Imam uz Zaman-Trying to make sense of the mystery

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Imam uz Zaman-Trying to make sense of the mystery

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:43 pm

Muffy's Mojiza factory is one such example which generates billions of dollars which are showered on him to fund his and his brothers extravagant lifestyles !

Bohra spring
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Re: Imam uz Zaman-Trying to make sense of the mystery

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:02 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Muffy's Mojiza factory is one such example which generates billions of dollars which are showered on him to fund his and his brothers extravagant lifestyles !
Now nobody asks for logic when a Mojiza is dished out, just faith

regarding other comments Islamic ideology also at certain point prevents logic...many discussions have been raised that when someone questions the core the response is have faith then thereafter we can discuss logic

How hypocritical that when orthodox religion tries to look "fancy and hip" by trying to use logic and have these philosophical theories. Why fundamental salafi style sects try to live raw and basic to be easy for those public who dont have time to be entertained by philosophical sufi style , yet these fundamentalists also intolerant an extreme in their own to remain in existence

at the end of the day is to conyrol thoughts of its followers..once that is achieved thereafter they are masters to bring in wealth and power

my p0int is I do not need the concept of imam Zaman to keep me a Muslim or associated with a tradition. those who need that story to strengthen their faith , that's fine happy to tolerate your customs and tradition

move on to something you can control and do about it like poverty, health care, freedom etc

anajmi
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Re: Imam uz Zaman-Trying to make sense of the mystery

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:48 pm

The prophet (saw) has given us the last mojiza. The Quran is the final testament. You do not need a mojiza from anyone else to become a muslim. If someone is showing you a mojiza, it is not to make you a muslim but to make you his own personal abde as is evident from the condition of the bohras of today.