100 Milad Celebrations

[Conscíous]

Brother Tariq,
Welcome to the forum & Amen to your post..

Allah knows best..

[Reporter]

Want to donate gold for Maula's milad? The toronto jamat can facilitate it for you. Here's an email from the jamat:

Moazzaz Mu'mineen of the Toronto Anjuman

Baad afzalusalaam

It is customary to araz najwa-tus-shukur in Aqa Moula(TUS)'s Hazrat Imamiyah on the occasion of Moula's milad mubarak.

Janab Aamilsaheb wishes that on Moula's me'awi milad mubarak, mu'mineen as a show of mohabbat and ikhlas, araz najwa of gold coins.

Mu'mineen wishing to purchase the coins for najwa araz can contact Shk Shabbirbhai Amin (Tel 647-933-7865) who has negotiaited special rates with the trader for bulk buy.

Coins are avaiable in the following denominations:

1 Gram
5 Gram
10 gram
1 Ounce

May Allah Ta'ala keep Aqa Moula(TUS) in perfect sehat for our many generations to come and may Allah give us the tawfiq to dedicate our jaan, maal and awlaad to Bawasaheb Moula, ameen.

Abeede Syedna(TUS)
Anjuman-e-Burhani

[porus]

The following email has been reportedly sent to Bohras residing in Sweden, Norway and Denmark (2552 Swedish Kronor = approx 400 US $ = approx 18,000 Indian Rs):

786

Baad as Salaamul Jameel

SCANDINAVIA ma rehnaar Mumineen Mukhleseen,

Khuda Taala no hamd ane shukr karye ke apne Burhani door ma paida kida. Moulana Mohammed Burhanuddin Aqa(tus) na tabeen kida. Aap na ehsaano apna upar unginat che- ehni ginti na thai sake. Ek Mohtu Ehsaan to yeh che ke aap na abeed ma si apne kida che. Apna najwa ne qabool kare ne apne Dua ane Barakat si Nawaze che.

Apna zeh naseeb che ke aa saal, Moulana(tus) ni 100 mi milaad apne manawu khuda tala naseeb karse inshallah. Peshtar koi mumin ne em naseeb nathi thayu ke ehna Dai ni 100 mi milaad yeh manawe. Yeh nemat azeema par khuda tala no jitno shukr karye itno kam che. Ane apna naseeb ni balandi par jitno naaz karye itno kam che.

Toh Aa Nemat Azzema na SHUKR ma wajib em che ke Moulana(tus) na hazrat ma FAAKHIR NAJWA arz karye.

Apnu tamam maal moulana ne shukr ma arz karye to kam che. Aap to apna tamam jaan ane maalna malik che.

Em umeed che ke Scandinavia na tamaam mumineen tarafsi Huzurala(tus) ne apne 100 mi milaad par Ghana Faakhir Najwa Arz Karsu, koi ek mumin bhi najwa aapwa si mehrum na rahi jai.

Ye Waastai- har shakhs INDIVIDUALLY najwa arz kare.

3 cover ma najwa arz kari sake che:

1) GOLD COVER – ehma minimum 2552 kroner
2) SILVER COVER - ehma minimum 1052 kroner
3) NORMAL COVER – ehma jitni istitaat hoi arz kare(magar fakhir raqm arz kare)


Mamluke Syedna(tus) ni khuaish che ke saglaj GOLD COVER ma najwa arz karse. Em na bane to har family ma si kam az kam ek GOLD COVER arz karse. Em Yaad rakhjo ke Aa to 100 mi milaad che!!

Khuda Taala Moulana Mohammed Burhanuddin Aqa (tus) ne Qayamat laq baaqi rakhjo.

Ameen!

[SAJJAD]

Here is another Kothari “elaan” in stupid dawat Ni jaban to collect more and more gold and money from docile abdes to celebrate the old man’s birthday.

Now a days abdes all over the world are becoming lunatic and involved in all kind of weird activities in which money, time and energy are being wasted to celebrate their master’s so called 100th birthday although he is only 96.

The main reason to celebrate his birthday early could be that Gold Eggs laying burhanuddin may not survive long and his zaadas want to take this golden opportunity to grab as much as they could before it’s too late.

I will request Bro. Porous or somebody to please translate this stupid “elaan” in English.


بعد السلام الجليل
الى العامل الحاضر / مسئول الموضع/ المأمور بخدمة ايام التعبدات المباركة حفظه الله تعالى وسلمه
:

[SAJJAD]

Here is another Kothari “elaan” in stupid dawat Ni jaban to collect more and more gold and money from docile abdes to celebrate the old man’s birthday.

Now a days abdes all over the world are becoming lunatic and involved in all kind of weird activities in which money, time and energy are being wasted to celebrate their master’s so called 100th birthday although he is only 96.

The main reason to celebrate his birthday early could be that Gold Eggs laying burhanuddin may not survive long and his zaadas want to take this golden opportunity to grab as much as they could before it’s too late.

I will request Bro. Porous or somebody to please translate this stupid “elaan” in English


بعد السلام الجليل
الى العامل الحاضر / مسئول الموضع/ المأمور بخدمة ايام التعبدات المباركة حفظه الله تعالى وسلمه
:

[porus]

I will request Bro. Porous or somebody to please translate this stupid “elaan” in English

بعد السلام الجليل
الى العامل الحاضر / مسئول الموضع/ المأمور بخدمة ايام التعبدات المباركة حفظه الله تعالى وسلمه

This is not an elaan but a snippet of address at the head of an elaan.

My translation:

"Following glorious salaams,

To current (present) Aamil/Officer in Charge/Those carrying out orders for service in the days of the blessed ta'abudaat.

May Allah protect him and keep him in peace."

I am assuming the last sentence is for Sayedna.

[SBM]

Can anyone shed light on the preparation of Milad of Syedna in Yemen and Bahrain specially in the light of sectarian war in both countries. Is it a low key affair or the Shezadas and local Aamils are brave enough to stand up and celebrate with all the might. Is any of the ruling class of these two countries are joining the celebrations viz a viz Narendra Modi

['sauga dude]

Milaad Raat Program : Thursday , 24th March 2011 Time 6:00 PM
Milaad Procession will start at 6:00 PM. All mumineen are requested to come on time and join the procession. The procession will be leaded by bearers of Canada Flag and Dawat e Hadiyah flag followed by Burhani Scout Band. Jamali Madrassah children, AeF trustees and members, Shabab members & HQHT members will follow after their respective banners . Janab Amilsaheb will grace the procession at the end along with the mumineen. Mumineen are requested to wear feta & fakhir libaas in the procession. Madrassa Children and mumineen will be given roses , balloons and/or lanterns to hold during the procession. Mumineen are higly encouraged to bring bicycles, motorbikes and decorated cars to enhance the spendour of the procession. Those who have banners or flags or any other items which they can hold or any musical instrument they can play during the procession can do it as per the guidance of Procession Organization team. On this historic occasion of Al Milad e Me’avi, it is duty of each and every mumin to make the procession as grand as possible. Shabab ul iddiz Zahabi is organizing and managing the procession. Any suggestions to enhance the grandeur of the procession are highly welcome and can be emailed.
Procession will end at 7:30 PM. Maghrib Isha namaz & tawasulaat namaz will be followed by Khushi ni Majlis. It’ll commence with tilawat e Qura’an and qasaid. After qasaid recitation, all mumineen will have a chance of reciting madeh or make a takrir for 2 minutes. Mumineen can recite any madeh and in any language, however self composed madeh will be given a preference. Takrir can be based on a shaan of Aqa maula TUS, any mojeza or any personal experiences which has enlightened your life. Mumineen who are interested in reciting a madeh or delivering a takrir should inform Janab Amilsaheb in advance so that a list can be prepared. End moment requests shall not be entertained.
This will be followed by matemi noha and madeh. After sherbet and wadhawani rasam, mumineen can do najwa araz to Janab Amilsaheb. Please do araz of najwa or hadiya which relates to the shaan of Aqa maula TUS. Najwa can in gold geni or fakhir amount. Gold geni is more afzal. Please write your name, address and size of geni or amount on the envelope before doing the araz.
Mumineen & mehmano are invited to a khushi nu jaman thereafter.
Milaad Day Program : Friday , 25th March 2011 Time 1:30 PM
1: 30 PM Tilawat e Suratul Qaif
1:45 PM Salatul Tasbiul Azam
2:00 PM Zohar Asar Namaz
Khushi ni Majlis
Janab Amilsaheb will grace Khushi ni majlis in Julus saqelat . Julus will be preceded by Burhani Scout playing the band.
Mumineen mardo should wear paghri/feto and fakhir libaas in khushi ni majlis. A golden ribbon should be attached to sayas which start from knee length upwards, round the collar and back downwards to knee length. Mumineen bairo should put mehndi on their hands, wear fakhir rida and adorn themselves with fakhir jewellery .
After sherbet, wadhavvani rasam shall be performed. Mumineen can also join wadhavani rasam by bringing their own wadhavani thali. Mumineen who intend to bring their wadhavani thali are requested to inform their names to janab Amilsaheb ensure proper planning.
Mumineen who could not do najawa tus shukr araz on milaad night should definitely do it on milad day. No mumin should remain mehroom from this.
Mumineen will have the azeem sharaf of listening to Kalemaat Nooraniyah in waaz Mubarak thereafter.
Khushi nu jaman will follow maghrib Isha Namaz. All mumineen and mehmano are invited.
It is Janab Amilsaheb’s taqidan farman that all mumineen should take whole day off on milaad day. This announcement is done a week before so that mumineen can plan their day off in advance.
“Aa din ni hurmat aney azeemat ghani che . Aa din ma barakat ghani che . Ibadat ane dua no din che , Barakat lewano din che .Tesi Sagla mumineen mukhleseen si adaban iltemaas chhe ke sagla job thi pura din ni chhutti le. Je sagla bimaar hoi te pan aavani potani puri koshish karse em ummid che. “
Mumineen who have still not registered their amalatut tabbodaat are requested to do it the second phase so that their names are included in Aqa Maula TUS dua mubarak on milaad day. Mumineen who have done niyat of any amal but have still not completed can also register the amal.
Mumineen who have still not paid the unit of $352 are requested to pay at earliest. This is also a part of amal of ayyam ul tabbodaat.
Important :
Janab Amilsaheb will personally do araz of najwa and reports in Hazrat Aaliyah Nooraniyah. Mumineen who have done darees in their homes and in markaz and have taken photographs should send the photos in jpg format to Janab Amilsaheb so that they are also included in the report when araz is done in Aqa maula TUS
Mumineen should have shakaranu ( sweet) in the meals in these days. Milaad na din saghla ek bija ne sakar chakhave and mubarakbadi aapey. Aa dino ma evu koi amal na karey jena thi koi mumin nu dil dukhe and dil maa ranjish paida thai.

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[Conscíous]

Abdes, please don't forget your camera's & remember to video tape everything on this special occasion.. Youtube is your new friend

[ghulam muhammed]

Najwa can in gold geni or fakhir amount. Gold geni is more afzal.

How about offering najwa by way of a dabbi of "khak-e-shifa" ?....... Till now bohras were told that "khak-e-shifa" is very afzal, now it has been replaced with gold next year it may be diamonds.

“Aa din ni hurmat aney azeemat ghani che . Aa din ma barakat ghani che . Ibadat ane dua no din che , Barakat lewano din che .Tesi Sagla mumineen mukhleseen si adaban iltemaas chhe ke sagla job thi pura din ni chhutti le. Je sagla bimaar hoi te pan aavani potani puri koshish karse em ummid che. “

Has anyone heard this type of farman on the birthdays of the Prophet (s.a.w.), Mola Ali (a.s.) or any ahle bayt ? If one sits back and thinks then one may easily conclude that this dai is leaving no stone unturned in his malicous efforts to shift the focus of his followers only towards him and overshadow the personality of even Panjatan Pak (a.s.). Every action of his is proving beyond doubt that this sect is turning into a cult with a one point focus i.e. the current dai.

Mumineen who have still not paid the unit of $352 are requested to pay at earliest. This is also a part of amal of ayyam ul tabbodaat.

No more is ibadat an amal......... now money has replaced ibadat.

Aa dino ma evu koi amal na karey jena thi koi mumin nu dil dukhe and dil maa ranjish paida thai.

How besharam to make such a statement...... after doing the 'amal' of forcing even the poor bohras of mumbra and dharavi to host darees in their respective houses knowing very well that they find it difficult to make both their ends meet and are living below poverty line but these meek abdes are forced to do the same out of fear and for which their hearts are weeping, these crooks have the audacity to make such statements.

wear fakhir rida and adorn themselves with fakhir jewellery .

What according to kothar is "fakhir" rida and jewellery ? A plain cotton rida with no laces or patch work and artificial metal jewellery bought from the feriwalas of crawford market ?

[ghulam muhammed]

On behalf of Fatimid Imam, Molatena Hurratul Malika and Dai Molana Zoeb continued mission of inviting people of other faith to Imaan and converted them to Bohra faith. The missionary activities In India, mainly in Gujarat, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, Burhanpur continued. It is said king Sidhraj Jaysingh of Sidhpur also secretly accepted Bohra faith. Dai means the one who invites nonbelievers into Islamic faith.

Now a days it seems that Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan and other high profile Hindu leaders are bending backward in praise of Bohras. If an effort is made to convince them that Syedna can take them into Jannat, they will accept Bohra faith. It will be another Sidhraj Jaysingh type incident.

On this centenary, if 100 non-Bohras get converted and come into Bohra fold, it will be a great centenary celebration. However Kothar is not focusing on this faith issue and is busy in collecting Gold coins and other Najwa from Bohras.

One of the quiz question should be “Dai na Zaman ma kitna logo Dawat par imaan laya?” Or how many non-Bohras came into Bohra fold during reign of Dai?

[Smart]

Let alone ketla loko ayaa. The question should be ketla loko gaya. Since this dai has taken the reins of the community, 75% of those who were born in Bohra families have left and gone. Is this the mandate / concept of daawat for the present dai?

[guy_sam2005]

Let alone ketla loko ayaa. The question should be ketla loko gaya. Since this dai has taken the reins of the community, 75% of those who were born in Bohra families have left and gone. Is this the mandate / concept of daawat for the present dai?

NOt 75% dude but 99.9%...well thats the ratio of diamonds & coal

[ozmujaheed]

Abdes please explain whether this 100th Milad was the best way to celebrate ?

Let me know if I have got my maths wrong

Bohras centres are in more than 300 locations worlwide

100 days of darees , which means at least 30,000 darees worldwide

Assume each darees was 10 -20 thal we are looking at 300 – 600 lakh thaals of absolute feasting, murgi, ghosht, mithaan, juice, icecream, kharas

Each thaal in India terms is R1500 because in Western countries it is as high as $40 so we are are looking and R450 – 900 million wasted in feasting

On top of it add R2000 per darees Amils salaam which is R60 million salaams

Then let us add sports and functions, In western country each function can easily be $1000 minimum, decorations and costumes. At least 10 in 100 days functions so 3000 functions in total which is $3million or R135million

Now we add najwas, silat and Molas salaam and say extreme ortho Abde which is 25% families worldwide gives, so at least R20,000 Najwa per family that is 25,000 families will have given R500 million

Then 10,000 Abdes decide to fly into Mumbai and assume each will spend R100,000 on travel and expenses which means R1,000 million injected into Airline profits and Mumbai tourism

I have not factored dodgy fund collections, Ziafats and my calculations are modest!

If we add all we are looking at some R2.5 Billion wasted in 100 days of feasting, celebrations and unIslamic rituals.

Yes it is not my money but surely if only Bohras collected that money for charitable cause how many needy Bohras would have benefited...

People like Gulam Mo or S Insaaf if you have figures, how many kids would have the education covered, how many sick Bohras would have serious operations completed, how many poor families would have had a small investment to get them out of poverty such as buying them tailoring goods, micro-finance, What amazes me about the foolish zadas is if they brought out 10,000 families out of their misery they would have 10,000 sabeel and salams paying Abdes and it would be an investment in their own future, but they are greedy and thick !

So $2.5Billion wasted now and Rajaab and Ramzaan is round the corner so another billions will be wasted and another billion collected as Wajebaat and salaams.

Abdes ..let me know if you think your time and money was put to good cause in the last 100days ?

So you have surely bought your Moalas khushi at the billions

[Gulf]

all time I am telling that progs are nothing but are dumbass

give you simple calculation

you need Rs 30,000,000 devide by USD rate Rs 50 means $600,000 which is less than a million Dollar.. so u dumbass need to think othewise and covert half million into iraqi dinars rate then get billions.. happy

[Jamali]

On the contrary, I think less is being spent on the "Man" who has a million or so Bohras all over the world turned into slaves! You have to give it to the person who even at 96(99 or 100 for the fanatics) has made even the professionals bow down to him. He has a hold on their lives, their homes (Huge posters in living rooms as seen in a teens room!) and their money. Its a truly a feat to brain wash a million minds and make them fanatics to a point that they even take him to be "God" on Earth.

I mean with a community ready to give so much, why should he not demand more!!! To the Shazadas, Bhaisahebs Etc grab more as you might not get this goldern opportunity again!!!!

[aziz]

and the prog snake insaaf keeps claiming that we dawoodi bohras do not have any money,why do you progs keep proving wrong again and again ,,as it is he has no credibility left what so ever and now this,he might commit suicide out of shame and frustrations after he sees about 300000 dawoodi bohra visitors from all over the world(including me inshaalah) in mumbai on the day of milad,
if not suicide then he might die of envy

[ghulam muhammed]

and the prog snake insaaf keeps claiming that we dawoodi bohras do not have any money,why do you progs keep proving wrong again and again

Ghaliz,

I can understand your frustration being the reason for jumping into any and every topic and making irrelevant comments but before doing so kindly understand what Insafbhai and others have to say with regard to poverty among bohras.... many live on the brink of poverty line and many live below poverty line. Off course there are filthy rich and the zaadas and the dais are like Bill gates and Warren Buffets of the Fortune 100 wealthiest people. So were Pharoah and Namrud, but even there there was enough poverty amongst their followers.

he might commit suicide out of shame and frustrations after he sees about 300000 dawoodi bohra visitors from all over the world(including me inshaalah) in mumbai on the day of milad,
if not suicide then he might die of envy

Insafbhai will not die of envy but I pray for you that you may not die out of suffocation caused by these herdes of sheep trapped in the dingy lanes of bhendi bazar.

[ghulam muhammed]

NOt 75% dude but 99.9%...well thats the ratio of diamonds & coal

I believe there was a similar ratio during the battle of karbala.

[ozmujaheed]

Ok so I left out the Billions of rupees that will be spent to feast the tens of thousands for the next 5 days

Abdes seriously ..you do not regret the billions you waste in your pursuit of waste and extravagence ?

Which Imam, Diai or Nabi in history celebrated his birthday, annivarsary like this ? This is an extereme but I hope this is the peak after which the next generarion of Bohras will raise their doubts and ask are we really doing something that is acceptable in modern educated society ?

If it was Mukesh ambhani, a bollywood actor or son a Oil Sheikh I could understand...but a religious leader claiming to be the Prophets rep than this astounds me !

Rather than distracting the discussion Abdes please try defending your actions in this waste..

[Jamali]

ozmujaheed,

I doubt any generation of Bohras will raise doubts about More La as from the day they are born, they are converted into slaves, brainwashed and turned into fanatics (read zombies for the sane!) Their life starts from More La and ends with More La. In case you havent noticed, most if not ALL have huge posters hanging in their living rooms akin to idol worship. More La has so much power that Bohras think Almighty ALLAH will not listen to them directly and hence need a mediator like More La who holds the key to Jaanat and despite their worldly sins and lack of belief in Almighty Allah and Islam's principles of being a good muslim; following More La and doing Sajda to him will lead all of them to Janat.

Its a sad state of affairs when people start believing in "GOD ON EARTH!"

[guy_sam2005]

oz,
I dunno about other cities but in my city more than 100 ppl who couldnt afford have been sent to karbala
elderly ppl were given duat ziarat with escorts(all expences paid ofcourse)
those who didnt have proper roofs or bichonu(galeecha) were provided the best
libaas ul anwar were provided for needy
many other such things were done without limelight for obvious reasons
other things such as free medical check up,free eye check up and surgery.
get this point clear dude.u aint the only person on earth who can think logical.............on one hand insaaf says that we guys are poor business men who have no money...on other hand u give statistics of us spending billions.
That clearly shows that only thing u guys interested are is hasad(jealousy).
no realigion is based on hatred.........we dont hate u but u guys hate dai n us day in day out.........u guys say u believe syedna to be ur dai but then also abuse him...so who is directionless us or u......

[master.b00t]

burhanuddin saheb and shajadaas are dhutara and all abdes are lobhi , kemke 7 gana karwa chhe. Gujrati ma ek kehwat chhe ke jya lobhi hoy tya dhutara ..... .. .. ... !

[ozmujaheed]

Guy u may be right however the charity was the duty but the waste was not necessary The wasted money benefited only the smile while as I mentioned into the global economy

I do not hate you as a person but oppose your institution...hate is emotional while resistance and opposition is planned with an objective

[profastian]

NOt 75% dude but 99.9%...well thats the ratio of diamonds & coal

I believe there was a similar ratio during the battle of karbala.

Exactly. so what did you prove you fool

[ultofanatic]

The richer bohras have money. Thing is they need to spend it in a better way beneficial way for the community. How can this advise be "hasad".

The abdes hate the idea of spending their money on anything other than their "cause".

[guy_sam2005]

Guy u may be right however the charity was the duty but the waste was not necessary The wasted money benefited only the smile while as I mentioned into the global economy

I do not hate you as a person but oppose your institution...hate is emotional while resistance and opposition is planned with an objective

Dude its my money i can put it down the drain too......whos gonna decide wats my duty and whats not?
At other times the collection in my city would have been done lil forcefully,but this year there was no need to even ask for it,,,ppl were ready to spend more than expected Willingly....................

[guy_sam2005]

The richer bohras have money. Thing is they need to spend it in a better way beneficial way for the community. How can this advise be "hasad".

The abdes hate the idea of spending their money on anything other than their "cause".

Would u spend your money on me?or even the way i want u to......................

[guy_sam2005]

NOt 75% dude but 99.9%...well thats the ratio of diamonds & coal

I believe there was a similar ratio during the battle of karbala.

YEs ofcourse my friend,Thankyou for honouring us,Those in karbala did their faraz by doin jaan ni khidmat,,,,,,,,weare doin by doin maal ni khidmat n if need be jaan ni bhi....huzurala(tus) has already honoured us to the status of those wit aqa hussain...today dawaat na dushmano like u honourin us too is a previlage.....................

[Smart]

@guy_sam,
Don't delude yourself. You are not the diamonds in the coal mine that you claim here, but the subhumans that you claim everywhere. Is it not your claim that you are abdes of a human being? Does that not make you slaves? How does this make you superior? Actually if we continue using the metaphor that you have claimed, you are the useless dirt, that is thrown away when coal is mined. Or maybe, the ash after burning of the coal.

Used and discarded. Nothing great about that. Nothing to be proud of.