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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 6:50 pm

<br>porus posted 05-14-2002 03:36 PM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>So Hafeez,<br>You are well into 21st century geometry and physics! I commend you on your modern insight. <p>Let us apply the 21st century science to Hazar Imam's light. Where does it emanate from? Is it made of photons? Is it subject to wave-particle duality?<p>If it is a photon you can never see the light according to Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle. So, I am afraid Imam's noor can never be seen by his followers.<p>We will have to use Paul Dirac's multi-valuen eigenvalues in order to solve the wave-function and the probability that a light particle emanating from Hazar Imam can hit your eye and you can experience it. Then the photon will need to interact very purely with the rods and cones in your retina. <p>Hazar Imam's noor must be from the esoteric world. Maybe it gets coverted to something else so only his followers can experience the light.<p>Or it light a metaphor? Like all the specific Quran verses used to justify Hazar Imam's abandonment of Islam? <p>And what is this I read about Hazar Imam's Islamization initiative. Did he thibk his followers were not Muslims? Why Islamize them<p>(I have edited out Porus's reference to Quibla-Muslim First)<p><p>

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:04 pm

what an ass! Truly representative of his creed!

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:06 pm

Hafeez,<p>What? Hazar Imam's noor emanates from his ass?

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:11 pm

MF,<p>A true abider by the principle and science of ahadith if ever there was one. What are the 6 works of art? A collection of other people's thoughts. And so to keep the practice alive what does MF do? Keep on repeating other people's posts as a new topic. <br>Islam is definitely in safe hands!<br>Fear not Israel, India and the rest of the civilised world. This lot will use big words (probably lifted of someone else's site) but display no originality. I wonder whose plot was Islam - Aristotle, Pluto ..???

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:12 pm

Porus,<p>Anyone's ass is better than your brain.

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:24 pm

Gursevak,<p>We are analyzing Hazar Imam's ass not my brain. Please stick to the topic. <p>As crypto-Ismaili/crypto-Muslim, you may not see the difference between an ass and a brain. That is your problem, twerp!

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:47 pm

porus,<p>Topic: Noor<p>Your comment: We are analyzing Hazar Imam's ass not my brain. Please stick to the topic. <p>Extrapolation; Sur An-Nur must be about asses.<p>Conclusion: Islam is *********<p>Epilogue: Thank you Porus for putting it so succintly.<p>I love these Muslims!

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 7:52 pm

"As crypto-Ismaili/crypto-Muslim"<p>Pardon me? 1 Billion (give or take the odd few million non-Hadithi Muslims)idiots not enough, now you want sardars as well? <p>BTW Porus, what's irking? Mother got (way)laid by Sardarjis or ismailis? These things happen man when father allowed 4, mother told to do hijab. Take it in your stride (as she obviously did)

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 8:27 pm

Only a sardar would get Sura an-noor mistaken for Hazar Imam's ass. What an ass-trapolation. <p>Did your sardar's brain get transplated with an Ismaili one?

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 9:05 pm

Porus - the atheist cannot argue based on points or even wit so - he attacks the Imam e zamaan of all the muslims!<p>He is the epitome of all asses!

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 9:34 pm

"Imam e zamaan of all the muslims!"<p>Give us a break, Hafeez.<p>If I am an epitome of all asses then, that must include the ass of you know who?<p>And Gursevak, a Nizari masquerading as a Sardar! Or it that your id too?

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 9:34 pm

Sura Noor:<p>Allah is the LIGHT of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His LIGHT is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. <br>LIGHT UPON LIGHT! <br>Allah guideth unto His LIGHT whom He will. AND ALLAH SPEAKETH TO MANKIND IN ALLEGORIES, for Allah is Knower of all things.<p>Porus: read the last part, "Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories."<p>You cannot use science to come up with an explanation for Allah's Light!<br>

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 9:36 pm

6:102 – “Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God save Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He taketh care of all things.”<p>6:103 – “Vision comprehendeth Him not, but He comprehendeth (all) vision. He is the Subtile, the Aware.”<p>6:104 – “Manifest Proofs have come unto you from your Lord, so whoso seeth, it is for his own good, and whoso is blind is blind to his own hurt. And I am not a keeper over you.”<p>You cannot arrive at a scientific explanation for Allah. "Vision comprehendeth Him NOT". Get that in your head. According to your twisted version of science, you are an atheist!<br>

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Unread post by Guest » Tue May 14, 2002 9:41 pm

Nizari,<p>Do you have to spoil all the fun? We were nicely trading insults and you start quoting from Quran. Spoilsport!<p>Anyway, now that you are here, I will desist from further words.

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Unread post by Guest » Wed May 15, 2002 7:12 am

Porus,<p>"Did your sardar's brain get transplated with an Ismaili one?"<br>"And Gursevak, a Nizari masquerading as a Sardar! Or it that your id too?"<p>Things getting too hot for you? Make up your mind (or should that read scratch your ass a bit more?)<br>