Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:12 am

BooM wrote:Hey humanbeing,
To tell you the truth, I got a little lost reading your post.. I got the part about my posts are provocative and I won't deny it..Not everyone is gifted like you, plus I have to translate from the language I think in, and translate that into english, you see :wink: And I'm not good at sugarcoating :mrgreen: .. And can you please explain the rest of your post, so that I don't misunderstand and maybe reply you back..
Hi Boom
I have mentioned my POV to similar question raised by AZ in Bohra and Reform section / Addressing Abde concern thread. You may refer to the post.

What m I gifted with ?? :-)

and have I sugar coated anything ?

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 am

Hey humanbeing,
humanbeing wrote: I have mentioned my POV to similar question raised by AZ in Bohra and Reform section / Addressing Abde concern thread. You may refer to the post.
okey
humanbeing wrote:What m I gifted with ?? :-)
Your vocabulary :wink:
humanbeing wrote:and have I sugar coated anything ?
hehe.. What I meant was my english grammar isn't good :(

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He can fix even a possessed machine

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:05 pm

He can fix even a possessed machine

In 1984, I was stationed by the Thapar Group in Sidorja (Indonesia) as the finance man to oversee their paper manufacturing assets in that country. Around that time, Huzurala was passing through the region and I casually mentioned this coincidence to Mr Makkar, our general manager. Suddenly he straightened and asked: “Apne mill ki machines pe kisine jadoo-tona kar diya hai. Kya aapke guruji apne machines ko theek kar sakte hai?”

It must have been the conviction in my voice; even though Mr Makkar was scheduled to leave for Germany to negotiate the purchase of another round of machines, he delegated the exercise to invite Huzurala for a plant visit to his wife. I squirmed; Mr and Ms Makkar probably thought that it was simple enough to ask a guruji to casually come to the factory and ‘cleanse’ its spirit; I knew this would be virtually impossible given Huzurala’s schedule, the pressure of the local jamaat to utilize every minute of his stay in their city and my relative anonymity within that jamaat. I kept my mouth shut after that. But my luck ran out; the local newspaper carried a report on Huzurala’s arrival and thereafter, Ms Makkar called to ‘instruct’ me to get Huzurala to the plant. Instruct!

I was stuck. I resolved to seek help from a certain Muzaffarbhai who belonged to the local jamaat. Since he had been allocated a room at the Hotel Elmi for effective ikraam and intezaam (where Huzurala was also staying), I called him. The reception connected me. I heard the phone lift and a voice at the other end answer: “Hu Burhanuddin waat kari rahyo chhu!”

The first second I was confused. And then it struck me. God!

I stuttered. I stammered. In a breathless sentence – probably the fastest I have ever delivered - I told Huzurala about the ‘possessed’ machine. I told him about Mr Makkar. I told him about Ms Makkar. I told him about their faith in his ability. Then silence. Then Huzurala replied slowly: “Tamey Abbasbhai ne olkho chho? Aajey ehni ziaafat chhey. Eh bairo ne saat waagey layi aavjo!”

I floated back to my office.

That evening we rolled out the company’s Mercedes, drove across 8 kms and reached at 7.05 pm. As I entered the doorway looking for Abbasbhai with the introduction that Huzurala had asked me to be present, I encountered something unusual; I noticed a number of people saying hurriedly ‘Husainibhai ne bolaavo!’ and ‘Yahaan Husainibhai kaun chhey?” Huzurala had left word!

When we went in, Ms Makkar thought I would swing my magic and Huzurala would immediately say yes. I brought her down to earth; I said in all probability, I would be ineffective in doing anything but if she tendered the request and stuck to it, there could still be some hope. And sure enough, Huzurala rightfully indicated an acute paucity of time – he was in Surabaya for only two days. But now that Ms Makkar had seen the presence value that this guruji possessed, it was going to take a giant to budge her from her request. Ms Makkar pleaded with her hands folded, she touched Huzurala’s feet and then when nothing worked, bent and caught hold of Huzurala’s knees without letting them go. Ekdum ari gayi.

Finally, Huzurala consented. He would visit our factory after the ziyafat en route to Elmi Hotel. And so it happened: Huzurala arrived at the paper factory, the production manager who had no faith in godmen (naastik) took one look at Huzurala and pronounced ‘farishta’, Huzurala was led to the ‘possessed’ machine, recited a dua and then told me “Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo; kaaley 1.52-ey Imam Husain na niyaaz no halwo banaavjo and worker-o ney jamaarjo!”

I escorted Huzurala back to the hotel. He told me: “Aa company ne na mukjo!”

The next day, I received the taveez at the airport, it was placed just where I had been instructed and gradually, the large paper machine turned less temperamental. As machine expenditure declined and production increased, it started generating profits for the unit and company. Mr Makkar returned and was taken ill, dictated a letter for shifaa to Huzurala in India, was asked to do sadaqa and thereafter improved. Word reached LM Thapar, our chairman in India, and he is reported to have said, “Mujhe bhi ek taveez mangva do!”

And to think that none of these momentous things would have happened had it not been for an incompetent receptionist at Elmi Hotel who unthinkingly transferred a call for Muzaffarbhai to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb!

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:17 pm

Life is too short,dont choose to be a slave.

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:35 pm

BooM wrote:Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo
It would be interesting to know as to which taaviz were put in the 4 corners of mazun's house by which the mazun lost all his intelligence and meekly surrendered to the zaadas without any resistance. :mrgreen:

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:49 pm

Haha ^^ :mrgreen:

My next experiment will be with the "taaviz", if this kissing the picture of our dai (tus) right before going to sleep and having his picture over my bed doesn't help :(

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:14 pm

been for an incompetent receptionist at Elmi Hotel who unthinkingly transferred a call for Muzaffarbhai to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb!
That incompetent receptionist had ILHAM to connect him
BTW Did Mr. Makkar :!: and his wife Mrs. Makkar :!: converted to abde DB or still practicing Hinduism?

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:56 pm

Any wajebat in Hinduism.

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by profastian » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:45 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
BooM wrote:Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo
It would be interesting to know as to which taaviz were put in the 4 corners of mazun's house by which the mazun lost all his intelligence and meekly surrendered to the zaadas without any resistance. :mrgreen:
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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by like_minded » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:01 am

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by like_minded » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:55 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:
like_minded wrote:As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.
Mustafa

I want your answer, forget about others.

I am confident that you are not a blind follower of Syedna like the others on this forum.

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:06 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:
like_minded wrote:As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.
Come on MN
Be a MAN and tell us what like minded asked you, YOU ASKED ME THE SAME ON THE OTHER THREAD (categorizing Proggies) AND I DID REPLY, COME ON BE A MAN ARE NOT YOU and follow your own advice and face the consequences as may be?

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:30 pm

Hey Humanbeing,
Now you tell me, how are you going to spread awareness, when the person on the receiving end, is not willing to open up?? And the answer Mustafa is giving us below is a stander answer I receive whenever I've tried to interact with bohras..
mustafanalwalla wrote:So really, please dont mind it but i do not wish to discuss it or His standing as a spiritual leader in my life, mind and heart
It's because of this bond, people can't see the complete picture.. And when they are discontent, they'll start complaining and point fingers at everyone apart from their spiritual leader, who is the reason for their misery.. This bond and all the brainwashing we have been feed from childhood, makes it's unimaginable for us to think or suspect that this spiritual leader is a conman, criminal, hypocrite or a thieve.. And those who suspect him of all this, but still are in denial, are in the worst position because they are half awake but at the same time, they want to be part of this delusion and the feeling of being the special and chosen one, which is hammered into us..

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:39 am

Ok, for me a spiritual leader is one who shows the right path, which is what i believe our Dai does.
So I don't understand. For a muslim, the right path is the Quran. You said that you are completely ignorant of what the Quran says, so how could the Dai have shown you the right path and still managed to keep you ignorant of the Quran?
that's because i feel that some of the farmaan issued are not issuued by Him, but by those at lower levels.
That is the beauty of a Dai less Islam. The Quran is the farmaan from the ultimate authority. There is no one at a lower level who can issue any farmaan that we can doubt as to where it came from.
Like i said earlier, this is purely my personal opinion. it has not been thrust upon me by anyone.
Unfortunately for you, you just lost your biggest excuse for some kind of wiggle room on the day of judgment.
It kind of reminds me of this scene from 3 idiots where shraman joshi is being interviewed in a wheelchair and he says that he really learnt to stand on his own 2 feet only after breaking them, so he is not going to loose his new found identity and attitude.... same thing here.
So the best thing the Dai gave to you was a couple of broken legs?

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:22 am

HEy Mustafa,
As you might have noticed, I'm not forcing or ridiculing you, because you sound quite honesty about your feelings and I appreciate that you have opened up..

I'm a little confused because you are talking in a cloudy language, like the American Indians did a few century ago.. You are not a blind follower of our Dai and you don't believe He is omniscient but at the same time, you are saying he is more then mortal (Human).. What is he then??

Since you don't believe he is omniscient, than all the miracles/ Mojizas he preforms are just a big fraud and all those people revealing about those mojizas are just fanciful and full of falsity??

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:10 pm

BooM wrote:HEy Mustafa,
As you might have noticed, I'm not forcing or ridiculing you, because you sound quite honesty about your feelings and I appreciate that you have opened up..

I'm a little confused because you are talking in a cloudy language, like the American Indians did a few century ago.. You are not a blind follower of our Dai and you don't believe He is omniscient but at the same time, you are saying he is more then mortal (Human).. What is he then??

Since you don't believe he is omniscient, than all the miracles/ Mojizas he preforms are just a big fraud and all those people revealing about those mojizas are just fanciful and full of falsity??
Do you even know what omniscient means? What does mojizas and miracles have to do with omniscience?

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:31 pm

I meant deity and thanks for pointing out my mistake :wink:

Mustafa,
Just look away from my last paragraph..

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Hole in his heart

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Unread post by Conscíous » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:54 am

By Zenab Bai Quresh Ali Bag Wala

My son Abdeali was having hole in his heart, right from his birth. Firstly i took him to Ahmedabad, where doctor suggested that when the child will grow 4years old, then he will be operated. Then one day i saw Aqa Maula(TUS) in my dream and Maula told me that " taara farzand abdeali na heart maa hole nathi."

Then i made arzi in Hazarat Aaliya that "maaru farzand 4 saal nu thayi chuku che, Maula aap operation nee raza farmao." Then in answer i got "Do not do operation now." After getting such answer i drop the idea of operation. Then, when my son grew 8years old, the size of the hole increases, and there were swellings in the nerves. The situation was like "no-treatment" situation. Doctors also refused by saying that we will not do any operation because there is no gurantee that your son will be alright or alive after operation.

We again made arzi in Huzurala. Maula farmayu "maari dua na saathe raza che, operation karawa ma aawe." Then we took my son to Ahmedabad, where we araz one qurbani in darbar of Sayedna Qutubuddin Shaheed. Janab there came to know about our problem, so he gave us the piece of Gilaaf and told me that "operation na waqt Khake-shifa chakhaw jo ane Turbat dhoye lu pani pilaw jo, inshallah operation kamyaab thaase. Aa sagla amal na sabab ane Maula nee Dua na sabab 10hrs nu operation 5hrs maa thayi gayu.

Today abdeali is 11years old and totally fit and fine just because of the dua and raza of Aqa Maula(TUS).In end we pray to God that grant our Maula an eternal and healthy life....Aameen!!!!!!

http://udaipurjamaat.net/infoblog/mojiza2.php

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:30 pm

mustafanalwalla wrote:
i have experienced a miracle, first hand,.... I called out to my Maula for help, and it came my way.
mustafanalwalla wrote:

the toilet paper i use to wipe my ass too :D
perhaps this is another miracle you have experienced too, first hand, whereby instead of washing your ass as all devout bohras do, you use toilet paper???!!! astaghferullah!!!

there is no saying what faith will make an abde do, besides faith cannot be quantified, esp in nalwala's case.

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:53 pm

^
:lol: :P :lol:

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:19 pm

Hei mustafa,,,
You are under minding the ability of your brain and letting others take advantage of this my friend.. You are letting your feeling and your wishful thinking influence your judgment.. Inshallah, One day and believe me, that day will come when your faith will be really tested and you'll wake up from your naiveness and ignorances and stop believing in all this bullshit, which is only just to deceive, enslave and commit robbery..

I guess, we reformist will just have to poke/question even more of all this fanciful and ridiculous stories, so you guys might wake up... And we all have our methods and mine is humor, so don't take it personally :wink:

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The Power of Mind and the Promise of Placebo

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Unread post by Conscíous » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:48 pm

The Power of Mind and the Promise of Placebo
By WRF in Alternative Therapies

For decades, the gold standard of medical research has been the double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial. You give one group of patients a medicine you want to test, and another group a dummy pill that has no active ingredients. Neither the patients nor doctors know who is getting which.

Placebo trials are used to tell researchers whether a tested drug has any healing effect beyond that which occurs a certain percentage of time when people take an inert pill. A patient’s belief in a pill – a supposed medicine, but chemically innocuous – is thought to activate their body’s healing powers.

I am fascinated that a major debate erupted when a group of doctors discussed the immoral and unethical aspects of utilizing a placebo. Their reasoning was that regular and beneficial medicine was being withheld from a patient.

The co-authors of an article addressing this topic, Kenneth Rothman, a Ph.D. From Boston University School of Public Health, and Karin Michels of Harvard School of Public Health, both stated that to give a patient a placebo, that has a ‘known efficacy of zero,’ was highly unethical.

Some other medical doctors and researches have jumped into the debate, stating that placebos are just a nuisance variable.

There has been sharp disagreement on this point, due to the fact that medical literature includes a great deal of testimony that the placebo effect routinely works 30 percent of the time, with Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard stating that it may work up to 90 percent of the time.

Overlooked by its critics in this discussion, is the fact that studies that have utilized placebos have produced some rather remarkable, and at the same time unexplainable, results. Rather than looking at it as a nuisance, we should be looking at the placebo as a key to ascertain a remarkable phenomenon that seems to be a part of the human psyche.

(The remainder of this article will present a number of interesting placebo statistics that have been recorded in the medical literature. Within this article, footnotes will not be used nor the studies listed, but all are from medical literature.) Here is a wonderful presentation of the power of our minds and our belief systems.

“In the 1950′s angina pectoris, recurrent pain in the chest and left arm due to decreased blood flow to the heart, was commonly treated with surgery. Rather than doing the customary surgery, which involved tying off the mammary artery, some resourceful doctors cut patients open and then simply sewed them back up again. The patients who received a sham surgery reported as much relief as the patients who had the full surgery.”

“The effectiveness of a placebo in any given circumstance also varies greatly. In nine double-blind studies comparing placebos to aspirin, placebos proved to be 54 percent as effective as the actual analgesic. From this, one might expect that placebos would be even less effective when compared to a much stronger painkiller such as morphine, but this is not the case. In six double-blind studies placebos were found to be 56 percent as effective as morphine in relieving pain.”

“In a recent study of a new kind of chemotherapy, 30 percent of the individuals in the control group, the group given placebos, lost their hair.”

“In a study of a tranquilizer called mephenesin, researchers found that 10-20 percent of the test subjects experience negative side effects – including nausea, itchy rash, and heart palpitations – regardless of whether they were given the actual drug or a placebo.”

In the book, The Psychobiology of Mind-Body Healing, written by Ernest Lawrence Rossi, we find the following mention about the 55-60% placebo connection, “In other words, the effectiveness of placebo compared to standard doses of different analgesic drugs under double-blind circumstances seems to be relatively constant…it is worth noting that this 56% effectiveness ration is not limited to placebo versus analgesic drugs. It is also found in double-blind studies of non-pharmacolgical insomnia treatment techniques (58% from 14 studies) and psychotropic drugs for the treatment of depression such as tricyclics (59% from 93 studies reviewed by Morris & Beck, 1974) and lithium (62% from 13 studies reviewed in Marini, Sheard, Bridges and Wagner, 1976). Thus, it appears that placebo is about 55-60% as effective as active medications irrespective of the potency of these active medications.”

“In a study of morphine, there was a 50% pain reduction in 75% of the patients treated. The placebo group had a 50% pain reduction in 36% of the patients.”

“In 1980 there were over 1000 articles dealing with placebos. Placebos had a high rate of activity in the areas of cough, mood swings, diabetes, anxiety, asthma, sarcoma, dermatitis, headaches, rheumatoid arthritis, radiation sickness, Multiple Sclerosis and Parkinson’s.”

“A group of patients were told they were given LSD when in fact they were given the placebo. They had all the physiological effects noted with LSD.”

“Dr. David Sobel, a placebo specialist with Kaiser hospital told the following: ‘a doctor was treating one of his asthma patients with a new drug. This new potent medicine worked within minutes. When the patient had the next attack the doctor gave the placebo. The man complained it didn’t work. Then the doctor received a letter that stated the first pill was actually a placebo that was sent by mistake.’”

“Ipecac is a substance know to always induce vomiting. A 28-year-old female who was suffering from two straight days of nausea and vomiting was given 10cc of Ipecac syrup and told it was a new drug that stopped vomiting. In twenty minutes the vomiting had stopped completely. Her stomach showed normal contractive activity.”

“During a study for headache, 120 our of 199 patients receiving the placebo obtained relief. In a test of Clofibrate versus placebo for cholesterol level and cardiovascular mortality, the placebo outperformed the drug.”

“Placebos effectiveness is in proportion to what the doctor and the patient think they are using. Two placebo pills are better than one and an injection always seems to be more effective than a pill. Placebo capsules are more effective than tablets. When placebos are administered, the yellow and orange are great for mood manipulators, the dark red as a sedative; white as pain killers and lavender as hallucinogens.”

“In a back pain sham therapy of four years, 40% of the placebo group improved.”

“In a sham tooth-grinding surgical procedure, there was a 64% total symptom remission.”

“Doctors Seidel and Abrams found that a hypodermic of saline was as effective as vaccines for chronic rheumatoid arthritis.”

“In a study for Raynaud’s Syndrome, utilizing an apparatus with saline and the clicking of dials, every case using the placebo improved. Six had excellent improvement and one patient great improvement after one year.”

“In postoperative patients, 14% had pain reduction using a placebo.”

“Psychologist Bruno Klopfer was treating a man named Wright who had advanced cancer of the lymph nodes. All standard treatments had been exhausted and Wright appeared to have little time left. His neck, armpits, chest, abdomen, and groin were filled with tumors the size of oranges, and his spleen and liver were so enlarged that two quarts of milky fluid had to be drainedout of his chest every day.

Wright heard about an exciting new drug called Krebiozen, and he begged his doctor to let him try it. At first the doctor refused because the drug was being tried on people with a life expectancy of at least three months. Finally the doctor gave in and gave Wright an injection of Krebiozen on Friday, but in his heart of hearts he did not expect Wright to last the weekend.

“To his surprise, on the following Monday he found Wright out of bed and walking around. Klopfer reported that his tumors had ‘melted like snowballs on a hot stove’ and were half their original size. Ten days after Wright’s first treatment, he left the hospital and was, as far as his doctors could tell, cancer free. When he entered the hospital he had needed an oxygen mask to breathe, but when he left, he was well enough to fly his own plane at 12,000 feet with no discomfort.

“Wright remained well for about two months, but then articles began to appear asserting that Krebiozen actually had no effect on cancer of the lymph nodes. Wright, who was rigidly logical and scientific in his thinking, became very depressed, suffered a relapse, and was readmitted to the hospital. This time his physician decided to try an experiment. He told Wright that Krebiozen was every bit as effective as it had seemed, but that some of the initial supplies of the drug had deteriorated during shipping. He explained, however, that he had a new highly concentrated version of the drug and could treat Wright with this. The physician used only plain water and went through an elaborate procedure before injecting Wright with the placebo.

“Again the results were dramatic. Tumor masses melted, chest fluid vanished, and Wright was quickly back on his feet and feeling great. He remained symptom-free for another two months, but then the AMA announced that a nationwide study of Krebiozen had found the drug worthless for the treatment of cancer. This time Wright’s faith was completely shattered. His cancer blossomed anew and he died two days later.”
(Brono Klopfer, Psychological Variables in Human Cancer, Journal of Prospective Techniques 31, 1957, pp. 331-40.)

I don’t believe that the use of placebos is immoral or unethical. In reality, it seems that the medical profession’s lack of understanding and utilization of the mechanism of the placebo in the healing process is tragic, shortsighted and cowardly. Cowardly in the aspect that it has been far easier for doctors to simply say that the placebo response is worthless, and nothing more than someone’s wishful thinking or trickery of the mind. The bottom line is the response; for whatever reason, placebos seem to work… patients get better.

An interesting statistic has shown that virtually all newly introduced surgical techniques show a decrease in success over time. Is this also a placebo response?

http://www.wrf.org/alternative-therapie ... lacebo.php

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miracles of aqa moula

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Unread post by Conscíous » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:30 pm

The evolution of Global Toilet can be simply described as miracle orchestrated by the nazaraat & ehsaan of Aqa Moula (TUS) on mumineen of westerrn world. Mamluke Sayedna has no prior experience in design of toilets, the gradual flowing in of thoughts (plus useful tips & suggestions of Toronto Mumineen brothers) then actions & finally purposeful result has immensely strengthened the akeedo for our mushfik bawa. May allah subhanhu grant our Aqa Moula (TUS) a long and healthy life till taa roz e kayamat.

http://www.aqmarconsultant.com/Globalto ... nbagat.htm

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miracles of aqa moula

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Unread post by Conscíous » Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:04 pm

Ummulkeram M. Aliasghar Lehri – Bahrain

My husband had been investing money with one Hindu businessman, Jayesh, on a regular basis. He would in turn share the profits regularly. As time passed, my husband gained confidence on Jayesh and eventually the sum of investment grew into a big amount.

Later, Jayesh’s brother Rakesh came along and Jayesh handed over the running of the business to his brother as he had to travel for a few months.

Within few weeks we learnt that Rakesh was a dishonest person and has fled the country with all the cash he could collect from various investors including my husbands’ hard earned money! Later we also came to know that owing to Rakesh’s doings, Jayesh did not wish to return!

I was shattered…as this was all the savings we had in the world!

I immediately took Mannats and recited various Dua’s and prayers with the (hopeless) hope of recovering our lost money. Also we did Arzis in Huzur Aala(TUS).

As months passed, our stress and worry of not getting anything back increased. I was confused as to what to do and what not to do.

Ayyam-ut-Tabudaat was approaching of Moula’s Salgirah Mubarak. I stood in front of Moula’s photo frame and said“Mola, tamej hamara paisa pacha apavso…mane yakeen che…tamari salgirah no khusi no din na ave te pehla tame mane khusi na samachar pohchavso ke hamaro gayelo mal mali gayo..”

It was the night of 18th Rabi-ul-Akher when Aqa Moula(TUS) mara sapna ma padhara. I did Qadambosi and with tears in my eyes did arzi “Aqa ap Dua’a karo ke mara sohar na mehnat na paisa pacha mali jaai. “ Mola ye farmayu “Dikra ghanu muskil che.”

I said “Mola ap chaho to koi kaam mushkil nathi…ap dua’a karo ke hamari mushkil aasan thai” Then Moula looked up and raised his hands and made dua’a and then looked at me as said “Khuda tamari mushkil sahel kari aapjo..” At this point my eyes opened and I sat up in my bed sweating.

Next day, we came to know from a friend that Jayesh has come back to Bahrain! We immediately went to meet him. He said that as this was his brother’s doing and he has no involvement in it. But after a long discussion and persuasion, he agreed to return all our money in due course of time!

Eventually we did receive all our money back from him…which is truly a miracle of our Bawa Shafique! Without his vasila, we had surly lost all hope…

Amazingly, after Jayesh re-paid our money, he left Bahrain for good..it was as if Moula had made him come here only for us!

SUBHANALLAH!!

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Re: miracles of aqa moula

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:16 pm

BooM wrote:
I stood in front of Moula’s photo frame and said“Mola, ...... when Aqa Moula(TUS) mara sapna ma padhara.......
At this point my eyes opened and I sat up in my bed sweating.

SUBHANALLAH!!
welcome to the abde world of kufr and shirk. was islam really sent for such undeserving jaahils??!!

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:28 pm

Zulfiqar,
the next Mojiza is dedicated to you :mrgreen: ..

You'll love it :lol:

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miracles of aqa moula

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:28 pm

Defying age as to what science think

Yesterday I had a chance to attend a confernece on Alzheimer’s disease in my University, and recently i had seen the most beautiful pics of Huzurala tus doing the zabihat of camel in Dubai and then in Bombay as well. I have something to share with you all in regard to the above two things seminar and Huzurala (tus). And the comment of a scientist on Huzurala (tus).

As the seminar progressed one thing that really caught my attention was the statastical finding ( i know Alzheimer’s disease has many causes but this is the statistical finding )
that first i would like to share with you.
Studies have shown that the greatest known risk for developing Alzheimer’s is increasing age. As many as 10 percent of all people 65 years of age and older have Alzheimer’s. As many as 60 percent of all people 85 and older have the disease. A family history of the disease is another known risk.

And when i saw this statistic on the slide show I could not control myself form thinking and all i could say to myself was allah o akber and Wa tav vil ellahi umr burhanedin....

Because i said to myself not many young people have this strenght to do the zabihat of even a sheep, which requires steady hand, and huzurala tus did the zabihat at this age. Belive me this is nothing but one of the endless shanaat of Huzurala (tus).

We had a complete discusson of DVT ( or what usually is refered as Economy class syndrome) and they were saying that when a person sits steady without any moment for few hours the blood starts to clot in his leg and it reaches the heart and can cause a stroke. And again I said ohh Allah this is Maula's and only my Maula's shaan that Huzurala can sit on the takhte imaami for five hours without moving or changing sides and continuously delivering sermons. Moreover I hve never ever come across any mumineen who goes out of Masjid where Maula is doing Waaz and heard him or her saying the he got Deep Vein thrombosis ( the stat for DVT is "A deep vein thrombosis (DVT) is a blood clot (thrombus) that develops in a deep vein, usually in the leg. This can happen if the vein is damaged or if the flow of blood slows down or stops. About one in 2,000 people in the UK develops a DVT each year".) But he waks out of Masjid refresh and feeling more and more energetic and looking more radiant from looking at the noor of imam us zaman (a.s.) in the chera e anwar of his beloved Dai tus. Isn't this also a miracle, no i will not say miracle but does not this show how much Maula (tus) take care of every individual mumenin and to which extent the even we become a miracle for science, because when we go to Waaz we all know how we manage to get a place in masjid because we want to accomodate as many ppl as possible but it is only maula (tus) who take care of each and every one so that everybody walk out feeling more good rather then complaning of cramps or DVT.

After the seminar i went and talk to Dr. Alister (he is author of book "Effects of age on human body" and the person who was giving the seminar) I told him about Huzurala tus and the very hectic scehdule that Maula(tus) follows and the age of Maula tus and he was not ready to belive me. He had his laptop with him and I said I would like to show you something on internet and i opened malumaat.com page and i showed him the pictures of our Bawa Shafiq (tus) and this is what he said when he looked at the most loveliest face of our Maula (tus) and facts accomapnying the pictures.

" He is defying age as to what science think, if i would not have seen this website with my eyes and also that he has celebrated his 92 birthday with all these dignitaries. I would have taken your words as crap. I don't belive in God, I am athethist. If i would have belive in God I would have sweared by God and said that this is the only miracle that I have seen"

Then after seeing this website he invited me to have dinner with him to know more about Huzurala tus and during the subsequent discussion and what our beliefs are he said " This is one of the most logical belief i have ever come across" and then i do not know what made him said this thing, but it is my belief, damn to my belief it is indeed a fact that just because he saw the chera of Huzurala (tus) he said this thing which even suprised me he said " Dr. Mohmmad represent true face of islam, the religion as it should be as oppose to OBL"(Osma bin laden)
.


May allah keep his miracle, the noor of Islam and noor of Imam in the libaas ul anwar of sehat and aafiyat till the day of qayamat.

As the madeh rightly says " Aap maula (tus) ni gulami ma hamari shaan che, Aqa maula(tus) par hamra jaan o dil qurban che"

May allah keep Burhanedin aqa (tus) amongst us eid after eid, because the day of Eid is celebrated as Eid because of our Maula.

I know there must be many error and qusoor in the above email. I would be happy to receive any constructive criticism and feedback. I would request ppl to share their such experience on this mailing list or atleast with me.

Ending with the dua that is in the heart of every mumin

" Wa Tav will ellahi Umr Burhanedin nekal,

Lazi Ha Zamin Gure shoune afanina"

Abde Syedna (tus)

Juzer Jaffer

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:43 pm

BooM wrote:
Zulfiqar,
the next Mojiza is dedicated to you :mrgreen: ..
OMG!! so what am i supposed to do next, do 100 hours matam??!

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Re: Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:44 pm

Why not?? You might just find your lost faith again :mrgreen:

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Re: miracles of aqa moula

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:15 pm

BooM wrote:Defying age as to what science think

Yesterday I had a chance to attend a confernece on Alzheimer’s disease in my University, and recently i had seen the most beautiful pics of Huzurala tus doing the zabihat of camel in Dubai and then in Bombay as well. I have something to share with you all in regard to the above two things seminar and Huzurala (tus). And the comment of a scientist on Huzurala (tus).

As the seminar progressed one thing that really caught my attention was the statastical finding ( i know Alzheimer’s disease has many causes but this is the statistical finding )
that first i would like to share with you.Studies have shown that the greatest known risk for developing Alzheimer’s is increasing age. As many as 10 percent of all people 65 years of age and older have Alzheimer’s. As many as 60 percent of all people 85 and older have the disease. A family history of the disease is another known risk.
After the seminar i went and talk to Dr. Alister (he is author of book "Effects of age on human body" and the person who was giving the seminar)
Abde Syedna (tus)
Juzer Jaffer
http://z4.invisionfree.com/tasneemania/ ... ic=67&st=0&


The most amazing part is that he went to attend Alzheimer conf and ends up learning about DVT that itself is a Mojiza :P
Seems Juzer Jaffer himself is suffering from Alzheimer as he forgot what he started the conf and what he end up with :lol: also when I googled I can not find any book by so called author.
As far as doing Zahibat and having steady hands has nothing to do with Alzheimer but with Parkinsonism.