Mansoos' Pearls Of Wisdom: Imam Hussain And His Ghoda.

[Bohra spring]

Are the ages credible facts or imagination of devotees?

Before we conclude was the length of a year during Adam AS the same as a Lunar or Gregorian calendar year ?

Scientific basis living to 130 years is possible but not 930 current years ie is made up of 365 days

Prophets were humans not super natural beings, Allah himself said thy are the best of character and form

So let us do more research and analysis ?

Who had kept a record of their age ?

[Al Zulfiqar]

The Ages of Prophet:
Prophet Adam Alaihi Salaam is: 930 years
Prophet Noah-Nuh Alaihi Salaam is: 950 years
Prophet Shoaib Alaihi Salaam is: 882 years
Prophet Saleh - Saaleh Alaihi Salaam is: 586 years
Prophet Idris - Idrees Alaihi Salaam is: 356 years
Prophet Hud Alaihi Salaam is: 265 years
Prophet Zakariya Alaihi Salaam is: 207 years
Prophet Ibrahim Alaihi Salaam is: 195 years
The Prophet Sulaiman - Solomon Alaihi Salaam is: 150 years
Prophet Ayyub - Ayyoob Alaihi Salaam is: 146 years
Prophet Ya'qub - Ya'qoob Alaihi Salaam is: 139 years
The Prophet Ishmael – Ismail Alaihi Salaam is: 137 years

astakferullah! so none of them lived ta qayamat ba sehato aafeeyat conducting their followers in purjosh maatam 24/7??!

[ghulam muhammed]

For those Brain Alive Abdes who have stopped breathing justice and tend to suffocate when there is an air of honesty around them, here is a Mark Twain Quote to digest:

"In the matter of slavish imitation, man is the monkey's superior all the time. The average man is destitute of independence of opinion. He is not interested in contriving an opinion of his own, by study and reflection, but is only anxious to find out what his neighbor's opinion is and slavishly adopt it."

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro gm,

you are way off the mark. in the case of abdes, they dont have to form any opinions, neither do they have to blindly imitate their neighbours. their opinions are MADE FOR THEM by mola and his zaadas. this makes them the most superior of all creation.

[Safiuddin]

Now wait just a minute. According to Mumin DB the life span of the prophets' is decreasing as we move forward through time. OK.
So based on this logic, it would make sense that the Prophet Muhammad only lived until his early sixties (62-63).
And Burhanuddin is at LEAST at the level of a Prophet. So by this logic, he should have expired a long time ago, yet
he continues to live.
So that can ONLY mean 1 thing = The prayers of 1.5 million Bohras are actually being heard, and in a remarkable change of
policy and procedure, God is extending the life of Burhanuddin until taa roze qayaamat. Got it.

OK, it all makes sense now. I was so confused, but mumin DB made it clear.

[KhalifatulRahman]

Dear Saifudding,

Now wait just a minute. According to Mumin DB the life span of the prophets' is decreasing as we move forward through time. OK.

This shows how big fool u r - by the ways its in decreasing order - Iam not sure though abt who came earlier and later -

Dear KhalifulRehman,

I tot u had little brain - but that shows here - when u say why did Prophet Mohd didnt live for so long ??

do u even know the reason why Imam Hussain sacrificed his life ?? If Prophet was alive - this wud never happend -

Please deeepen ur knowledge !!

Humza (s) and many sahabis are killed? even while Muhammed(s) was alive right?

and what it has to do with life of Muhammed(s) with imam hussain(s) martyr?

so why exactly HUSSAIN(s) had to die?

[anajmi]

Are the ages credible facts or imagination of devotees?

Before we conclude was the length of a year during Adam AS the same as a Lunar or Gregorian calendar year ?

Scientific basis living to 130 years is possible but not 930 current years ie is made up of 365 days

Prophets were humans not super natural beings, Allah himself said thy are the best of character and form

So let us do more research and analysis ?

Who had kept a record of their age ?

The age of Nuh (as) has been pointed to in the Quran.

29:14 And, indeed, We sent forth Noah unto his people, and he dwelt among them a thousand years bar fifty; and then the floods over­whelmed them while they were still lost in evildoing:

[badrijanab]

29:14 And, indeed, We sent forth Noah unto his people, and he dwelt among them a thousand years bar fifty; and then the floods over­whelmed them while they were still lost in evildoing:

Q) Does stanza above categorically and precisely confirm about individual (personal) age of Prophet Nooh (a)? or are you deriving Nooh's (a) age which is subject to your limited knowledge?

> Dwelt among them 950 years; (semin colon) "and then" the flood came - does flood came after Nooh passed away? No. We know for sure flood came when Nooh was alive and was among his people.

[anajmi]

badrijanab,

We have a clear understanding of your understanding of the Quran. It is flawed. You do not have to demonstrate it on every post. Most Mufassireen agree that Nuh (as) did dawah for 950 years "and then the floods overwhelmed them". The bottom line is that he lived for 950 years or more. Read the message instead of trying to calculate his age based upon your flawed understanding. The point being made is that he lived for a very long time doing dawah to his people and he still wasn't able to turn even his own son.

Determination of his exact age is not going to help you get rid of your lying habits and neither is it going to help you determine your true Imam. You will need Oxford and Webster for that.

[ghulam muhammed]

Noah's total age is not mentioned in the Holy Quran but it's stated that He PBUH had spent 950 years in calling his people to believe in Allah.

( We (once) sent Noah to his people, and he tarried among them a thousand years less fifty: but the Deluge overwhelmed them while they (persisted in) sin).
Holy Quran,(29:14).

[Safiuddin]

Dear Saifudding,

Now wait just a minute. According to Mumin DB the life span of the prophets' is decreasing as we move forward through time. OK.

This shows how big fool u r - by the ways its in decreasing order - Iam not sure though abt who came earlier and later -

Mr. Mumin DB (Does DB mean Daim Bahaq? or Domni Bengali?),

Of course you are not sure who came earlier and later. How could you possibly know, since you are a product of
Bohri "education" and sabaq-baq. I'll bet if you were told that Burhanuddin's excrement is holy and barkati, you'd
smear it on your face. Then the American term s*it - faced would make sense.

Yes, it's quite clear to see who is a big fool.

[Aymelek]

Br. Ayemelek,

Can you confirm the age of the talking horse with reference from Bohra dawat books. As according to waez of Mufaddal saheb it should be more than 60 years of age.

Br. Asad,

Just confirmed with one of the learned Sheikhs from Bohras, as per Bohras dawat books the horse was gifted by Prophet to Hussain, hence its age would be in late 50's i guess.

With respect to talking horse, this is some of the arguements given by him:

Some of the facts mentioned in Quran cannot be or have not yet been proven by Science, so these facts would have been dismissed as myth or legend had it not been for Quran, such as:

- Jibrael passing on the revealations to Prophet Mohammed
- Mariyam deliverying baby boy without a biological father
- Baby jesus talking from the crib
- Prophet Suleiman speaking to birds and animals,

Though i do not know the truth, I believe it is not of much importance, the stand Hussain took is what matters the most.

[asad]

50 years old talking horse

If we dont have prove for tales in Quran so can we invent anything from past and when asked justify it with "go and prove talking birds and Animals to SUleman".

I tried once asking to a Jamea ustad that when has Jibrael visited anyone else other than Prophets, He knew why i was asking this question so he dodged it. So how far can these stories of Jibrael bringing forces of nature to Husain can be agreed to and than Jibrael crying on hearing what is Khuda ni marzi, This is not just an end, hundreds of such stories are recited in every waez which if counter checked or scrutinized for even a min will come out to be fabrications or complete lie, all these stories are just fictional account of an important occasion in Islamic history.

[KhalifatulRahman]

even if HUSSAIN(s) didnt had a talking horse or an angel to talk with him, HUSSAIN(s) was a great legend and I will respect him here and hereafter for the stand he took against the injustice and tyranny.

that is what matters to me.....

[KhalifatulRahman]

and I think bhai mufaddal need to concentrate more on core belief of HUSSAIN(s).

instead of making stories to make abde cry.....

[ghulam muhammed]

Some more pearls of wisdom............ The Mansoos theory of the day Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) breathed his last :-

http://youtu.be/WutUBhxYwj0

[Safiuddin]

I love the fake crying. Muffy might consider a career in acting - oh, wait, he has already done that.

[think]

Muffi bhai tame tamare ummat ne gunah ma sukam rakho cho. firaun ye to pota ne khuda kai ne ehni tamam ummat ne gunehgar keda. Have tame tu firaun se sabak hasil karu. sukam gunah karavo cho ane malik ul moat ne kau cho ke ummat na gunah maaf kari de.

[ghulam muhammed]

Mansoos wants Allah (swt) to give Tauhfiq to Alavi Bohras :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJUFDMlHg8U

[ammar786]

The Ages of Prophet:
Prophet Adam Alaihi Salaam is: 930 years
Prophet Noah-Nuh Alaihi Salaam is: 950 years
Prophet Shoaib Alaihi Salaam is: 882 years
Prophet Saleh - Saaleh Alaihi Salaam is: 586 years
Prophet Idris - Idrees Alaihi Salaam is: 356 years
Prophet Hud Alaihi Salaam is: 265 years
Prophet Zakariya Alaihi Salaam is: 207 years
Prophet Ibrahim Alaihi Salaam is: 195 years
The Prophet Sulaiman - Solomon Alaihi Salaam is: 150 years
Prophet Ayyub - Ayyoob Alaihi Salaam is: 146 years
Prophet Ya'qub - Ya'qoob Alaihi Salaam is: 139 years
The Prophet Ishmael – Ismail Alaihi Salaam is: 137 years

astakferullah! so none of them lived ta qayamat ba sehato aafeeyat conducting their followers in purjosh maatam 24/7??!

p.k AZ,
No need to bark over here.
This a not a mazaak, fool you are making fun of pak nabi(a.s)

[Al Zulfiqar]

zarda ammar,

on the contrary, the kothar is making fun of all the past nabi's and duats by exhorting abdes day and night to pray for mola's tulul umr ta qayamat ba sehato aafeeyat, when all of the nabi's, imams and duats died as they were supposed to, being mortal beings.

is that simple fact too hard for your tiny insect brain to understand??!

now go back to barking (in dawat ni zabaan) and purjosh maatam, followed by sajdas to mola.

btw, when are you publishing that script for the movie on mola and his man - the soos' - adventures while doing shikar in africa?

[ammar786]

zarda ammar,

on the contrary, the kothar is making fun of all the past nabi's and duats by exhorting abdes day and night to pray for mola's tulul umr ta qayamat ba sehato aafeeyat, when all of the nabi's, imams and duats died as they were supposed to, being mortal beings.

is that simple fact too hard for your tiny insect brain to understand??!

now go back to barking (in dawat ni zabaan) and purjosh maatam, followed by sajdas to mola.

Again the same baseless barking from p.k,
Even there is no combination of the sentences you wrote, you are quite unable to understand what disscussion is goin on .
bas kuch bhi ho me to jarur bhokunga...p.k

[Smart]

One thing is clear to me.
Narendra Modi is mentioned by the #feku handle on twitter.
His biggest donor, the Manhoos can be called #fekujunior.
On the other hand considering that he is ghaib na malik (in training), should it be #fekusenior.
I would like to put it to vote on this forum.

[ammar786]

One thing is clear to me.
Narendra Modi is mentioned by the #feku handle on twitter.
His biggest donor, the Manhoos can be called #fekujunior.
On the other hand considering that he is ghaib na malik (in training), should it be #fekusenior.
I would like to put it to vote on this forum.

Who asked you about that??
we are talking about nabi (s.a), and i can understand there is lack of knowledge so you people just do gibat every time.

[think]

what is the meaning of gibat?

[ammar786]

what is the meaning of gibat?

Talking about others or criticize them.

[SBM]

what is the meaning of gibat?

Talking about others or criticize them.

That is what Aamils and Shezaads do about everyone including Adamji Peerbhai on whose land they built hospital and in whose house they stole, Saify Mahal,
You should then talk to them and inform them what they do every time in code words about 1/2/3 khalifas too. Ghibat is talking about others or criticize them as per your definition so could you tell your masters to stop doing that too.

[ammar786]

Talking about others or criticize them.

You should then talk to them and inform them what they do every time in code words about 1/2/3 khalifas too. Ghibat is talking about others or criticize them as per your definition so could you tell your masters to stop doing that too.

why are you so much worried about that khalifas, They are those people who always opposed rasullallah (s.w.a) being with him.
even they always tried to ruine islam after rasullallah (s.w.a). and saying lanat to them is not gibat or gunah.

[SBM]

Ammar
Wah bhi wah, then why is ghibat done on Adamjee Peerbhai in whose house they live (saifee Mahal) and on whose land they go for treatment (Saifee
hospital land)
So it is ok for Syedna and Kotharis key jis ki thaali mein khain usi mein ched karen
And if all those Khalifas were wrong how come Moula Ali took misaq on them and did not oppose them during their khilafats and as a matter of fact
was adviser to the first two Khalifas.

[Al Zulfiqar]

not only that, he named his first born sons from wives he married after fatima passed away, as abubakr, umar and usman. all these 3 sons were martyred in kerbala along with hussain. they are part of the 72 shohoda.

and if your defense is that these were common names among arabs at that time, then why aren't we following the great ali's example and naming our sons after his practice? or do you think that ali was a fool??!

do you realise that by saying laanats on abubakr, umar and usman, you are also sending laanats on ali's sons and thereby on ali himself???