Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Also, children are taught to kiss Mola's photo before going to schools, before appearing for exams. The obvious and visible truth is that one finds multiple Mola's photographs in every nook and corner of a bohra household and none or hardly one photograph of Kaaba or Masjid-un-Nabawi. The sawaab of praying namaz with Mola is considered to be much greater then anything else, going to Makkah or Karbala with Mola's entourage has the highest religious significance and finally showering money on Mola and his zaadas for their ayyashis is far better then feeding the poor and needy.

This is no longer a religion, it is only a CULT centered around Mola, everything else is unworthy or negligible.

most bohra dont know they are not even closer to Islaam in any ways.

and this is all because of distance from true guidance of QURAAN.

I was lucky I was been encouraged by my buzurg to read QURAAN with understanding to understand what creator wants to speak to us, and I will continue teaching QURAAN to my coming generations Inshallah AMEEN.

bohra_manus wrote:

zinger wrote: You have been hanging out or mingling with the wrong kind of people.

every DB that i have come across is either As salam aale kum or Kem cho bhai/ben and the reply has always been Waalekum as salam (not alhamdolillah) or Humme sara che bhai, tame kem cho

Bro. Zinger,
I partially agree with you on one thing, the response to "As salam aleykum" and disagree with the rest.
I agree that for "As salam aleykum" is generally responded with "Waaleykum Salam" but to "Kem cho" the response is "Maula ni doa thi fine che"
Even during discussions ladies mainly say "Ya Mola" instaed of "ya Allah". My own sisters and sister in laws do this so do many ladies.
Also ladies take "Maula's vasilo" when concerned with any thing.

im not saying that people dont say Maula ni dua thi fine che, they do. we see n number of people saying it in our jamaat too, but fact remains, the n number is very small indeed

about Ya Maula.... sorry bro, this is the FIRST time i've EVER heard of it. I have ALWAYS heard Ya Ali or Ya Hussain, NEVER EVER EVER Ya Maula. and this counts my mum, my maacis' my maamis', my kakis' and all my faijees' (yeah, i have a huuuge extended family. dont even ask how many cousins, i often lose track of them. anyways, digressing, back to point)

sorry, bro, have to completely disagree with you on the Ya Maula bit. and btw, if you ever do catch them saying it, do gently remind them that what they are doing is wrong. but do it ever so gently, you dont want to be at the recieveing end.

As for Maula's vasila, well, yeah, that happens veeeeeerrry often. but then dont countless other Muslims too? Dont they take Haji Ali or Hazrat Nizammudin or Khwaja Garib Nawaz's wasila??? This is a very basic human tendancy and personally, i dont think its wrong to ask someone to intercede on your behalf

Al Fateh wrote:

zinger wrote:Silvertongue, i apologise to you on behalf of my brother-in-faith Mumin_DB.

we orthrodox DBs, being bashed so often on this site, tend to sometimes loose control and lash out.

so do u plan to give misaaq to part time dai of yours this year?

btw _DB isnt you brother in faith, he thinks dai is full time dai and always correct, while you think you dai can utter bullshiit and do nonsense some times. LOL

Please mind your language. dont forget who you are talking about.

ghulam muhammed wrote:Also, children are taught to kiss Mola's photo before going to schools, before appearing for exams. The obvious and visible truth is that one finds multiple Mola's photographs in every nook and corner of a bohra household and none or hardly one photograph of Kaaba or Masjid-un-Nabawi. The sawaab of praying namaz with Mola is considered to be much greater then anything else, going to Makkah or Karbala with Mola's entourage has the highest religious significance and finally showering money on Mola and his zaadas for their ayyashis is far better then feeding the poor and needy.

This is no longer a religion, it is only a CULT centered around Mola, everything else is unworthy or negligible.

GM, agreed it is wrong as per Islam but this is only taking the blessing.

also, how many homes have you seen where there is only Maulas photo? for every 1 home that you can show me, i can show you 10 which has pictures of the Kaaba (agreed, maybe not the Masjid un Nabawi)

Ofcourse the sawab of praying with Maula or going to Haj and Karbala with Maula is considered of utmost importance. He is a representative of the Imam in the current time for God's sake, did you forget that????????

As for showering money, well to each his own. if they feel that it has more sawaab than doing charity.... well what can i say. pity them.

To Survive in the society sometimes we need to take steps we don't want to. Thats not for us but for the ones we care about. Like our parents or relatives. So as far as FAKE Misaq is concerned, We do say Na'am coz as I understand and I have noticed that it starts from the creation of Adam and ends with Dai's Farmaan. Best thing is to do the maximum we can and make sure our deeds are good enough to be able to stand for Namaz while we pray.

@ Al Fateh, i have already reprimanded him.

Look at yourself, foaming at the mouth like a mad man...

Calm down or you'll burst a vessel