islamic theology, they should admit it, and then come up with modern theories, that are not against islam.

[anajmi]

accty,

I think we have seen enough of your interpretation of the quran to say that you are the least qualified to make any judgment on how it should be interpreted.

Besides I did give answers to all the questions you asked based upon my conciousness and wisdom. Go back and read them. And this time around, read them real slow.

[seeker110]

Religion will always bring out the worst in people.It should be kept in the dark like what happens in the bedroom.All the hype about more sawab in numbers just makes us an easy target.

Most of our jamatkhanas are in public views.When people see all the food and smells of food,makes them jealous.Not everybody get to eat same food.

Non muslims already have doubts about the muslims.No need to give them more reasons.If we can do away with all forms of food,then we will know the true reason for people coming to masjid.Next time go to masjid when there is no food,you will find a small number of people.Some of them you dont even want to know.If you have done this once,you know what I am talking about.

So Islam can be all to you if you can keep it in your heart.All your actions should lead one to believe that you are a good muslim. I really mean your actions with mouths completly closed.

The relationship a muslim has with Allah is so personal,no need to discus it with every Tom Dick and Harry. Besides you are your own keeper.

Rasul Allah had more love and respect when he was not made a Rasul.All He had going for him was his sadaqat and aminiyet.

Jews in America will never tell if they are Jews,they will be some form of christains.They understand the meaning of survival,bohras announce it the time the front door closes on them.Its time to get wise,or be swimming against the flow.

Salams

[anajmi]

You mean it's time to live like a coward and hide behind others.?

You mean, like the jews, and probably you too, we should be ashamed of ourselves?

And the only people going to the mosque for food are the bohras and they constitute less than 1% of the muslims.

[seeker110]

Br. Anajmi give yourself an extra hour at the airport in usa.With your hoolia maybe two.

[anajmi]

How about I take you with me and hide behind you? I am sure people will mistake you for a jew!!

[seeker110]

Or they will mistake you for a wahabi-bohra

[anajmi]

General hears Marines' concerns in Iraq

Read the answers given to the marines by this general. Not only do these generals think that the Arabs are idiots, they take even their own marines to be idiots.

[anajmi]

Iraqi has worst fuel shortage since '03

This is what American led democracy has brought to Iraq.

[Average Bohra]

The focus of your comment has an easy answer. Time for you to IM your Wahabi brethren and stop them from bombing gas stations and oil pipelines.

What you don't care about is more scary (in the same article) wherein lies the root of the problem.

The irony is especially bitter in a country that sits atop the world's third-largest proven petroleum reserves. Iraq's estimated 115 billion barrels are exceeded in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries only by Saudi Arabia and Iran

US tanks rolled into Iraq at the speed of a Porsche. War footage looked like a NASCAR race. The army of Iraq was waving underwear in surrender, and not a single fighter plane even attempted to launch.

Iraq did have something to show for its oil. The riches of Saddam its dictator. Unless that starts bothering Muslims there is absolutely no hope in Iraq either.

[anajmi]

Read the title of the article again you idiot.

Let me post it again.

Iraqi has worst fuel shortage since '03

There is no hope in Iraq till the Americans remain there. They need to be kicked out before Iraq will start coming back on track.

However, if all Americans are as dumb as you are, not just iraq but the entire world is screwed.

[Average Bohra]

I am assuming that you have wet dreams at night thinking that if the US leaves, the Muslims will unite and burn aggarbattis. Hold hands and rebuild the pipelines and stop the Muslim on Muslim violence. Power will be on, gas prices will be down, and you guys will pray in the same mosque.

If the US leaves now , there will be 3 countries and Iraq will cease to exist.

I support the US leaving now, and they should have never been there. Democracy cannot be spread with force or a spoon. You guys are defintely not ready.

[anajmi]

Here is another example of American IQ

Bush Places Blame Squarely on Hezbollah

Israel destroys Lebanon, Israel kills thousands, Israel displaces tens of thousands, but it all Hezbollah's fault. With thinking like this, only God can save us from these morons.

[anajmi]

Average Moron,

What happens after the Americans leave is immaterial. I am actually more concerned about what is happening with the Americans there.

You seem to be keeping track of my wet dreams, what about yours? Dead Muslim children with decapitated heads?

[Average Bohra]

Originally posted by anajmi:


What happens after the Americans leave is immaterial.

That is why you will always live in the middle ages all the while dreaming you could live in the Middle East.

[anajmi]

With the Americans in charge the Iraqis are already living in the middle ages.

Toy remote control triggers airliner evacuation at LA airport

This is the state of your "nuclear power". With idiots in charge and idiots voting, what can you expect.

[anajmi]

At 9:30 tonight, Iraq takes longer than WW II

Hmmm...

[Average Bohra]

Please count the unfortunate civilian casualties during WWII and Iraq. This is propaganda without context directed at the masses. Perhaps they would have preferred a shorter war with Nukes instead ?

[anajmi]

And we have to remember that during WW II the Americans were the good guys.

[Average Bohra]

I am assuming that you would have preferred Hitler.

[anajmi]

Nope, which actually proves that I am smarter than you are.

[hfz]

dear brother anajmi and av bohra.

what is it that you guys can't stand in each other?

even if the both of you aren't of similar beliefs, please make peace, in the name of Islam, at least?

sigh.

i really wondered at how eager you guys were whenever you guys log onto progressive dawoodi bohra webbie, just to read the wrongs in other people's posts, and play smart-alec, and hurl abuses.

sigh.

please, grow up. or rather, grow more, since the majority of you people here are grown-up intellects.

remember, leave the criticisms to Allah, our Creator.

wassalam.