Mansoos' Pearls Of Wisdom: Imam Hussain And His Ghoda.

[anajmi]

warso pehla dawat na ander rahi ne dawat ni amanat ma khayanat kidi hati kai ghaplo kido tho to khuda tala ye ehna uper azaab utari ne ehne sanp ni kholi ma naakha hata

I imagine pretty soon the zoo will be overrun with snakes in sayo and topi!!

[bingo]

Anajmi seriously you thought of that, God Almighty... nothing better than that to offend me!!! I seriously sulk at that comment it does give me heartache on your existence I wouldnt call out Imam Hussain ( A.S )'s name in vain, like you do. Disgraceful!

[anajmi]

Aw shut up moron. People like you call out his name at the drop of a hat and start beating your chests in show. But when the time comes to actually fight, you run and hide like cowards and then apologize in front of national tv. You cowards even bribe the Yazids of today and bow down in front of them. Shame on you for taking the name of Hussain and then doing these deeds!!

[bingo]

umm interesting i would love to see myself on national tv someday.lol
correction beating chests would be azadari this is not what our masters teach us this is what has been going on for centuries!! and about the bribing part all I can say I have money and you dont.lol!!( a bad joke) just kiddin man I dont remember my self bribing anyone I said before and again I dont have any masters or stooge just an ordinary shia ( follower)

[Al Zulfiqar]

safiuddin,

that was a gem! i dont know how you managed to slip in so many punches in such few words. pure genius man!

I really dont know abt the Rivayat of Aqa Ali ( A.S) because this was something I heard when I was really small but all I just remember is the gist thats it

Ha! Sancta Simplicitas!
Dingo,

When I question the validity of a talking horse, you consider it to be "shit". When asked to detail the Rivaayat of Hazrat Ali that you
referred to, you state I was really small and just remember the gist. My guess is that, while physically bigger, you are still really small.
Before attempting to impress us with your Doctorate in Sa-Baq Baq,
kindly do your homework. Perhaps you can narrate 1 second of Maqtal - e - Hussain in 25 words or less.

I'll bet you waited up to see Santa Claus this year, didn't you?
Did the goats speak to you at the abattoir this year on Eid ul Adha?
And don't forget - the talking rabbit comes at Easter.

[Bohra spring]

Guys just think before you write these stories, I know your intention is to elevate your respect for the ahlul bayt , but some of your stories are scientifically false and are not intended for discussion outside kindergarten where children are taught religious tales.

Why would the imams want to converse with a pigeon or horse...the animals have not intellect so are you not insulting the imam for talking to a sub intelligent creature.

Language is only possible in humans , some animals respond to training or few instructions , but his does no mean they can undertake and ideological discussion!

A human talking to a pet is ok as it is more of for affection. And the pet may respond in jesture or action.

But your stories lead to the point where you are almost implying a two way communication took place. Have you thought why would these animal converse .

For a 60 year old so called Islamic scholar to say so in a sermon where , thousands are listening is ludicrous ! It shows how shallow his own intellect is that he or his speechwriter would not research that he is making a fool of himself . For adbdes to believe it and propagate these stories is even more ludicrous but why would we be surprised.

Jus as a note dolphins and whales or apes are some of the more intelligent animals why not them ?

The bohras have got their story telling completely confused.

One point talk about talking animals,, the also talk gruesome killing stories where the head priest animates the beheading in front of children's and public. I wish someone replayed his own recording and had a man to man discussions to see if he really knows what he is doing!

[ghulam muhammed]

The one supposed to be a great intellect and a spiritual leader of over a million followers who even guarantees jannat like none other (by giving a hand written reccomendation to Allah (swt)) makes a ridiculous and stupid faux pass by saying that the horse was with Imam Hussain (a.s.) since almost 60 odd years, now this definately deserves a place in Guiness books of world records as the only horse who lived for so long. As the saying goes "Ek jhooth chhupane ke liye, 100 jhuth bolne padte hai" and eventually one is caught in one of the 100 odd jhooths !!

[SAJJAD]

The Fairytale story narrated by Manhoos this past Muharram about Imam Hussain (A.S.) and his horse is evidence of another man made brand new invention by the mafia clergy. All these years have gone by and in 2012 Manhoos decides to unveil a false account of events that puts the Bohra clergy to further shame in the eyes of the Muslim world.

The ulterior motive of Manhoos is to further manipulate idiot abdes by hitting them in their hollow brains and making them succumb to the leadership. This way the clergy can continue to loot the abdes and fill their coffers with more moolah. This is a truly a mockery of Imam Hussain (A.S.). Shame on Manhoos !

[SAJJAD]

The Fairytale story narrated by Manhoos this past Muharram about Imam Hussain (A.S.) and his horse is evidence of another man made brand new invention by the mafia clergy. All these years have gone by and in 2012 Manhoos decides to unveil a false account of events that puts the Bohra clergy to further shame in the eyes of the Muslim world.

The ulterior motive of Manhoos is to further manipulate idiot abdes by hitting them in their hollow brains and making them succumb to the leadership. This way the clergy can continue to loot the abdes and fill their coffers with more moolah. This is a truly a mockery of Imam Hussain (A.S.). Shame on Manhoos !

[Al Zulfiqar]

to all those who question these mojizas, dont you know that in bohra islam:

- bad bohras can be turned into snakes?
- bohra ladies fall in love with sadhus?
- an innocent bohra can be trapped in the body of a goat, about to be slaughtered on bakri eid, but spotted in time by mola and saved?
- that a barren dying lake can yield an unending supply of fish for mola?
- that incurable cancers, gangrene, and insanity can be cured from thousands of miles away by mola?
- that an abde can be saved from certain disaster, viz. wtc towers on 9/11, just by telepathy, while thousands of non-believers and kafirs were sadistically allowed to perish?
- that the daily dabba thaali has miraculous properties to enhance your health, intellect, energy and aqeeda?
- that the more bankrupt you get showering your wealth on mola, the richer you get in your imaan?
- that even allah is helpless and subservient to mola as he dare not admit any bohra without mola's permission?
- that mola will live taa qayamat in sehato aafeeyat?
- that the kaaba in mecca is mere hogwash and mola is the haqiqi kaaba?
- that since the last 2 syednas, allah's powers and authority have been drastically curbed and now mola is the ilah ul ardh (allah of earth)?

all this is mentioned in our hole-y scriptures which had predicted that a taher saifuddin and mohammed burhanuddin are coming to save islam and bohra deen. if anyone doubts this, please ask adam. send him a pm or better yet, attend sabak bakbaks with him and learn all this first hand.

[ghulam muhammed]

One more pearl of wisdom unleashed by Mansoos during the bayan on 10th Mohurrum was that "Hussain jivare sajda maa gaya to aap ye molana taher saifuddin ane molana burhanuddin na haq maa dua kidhi"........... Believe me, this is not a joke but excerpts of the actual bayan delivered by mansoos.

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro gm,

this re-inforces the fact that mola taher saifuddin and mola mohd burhanuddin have been around since the beginning of human civilisation.

in fact, few people know, but who was responsible for adam nabee's fall from grace and expulsion from paradise? who brainwashed hawwa into tempting adam to eat the forbidden fruit? it was both these mola's! they knew that it was already ordained that adam nabee was to be hurled towards earth to serve his penitence. by making him eat of this poison fruit, both these mola's carried out allah's bidding and saved adam's skin from a worse fate.

both mola's have been the chosen pets of allah since before creation. all the prophets, imams and farishtas have sung the praises of these 2 mola's. even the sun, moon, solar system, constellations, galaxies and nebulaes move in their heavenly orbits with the beshumaar karam ane ehsaan of the 51st and 52nd dai's. the mansoos will be the crowning glory and will bring the black * 'holes' into his purview as well. he is well on his way.

[Bohra spring]

Az you are wasting your talent being a PDB

If only some one translates it into dawaat zaban

You will get so popular and sms will be sent around

If we loose you best wishes on other side as sheikh Az mkd and tamne ziafat umid fateh

[JC]

What else Manhoos can do other than talking about Ghoras and Ghadas ....

[JC]

Bros,

One slight amendment in my last post - Manhoos has nothing to say other than the stories of Ghoras to Ghadas...

[KhalifatulRahman]

One more pearl of wisdom unleashed by Mansoos during the bayan on 10th Mohurrum was that "Hussain jivare sajda maa gaya to aap ye molana taher saifuddin ane molana burhanuddin na haq maa dua kidhi"........... Believe me, this is not a joke but excerpts of the actual bayan delivered by mansoos.

I have no doubts about it....

Aqa Hussain(s) forgot mansoos bhai? his name shud also have been taken....but I think it would not be good advertising by his own mouth, I am sure Amils will now take/join his name as well.


on serious note: do these slaves still need some electric shock to wake up?

[KhalifatulRahman]

Adam bhai, kaha chup ke baithe ho? your master is openly making mockery of ISLAAM and shadat of AQA HUSSAIN(s)...kuch to bolo yaar?

ye waqt chupne chupane kaa nahi kuch bolne kaa hain. other wise there is no benefit of your ILM.

[humble_servant_us]

"Hussain jivare sajda maa gaya to aap ye molana taher saifuddin ane molana burhanuddin na haq maa dua kidhi"

I am not sure if this was said or not. But if it was said, i have some academic questions

- Based on the assumption that Bohra Madhab is right and all Dais are the true inheritors of Imam Husain(as).
- Why would Imam Husain(as) only remember the 51st and 52nd Dai. There were so many imams and Dais in the chain why only these two.
- If he really did, this makes them superior to all the Dais and imams in line, which is not true because the Imams are still considered to be more superior than Dais as per Bohra fiqh.
- If Imam husain(as) had to remember a Dai, common sense dictates he should have remembered Sayedna Qutbuddin shaheed because he was supposedly martyred and today Bohras attribute Ahmedabad as 2nd Karbala.

So it is beyond logic and reasoning that Imam husain(as) would have ever made this statement.

If a ordinary bohra would have made this statement, we could call it as his exaggeration of love for the 51st and 52nd Dai, but when it comes from the would be 53rd Dai, it raises a lot of questions on his credibility. How could a man of such stature make statements which cannot be proved. Have we lost our sense of thinking that we our accepting anything in the name of religion of allah(swt).

I am sorry but if we have to accept such people as our role models or leaders for deen than surely there are bigger questions in store for us on the day of judgement.

Allah(swt) knows the best!

[KhalifatulRahman]

this new guy has got wrong script writter, he need to be fired as soon a possible, before this manhoos make some more blunders in public

[KhalifatulRahman]

its almost 1 year this guy is operating dawah affairs, what religious works have been carried out from him in last 365 days?

let the numbers speak....

[KhalifatulRahman]

flir**** with ***** and killing lions and elephants doesn't counts in religious works

[trvoice]

Cmon you cant just fire your own kids. Can you

this new guy has got wrong script writter, he need to be fired as soon a possible, before this manhoos make some more blunders in public

[asad]

Mumin_DB

The effort you took in copy pasting the sms containing ages of prophets is more than it would have taken you to pick up book Asasus tawil and get to know what these ages mean for Bohras, but oh i forgot you dont have the book with you, so go and ask your aamil.

And Horse was killed in Kebala so their is no question of it going anywhere with Shehre Bano wife of Hussain.

[Aymelek]

And Horse was killed in Kebala so their is no question of it going anywhere with Shehre Bano wife of Hussain.

Br. Asad,

Mumin_DB is right as per the Bohra version of history, which is related from Uyun Al Akhbar or from Imam Zain Ul Abedeen.
Duldul or Zuljanah as per Bohra / Ismaili historians was not killed in kerbala.

However, we need to remember there are many versions of history pertaining to the events of Kerbala. For example in Kitab Maqtal Al Husayn by Abu Mikhnaf Imam Husain was beheaded by Sinan whereas in Kitab Maqtal Al Husayn by Abdul Razzak it refers to Shimr.

[asad]

And Horse was killed in Kebala so their is no question of it going anywhere with Shehre Bano wife of Hussain.

Br. Asad,

Mumin_DB is right as per the Bohra version of history, which is related from Uyun Al Akhbar or from Imam Zain Ul Abedeen.
Duldul or Zuljanah as per Bohra / Ismaili historians was not killed in kerbala.

However, we need to remember there are many versions of history pertaining to the events of Kerbala. For example in Kitab Maqtal Al Husayn by Abu Mikhnaf Imam Husain was beheaded by Sinan whereas in Kitab Maqtal Al Husayn by Abdul Razzak it refers to Shimr.

Br. Ayemelek,

Can you confirm the age of the talking horse with reference from Bohra dawat books. As according to waez of Mufaddal saheb it should be more than 60 years of age.

[badrijanab]

Dear Trvoice & The rest,

It seems you are an illitrate who pretends to be very educated and trying to show some very little smartness by questioning the Bayan of DAI/Mansoos.

The Ages of Prophet:
Prophet Adam Alaihi Salaam is: 930 years
Prophet Noah-Nuh Alaihi Salaam is: 950 years
Prophet Shoaib Alaihi Salaam is: 882 years
Prophet Saleh - Saaleh Alaihi Salaam is: 586 years
Prophet Idris - Idrees Alaihi Salaam is: 356 years
Prophet Hud Alaihi Salaam is: 265 years
Prophet Zakariya Alaihi Salaam is: 207 years
Prophet Ibrahim Alaihi Salaam is: 195 years
The Prophet Sulaiman - Solomon Alaihi Salaam is: 150 years
Prophet Ayyub - Ayyoob Alaihi Salaam is: 146 years
Prophet Ya'qub - Ya'qoob Alaihi Salaam is: 139 years
The Prophet Ishmael – Ismail Alaihi Salaam is: 137 years

does anyone has an answer to the above ages of Prophets ?? which race of human did they belong to ??? how can human being live so long ?? If prophets can live why not Imam Hussain's Zuljana ?? Do you even know where did the horse go with Imam Hussain's wife- Shere Banu (AS) ???

It wasnt just a Horse you idiots Muslims who knws only half knowledge about your religion.

Looks like you all influenced by the WAHABIS , DEOBANDIS , TABLIGI etc Muslims who are, is and will always been against Shias and Dawoodi Bohras.

Bhai mumin_DB,

We DB consider above ages related info to be incorrect.

[JC]

Mumin_DB

What was the average of Human Being at Hussain's time? Same applies to Animals age, what would be the average age of a horse then? Numbers do not jive for Muffadal.

Everything is 'relative' and not 'absolute', so you cannot compare age of human beings hundreds of thousands years back to recent past and apply it to say age of animals. Had that been the case all the animals of that age would have lived longer - now do not say 'it was Hussain's horse' because Hussain and his entire family showed a regular life pattern of those days except they showed tremedous courage at Karbala. That 'courage' was something not tangible.

[KhalifatulRahman]

Dear Trvoice & The rest,

It seems you are an illitrate who pretends to be very educated and trying to show some very little smartness by questioning the Bayan of DAI/Mansoos.

The Ages of Prophet:
Prophet Adam Alaihi Salaam is: 930 years
Prophet Noah-Nuh Alaihi Salaam is: 950 years
Prophet Shoaib Alaihi Salaam is: 882 years
Prophet Saleh - Saaleh Alaihi Salaam is: 586 years
Prophet Idris - Idrees Alaihi Salaam is: 356 years
Prophet Hud Alaihi Salaam is: 265 years
Prophet Zakariya Alaihi Salaam is: 207 years
Prophet Ibrahim Alaihi Salaam is: 195 years
The Prophet Sulaiman - Solomon Alaihi Salaam is: 150 years
Prophet Ayyub - Ayyoob Alaihi Salaam is: 146 years
Prophet Ya'qub - Ya'qoob Alaihi Salaam is: 139 years
The Prophet Ishmael – Ismail Alaihi Salaam is: 137 years

does anyone has an answer to the above ages of Prophets ?? which race of human did they belong to ??? how can human being live so long ?? If prophets can live why not Imam Hussain's Zuljana ?? Do you even know where did the horse go with Imam Hussain's wife- Shere Banu (AS) ???

It wasnt just a Horse you idiots Muslims who knws only half knowledge about your religion.

Looks like you all influenced by the WAHABIS , DEOBANDIS , TABLIGI etc Muslims who are, is and will always been against Shias and Dawoodi Bohras.

what is source of your information?

can u prove it scientifically human can live 1000 years and above?

and most importantly does QURAAN supports your claim?

any thing below QURAAN is not acceptable

[KhalifatulRahman]

Dear Asad,

It seems you hv seem some movies made on Karbala - where as they show Horses being killed but the fact remains - the horse was neva killed .
Since you are out of track and has been brainwashed against DB - its baseless talking to fools like you -

so even u have watched movie isnt it? though ur master dont allow you to take from any media apart from bohras?

[KhalifatulRahman]

Dear Trvoice & The rest,

It seems you are an illitrate who pretends to be very educated and trying to show some very little smartness by questioning the Bayan of DAI/Mansoos.
The Ages of Prophet:
Prophet Adam Alaihi Salaam is: 930 years
Prophet Noah-Nuh Alaihi Salaam is: 950 years
Prophet Shoaib Alaihi Salaam is: 882 years
Prophet Saleh - Saaleh Alaihi Salaam is: 586 years
Prophet Idris - Idrees Alaihi Salaam is: 356 years
Prophet Hud Alaihi Salaam is: 265 years
Prophet Zakariya Alaihi Salaam is: 207 years
Prophet Ibrahim Alaihi Salaam is: 195 years
The Prophet Sulaiman - Solomon Alaihi Salaam is: 150 years
Prophet Ayyub - Ayyoob Alaihi Salaam is: 146 years
Prophet Ya'qub - Ya'qoob Alaihi Salaam is: 139 years
The Prophet Ishmael – Ismail Alaihi Salaam is: 137 years

does anyone has an answer to the above ages of Prophets ?? which race of human did they belong to ??? how can human being live so long ?? If prophets can live why not Imam Hussain's Zuljana ?? Do you even know where did the horse go with Imam Hussain's wife- Shere Banu (AS) ???

It wasnt just a Horse you idiots Muslims who knws only half knowledge about your religion.

Looks like you all influenced by the WAHABIS , DEOBANDIS , TABLIGI etc Muslims who are, is and will always been against Shias and Dawoodi Bohras.

lets say all these prophets lived more then 150 years. then dont u think the most important person Muhammed(s) shud have been granted life till qayamah?