Ashara in Toronto - 2014

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Reporter
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Ashara in Toronto - 2014

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Unread post by Reporter » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:46 pm

E-mail from the Toronto jamat to its members...

Moazzaz Mu’mineen of Toronto
Baad afzalusalaam

Ashara Mubaraka 1436 na ayyam muqbeel che. All our attention and all our priorities naturally get focussed on Syed-u-Shohda Imam Husein(SA), His Ahle Bait(SA) and His Shohoda Kiram’s remembrance, Matam, Gam and Buka.

For the past 50 years – every year, our Bawa Musfiq Al-Hayyil Muqaddas Syedna Burhanuddin(RA) always prepared us, many months in advance for the on coming Ashara Mubaraka,. He would tell us to attend all 9 waa’z, which ever bilad we happen to reside in. He would implore us, his children to shed just one tear for Mazlume Kerbala so that we would be worthy of 9 jannat. He would ask us to take time off from work and studies, give time off to our employees so that no one would be deprived of Zikre Husain(AS) and the ensuing barakat that flows in abundance in these days.

We, the mu’mineen of Toronto were aware that Moulana Burhanuddin Aqa(RA)’s preference and khushi mubarak were to hold wa’az in the day time.. Therefore, for the past number of years, we used to hold wa’az after Zohar-Asr namaaz followed by magrib-isha namaaz, Raat ni majlis and Niyaz-e-Husein(AS).

In the last week, we received a short questionnaire from Aqa Moula(TUS) which clearly conveyed Moula(TUS)’s paigaam that His khushi mubarak lies in all American Jamaats (The American Jamiat) holding wa’az in the morning as opposed to the afternoons or the nights.

What is a mu’min to do when Imam Husein(SA) naa Dai expresses a certain wish!!

Without hesitation, we have to say: “Labbaik Ya Daillah”

Janab Aamil Saheb consulted extensively with the cross section of the community including Aayanul Jamaat and various sansthas to build a general consensus. Based on their response, which was “Labbaik Ya Daillah”, the Jamaat has set the following times:

  • Wa’az will start at 8.00 am and finish at 10.00 am ( except Yaume Ashura). Fajar namaaz at 7.00 am, marsiyah & Wa’ezeen ni ibarat at 7.30 am. Take away food packages, milk/tea will be served after the wa’az.
  • Raat ni majlis will commence at 7.00 pm and end at 7.30 pm followed by Niyaz-e-Husain(SA). Mu’mineen may leave for home at 8.30 pm.
Many benefits of these new timings are evident:
  • We are sure to obtain Aqa Moula(TUS)’s khushi mubarak. Is that not a mu’min’s purpose in life!!
  • DIsturbance from work/ studies would be minimal since a mu’min can start work/school at 11.00 am and work up to 6.00 pm. However, most mu’mineen would gladly take as much time off as needed as a token of their “fidagiri” for Imam Husein (AS)’s enormous ehsanaat on all of us.
  • Early morning wa’az would mean travelling to masjid in off-rush period and going to work in off-rush hours(after 10.00 am)

Janab Aamil Saheb urges all mu’mineen to be “haazir” on time from the very first wa’az, do buka and purjosh matam for Syed-u-Shohda(SA) and contribute in niyaz-e-Husain(SA). Surely, Imam Husein(SA) always listens to our ilteja and answers our suwaal in a heart beat

Khuda Ta’ala, apna Moula ne sehat – aafiyat ma hazaro hazaro saal, Imam Husein(AS) ni zikr vaste baaki ane baaki raakhe, aameen.
Abeede Syedna(TUS)
Anjuman-e-Burhani

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:48 pm

Reporter wrote:He would tell us to attend all 9 waa’z, which ever bilad we happen to reside in. He would implore us, his children to shed just one tear for Mazlume Kerbala so that we would be worthy of 9 jannat.
One Bohra owning 9 properties in Jannat !!! Is the recession worse in the other world as compared to this world ??
Reporter wrote:We are sure to obtain Aqa Moula(TUS)’s khushi mubarak. Is that not a mu’min’s purpose in life!!
Oh, so the sole purpose of ones life is Khushi Mubarak of the Dai !!! Where does Allah (swt) and His khushi fit in ? Oh, I forgot that Allah(swt) has given the sole selling agency of His Jannat to the Bohra Dai alone because without his "Ruku Chithi" Allah (swt) will not allow anyone to enter Jannat hence one should be more concerned about Dai ni khushi rather then Allah (swt) ni khushi !

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:43 pm

what abdes forget is that shedding tears on the mazlume kerbala also includes 3 of ali's sons, abubakr, umar and usman, who too died fighting valiantly and accepted shahadat.

so perhaps now abdes should stop shedding tears or avoid the blanket term 'mazlume kerbala', as it will unwittingly shower rehmat on these 3 sons of the great ali, names which are anathema to abdes.

as for allah, he is abjectly helpless against mola. he cannot accept even those with the greatest deeds of nobility, figures such as mother teresa, gandhi, mandela, edhi, etc. as they do not carry ruku chithhi from mola. on the other hand allah will perforce have to accept even the biggest sinner abde, whether an inveterate alcoholic, rapist, embezzler, fraud, cheat and mafia don, as long as he carries the coveted missive from the boss of allah, the bohra dai!

it is customary nowadays for abdes, when greeted, to say 'mola ni dua chhe'.

wah bhai, su eni niraaaaaali shaaaaaaaan chhe, ena ehsan ane barakat beshumaaaaaar chhe!! (to be said in the typical fashion of aaaaaaa hu dekhu chhe su)

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:51 am

Not commenting to AZ is like a cake without icing!

Can someone give me the tawil why this silly SMS has to instruct day time sermons ?

I was asking my family who are more orthodox then I thankfully not abdes...

Did Husain AS realise his Diai will punish his followers with sanctions to abscond school and neglect livelihood to cry and wail over him ?

And does Ashura need 10 days of mourning , really he was killed on 10th so why 9 days of day and night grieving and then mixing with feasting so full of mixed emotions. At what point do we check and see if we have gone completely overboard with this Shia ritual .

If one sees below the concept of sacrifice one will notice why Husain died for his principle and purity, not so we can almost worship him. Like him many other faithfuls and great men and women throughout history have sacrificed like Jesus , Gandhi, the ProphetSAW uncle yet we or their followers don't demand such extreme form of cultish devotion.

If one steps back from the chaos that SMS and SMB has created around Muharram one wonders what is it we are commemorating ? This fool SMS the same guy who tramples on people's freedom, encourages child abuse, hunts like a psycho and greed for money like a starving spoilt brat...yet he has the audacity to seat on his throne and demand absolute loyalty and fatwas and ridicule others faith. It is still not finalised whether he and his brothers have conned his uncles inheritance. I wish I could meet him face to face and say this to him. I hope one of his loyalist can pass on my message to him.

Then the really bizarre thing is grown men and women will huff and puff here but with tails between their legs be the punctual ones with their hands folded whether it is 8:00 am, 10:30 am or twice.

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:35 am

^
Br OZ
I am surprised with your post. How Dare You Compare our Dai to Imam Hussain. Imam Hussain had only 72 followers while our Dai has close to million followers. The Yazids of the time did not like Imam Hussain. Yazids of the time do meet our Dai and recieves Shawwals and money. Imam Hussain respected his family while our Dai sends laanats on his family. Imam Hussain and his family stayed hungry and thirsty for 3 days while our Dai and his family requires minimum 3 Ziyaafats a day.
Our Dai is foresighted and changes with time and understands POLITICAL Expediency while Imam Hussain was person of PRINCIPLE and did not compromise his faith.
Aqa Moula Zindabad and Ghano Jivo Ghano Jivo....

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:27 am

And remember the goals. The goal of Imam Hussain was to fight and against oppression and corruption and die fighting. The goal of the bohras, as per biradar and maethist, is to stay happy and content with jamans and beating themselves in their pretend fight against oppression and corruption.

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Unread post by JC » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:12 am

Now great sins and kufr will be committed during these 9/10 days ............ Dai will be worshipped and chest beating will take place non-stop followed by Jaman where all will sit, laugh and chit-chat.

The whole tamasha and other tamashas such as dares, urs, taboudat etc are for the sole purpose of 'detaching' bohras from Muslims and make them Dai/Grave/Dead worshipping slaves.

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:15 am

Yes, but the key thing is bohras are happy and content during these 10 days so it doesn't really matter what those days stand for or whom. Ashara is a time for festivities. Pretend tears and real food.

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Unread post by JC » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:21 am

anajmi wrote:Yes, but the key thing is bohras are happy and content during these 10 days so it doesn't really matter what those days stand for or whom. Ashara is a time for festivities. Pretend tears and real food.
Maula Ne Dua Chay, Jaim Maula Nee Khushi, Jaim Maula Nu Farman, Aamay Tuo Ghulamo Chay .................... Slaves only NEED an order from Master ....... that's it.

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Unread post by think » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:46 am

moula kahe che rova jevo mou banavo. go ahead start acting.

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Unread post by canadian » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:14 pm

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:12 AM, "Anjumane Najmi anjumane_najmi@yahoo.ca [torontojamaat]" <torontojamaat-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Baad As Salam;
Please note that due to the length of the relay, Zohr /Asr namaz will start @ 2:00pm. Also, mumineen are requested to get Najwa for Aqa maula in shukr for the waaz relay.

Shukhran Jazeela
Anjumane Burhani


In addition to paying all sorts of dues, wajebaats, najwas, salaams, etc., we now have to pay to listen to our lord and master glorifying himself/waaz! :lol: :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:49 pm

so namaaz can be delayed because mufatlal is doing bayan?? allah can wait?!

imam hussain got martyred so that mufatlal can collect money for telling us about hussain's ghoda.. !!! wah bhai wah!

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:34 am

canadian wrote:On Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:12 AM, "Anjumane Najmi anjumane_najmi@yahoo.ca [torontojamaat]" <torontojamaat-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Baad As Salam;
Please note that due to the length of the relay, Zohr /Asr namaz will start @ 2:00pm. Also, mumineen are requested to get Najwa for Aqa maula in shukr for the waaz relay.

Shukhran Jazeela
Anjumane Burhani


In addition to paying all sorts of dues, wajebaats, najwas, salaams, etc., we now have to pay to listen to our lord and master glorifying himself/waaz! :lol: :mrgreen:

Canadian What's wrong with paying premier rates he gives a class act ..emotions, tragedy, drama, crime, suspense, deceit, pain , sound effects ..Abdewood hit.

Next time take AZ and SBM with you! They need to see the Art.

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:39 am

Also, mumineen are requested to get Najwa for Aqa maula in shukr for the waaz relay.
So now the Waiz for Imam Hussain has become like going to movie in a theater, pay the price and sit for 3 hours, In theater you get Pop Corns, in Markaz you get food.
SO NOW WE KNOW WHO MAKES FUN OF SHAHDAT OF IMAM HUSSAIN AND MAATM-----TO MAKE SURE TM UNDERSTANDS IT IS SMS..AND KOTHARI GOONS

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:26 am

SBM wrote:
Also, mumineen are requested to get Najwa for Aqa maula in shukr for the waaz relay.
So now the Waiz for Imam Hussain has become like going to movie in a theater, pay the price and sit for 3 hours, In theater you get Pop Corns, in Markaz you get food.
but atleast if you dont like the movie, you can walk out, you can tell others not to see the movie. but here it is compulsory, whether you like it or not, and if you try to walk out because it is full of crap, they will tell you, "kaha chal diye bhai? picture abhi baaki hai mere dost.."

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Unread post by JC » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:20 pm

The New Aamil seems to be reinventing the wheel ............. the 'requirements' (read: orders) he has listed remind me if we are living in North Korea ... sadly.

The Muffadali Gang is tightening its grip over abdes/amtes many folds now ............... this is going towards extreme form of slavery ........ creating freaks!!