New Rules..!!

[Al Zulfiqar]

thanks bm!

[truebohra]

Zuflikar,
You can only mock. Your life is a Mockery. Anyways the Dawwodi Bohras are not at all amused by your posts. Infact you are a outsider, another splinter group from 46th Dai.. Dont Poke nose in anothers internal matter. Its BAD HABIT..

[Al Zulfiqar]

Zuflikar,
You can only mock. Your life is a Mockery. Anyways the Dawwodi Bohras are not at all amused by your posts. Infact you are a outsider, another splinter group from 46th Dai.. Dont Poke nose in anothers internal matter. Its BAD HABIT..

TB,

why do you find this a mockery?? many of the insider info news i have reported are actually occurring right now, like the 100 hour matam, or the abde bloc at cricket matches, or ejamaat cards with magnetic stripes etc.

as an abde, you should be proud that your masters are constantly devising new ways to involve you and your life in the service of syedna and his family. in fact your whole life, your wife and children are his slaves and property. if tomorrow, as per the new rules, they take over yr property and income and give you say, 5000 rs per month to live, wouldnt you be happy?

you are already doing so much, so what if you have to give up everything for your god on earth and his tattered and hungry family? why complain?

the actual spinter group is the present syedna's family, as they are the ones who split away from the 46th onwards, yet you are still giving them your faith and money. i say, with your devotion and loyalty, the best way for you would be to immolate yrself alongwith your whole family in front of saifee mahal so they can see how much love you have for your ilah ul ardh.

[truebohra]

Zuflikar,
You can only mock. Your life is a Mockery. Anyways the Dawwodi Bohras are not at all amused by your posts. Infact you are a outsider, another splinter group from 46th Dai.. Dont Poke nose in anothers internal matter. Its BAD HABIT..

TB,

why do you find this a mockery?? many of the insider info news i have reported are actually occurring right now, like the 100 hour matam, or the abde bloc at cricket matches, or ejamaat cards with magnetic stripes etc.

as an abde, you should be proud that your masters are constantly devising new ways to involve you and your life in the service of syedna and his family. in fact your whole life, your wife and children are his slaves and property. if tomorrow, as per the new rules, they take over yr property and income and give you say, 5000 rs per month to live, wouldnt you be happy?

you are already doing so much, so what if you have to give up everything for your god on earth and his tattered and hungry family? why complain?

the actual spinter group is the present syedna's family, as they are the ones who split away from the 46th onwards, yet you are still giving them your faith and money. i say, with your devotion and loyalty, the best way for you would be to immolate yrself alongwith your whole family in front of saifee mahal so they can see how much love you have for your ilah ul ardh.

So you agree. Nass ended with 46th Dai... (nauzobillah). What happens to your official stand??
And if not then Who was 47th Dai according you as we separated way?

[murtaza2152]

The most Venomful person and Kattar Munafiq Al Zulfiqar agreed that he does not believe 52nd Dai as Dail Mutlaq.
Who is your New Dai??
I am dying to know it..

[Al Zulfiqar]

TB and 2152,

you guys are trying too hard to score points and show progressives as munafiqs with this new found 52nd dai tasbih allegiance crap.

you have to read my post again with your thinking cap on, after removing the blinkers which normally donkeys and horses are made to wear. even your masters in saifee mahal know why the dais until the 50th called themselves as dai e nazims. did anyone force them to call themselves that?

with the new rules planned by the zaadas to embed every bohra with a spy chip buried deep inside every abdes brains, you guys will be glad to know that even your visits to this free reformist site will be monitored and you guys will get such a "royal" kick in yr backsides by the zaadas for coming here without raza that you will land straight into waziristan.

happy about the chip in your brains? you should be, now you will have your aqa and maula, your haqiqi kaaba, natiqe quran in your mind and thoughts all the time. su eni niraali shaan che...!!

[JC]

Bro Al Zulfikar ......

I beg to differ WHERE the chip will be imbeded ....... you know abdes donot use brains (they are not allowed to) so there is no point putting it there, how will it work ........... they use some other place to 'think' and 'see', so I believe it will be imbeded there ........ also, brain has 'small' space, 'that' place is comparatively bigger .......... Also, when talked about 'kicking' thats correct, it is easy for the chip to kick there if it malfunctions ........ and the Shan Na More-La can 'reside' at his 'true deserving place' ...

And Abdes ........ stop that crap of WHO is Dai, and what kind of or sort of ......... If your Imam can sit in PARDA for hundreds of years, why cannot our Dai ...??!! After 46th, our Dai has gone hiding ......... happy??!!

[murtaza2152]

JC quoted,
If
your Imam can sit in PARDA
for hundreds of years, why
cannot our Dai ...??!! After 46th, our Dai has gone hiding .........

He , JC says YOUR Imam and OUR Dai,
Undoubtedly ,JC is not a Bohra.....

[truebohra]

Zulmkar,
Apart from the crap you post. You made a interesting point. After 46th Dai all the Dai's are Dai Nazim & not Dai Mutlaq? You are doing disservice to the propaganda machine started by Mr Inssaf, Ajgar who claims believes H.H Dr Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (tus) as rightful Dai Mutlak with right Nass...

Bieng a hypocrite your movement dont have real balls to change the official stand....

JC we are not bothered about you. You have already crossed the line..

tch tch. tch.. proggies movement is in a sorry state. Nobody is able to defendt the so called "Offical Position"

[Al Zulfiqar]

After 46th Dai all the Dai's are Dai Nazim & not Dai Mutlaq?

did you send arzi in the august presence of the hazrate aliyah, haq na saheb and haqiqi kaaba, along with a tagda salaam of 2552/= Rs and ask him why uptil the 50th dai they referred to themselves as dai e nazims? what, have no money for arzi??? tch tch...

worry not. when you sleep tonight, take mola's niyyat and he will appear in your dreams and answer your question as he does for thousands of his abdes around the world. if he does not and you cannot get the answer then there is something wrong in your imaan, you are a munafiq whom the syedna will utter laanats on in this coming friday's khutba. he may also do your shikar alongwith the lions and elephants he murders after every ashura in africa.

if he does, also lage haath ask him, why he does not observe his mother's urus when he does of his wife? why is he ignoring her? what are her (taher saifuddin's wife) sins that they have put a cloak of secrecy around her existence?

[Al Zulfiqar]

new rules contd....

my latest info from 'deep throat', situated high in the hierarchy inside saifee mahal, is very disturbing to say the least. apparently quid johar, qasai vajihuddin and muffy are getting blood-thirsty like kaali maata and are now demanding absolution of their sins. in a sign of their end days, a' la "vinaash kaale viparit buddhi" (sanskrit saying which roughly translates as driven insane in their last days), they are hatching this new rule..

26) In order to prove their hold over the community and the absolute allegiance and blind loyalty they can command, they are planning to instigate fanatic abdes to literally give their life for syedna and his family. they plan to set in sinister motion a scheme whereby every 3 months a gullible abde will be selected and mentally prepared by means of secret sabaks and brainwashing with merciless maatam, madehs like sajda tujhe wajib hai and ghanu jeevo etc at a secret training camp. this will follow the insidious methods of al qaeda and taleban in their methodology. vulnerable abdes with money problems, uncertain future, incurable diseases or obsessive compulsive disorder which includes maatam, singing madehs, and seeing miracles of dai in every nook and corner, will be enticed with offers of big amounts of money and titles of mulla and (milk)sheikh into this 'uplifting' programme. this suicidal abde will be instructed to immolate himself in front of saifee mahal, yelling naara's of ya hussain, syedna ni tulul umr ta qayamat, sajda tujhe wajib hai etc. he will have fuel accelerants in his std and will make a grand spectacle as he lights up the night sky.

this abde's dependents will be royally rewarded with monetary benefits and allowed free ziyarat of raudat tahera for 10 years. after a couple of such human sacrfices, more abdes will be automatically motivated in a mob frenzy to donate their lives and become shaheed for syedna and his puppies. no more freebies will be needed for such abdes as they will now line up to make a bonfire of themselves. i have taken the liberty of suggesting a few potential candidates from this forum, viz, truebohra, murtu2152, labbaikya hussain, gulf, pig, aqs, aziz, and others of their ilk in view of their unwavering imaan, ikhlaas and junoon for the syedna.

su eni niraali shaan che!!!

[profastian]

Zulmkar,
Apart from the crap you post. You made a interesting point. After 46th Dai all the Dai's are Dai Nazim & not Dai Mutlaq? You are doing disservice to the propaganda machine started by Mr Inssaf, Ajgar who claims believes H.H Dr Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (tus) as rightful Dai Mutlak with right Nass...

Bieng a hypocrite your movement dont have real balls to change the official stand....

JC we are not bothered about you. You have already crossed the line..

tch tch. tch.. proggies movement is in a sorry state. Nobody is able to defendt the so called "Offical Position"

There is no such thing as a official position. They are just a frustrated bunch of loons who have nothing better to do in life. Every one has a different opinion over here. There is no such thing as a movement. Put them all in a room for more than a few hours, and they will be at each others throats.

[Al Zulfiqar]

murtu, labbaik, prof, gulf, pig, aziz and aqs,

you are so seized of this issue of dai's names included in your bogus namaaz followed by maatam and sajdat to dai, that you are now getting apoplectic fits. before you burst a capillary and get a brain haemorrhage, which would be a complete loss of your body and soul, why not you sacrifice yrself in your love for maula and immolate yrself in front of saifee mahal?

look, your dependents will be well taken care of and you will get a posthumous hadiyat of sheikh panu, + 5 lakh rs as reward. you will be remembered in the zikra vaez in surat and syedna will partake of yr fateha jaman. what can be a greater honor for yr soul?

this issue is trivial compared to yr love for more-la, esp if you become shaheed in his cause.

[Al Zulfiqar]

new rules contd..

27. Once the salgirah tamasha, hoopla and loot is over, it is being touted that syedna will give a speech of thanks in which he will recommend that any abde who before going to sleep,

a. prays 200 rakat namaz for tulul umr of syedna, and after every 2 rakats does sajda for him followed by maatam,
b. dons a full quami libaas ul anwar and keeps a complete junglee beard,
c. keeps aside daily fakher najwa for the dai,
d. drinks a hot glass of milk mixed with a phookelu special powder which will be available from every amil shortly, said powder to be supplied worldwide from saifee mahal,
e. goes to sleep shortly afterwards (with his saaya topi dhadhi proudly in place) with the last word being "hamara aqa ane mola mane zaroor deedar nu sharaf apso" on his lips,

will be rewarded daily with the ilham of syedna in his sleep. syedna will already know all his problems and will pray for his abde.

expect this amazing karam ane ehsaan from our haqiqi kaaba and haq na saheb shortly.
(as reported by my source 'deep throat' high up in saifee mahal)

su eni niraali shaan che!

[Al Zulfiqar]

what happened abdes? are you not jumping with joy for all the beshumaar karam ane ehsaan of our haq nasaheb, god on earth, for granting you such rare privileges??

[Al Zulfiqar]

c'mon die-hard fanatics where are you?

where are the street hooligans like progticide, murtu, guysam, aziz, gulf, prof etc? why are you guys staying away from this thread? scared to open your loud and foul mouths here?

[Al Zulfiqar]

new rules contd...

28. once the 99th, or is it 96th ... er whatever birthday of the syedna is over, the masterminds at saifee mahal are going to declare a new gimmick. a zareeh for the syedna's grave!!! yes. it will be the biggest, heaviest, most expensive and most stunning piece of gilded extravagance that the world and esp. the panjatan and their long gone progeny has ever seen. let them burn in jealousy!

every bohra who comes to take raza for any crap, whether an arzi, or khatna (his own or his son's), mayyat, nikah, safai chitthi, safar, majlis, aqiqa, sitaabi, etc etc, must come with atleast 1 tola to ten tolas of gold. the weights and rates are being fixed as we speak depending on the occasion. for those who go to the markaz everyday, the min. weight will be 10 tolas, for those who do not keep a junglee beard - ditto. the goal is to collect atleast 10 tonnes of gold, 25 tonnes of silver and atleast a thousand carats of diamonds and another 5000 carats of other precious stones. the zareeh around the syedna's grave will be atleast 20 ft high so no abde emaciated tigers can leap inside for ziyarat and fulfillment of mannats or to do purjosh maatam. until such time this collection target is reached, the syedna will be kept alive at all costs, he may even be cryogenically frozen if need be.

those abdes who balk from contributing will be hauled in for a bodily inspection and the gold crowns on their teeth, even the kasab in their topis and ridhas and ghaghras etc will be removed. this besides the personal gold of theirs that will be seized from their home, bank lockers, backyards, cutlery and bathroom fittings, such as gold taps a la saifee mahal. none of the ladies jewellery will be spared if there is any violation of the 10 tola rule.

watch this space for more shocking revelations as and when 'deep throat' obliges...

[Al Zulfiqar]

as usual, only a hushed silence from the abdes cowering in fear of opening their mouths.

[Al Zulfiqar]

it gives me great pleasure and satisfaction when the abdes run away from his thread...

but inspite of several reminders to them to come and partake of the wide variety of dishes in this thaal (thread), it is curious how they stay away... wonder why???

[Al Zulfiqar]

new rules contd....

29) it is being seriously contemplated that from now on, on every salgirah of syedna every bohra male or female and their adult kids will be asked to take compulsory misak. there will be a special majlis for this purpose and amil or some other lackey will recite the misaknama and every bohra adult will repeat the oath after him. this will be followed by individual salaams from abdes with fakhir rakams for amil and gold coins for syedna.

all those who have dues of over 2 years and are habitual late payers, will be taken back into the jamaat only after they have settled twice their outstandings and undergone an additional khatna. this will be subject to physical verification and once the errant abde or amte is thoroughly vetted, they will be graciously allowed to resume their normal jamaat life.

this process of restriction in jamaat activities and subsequent retributions and resumption will be repeated every time in the same cycle which please note.

more revelations from 'deep throat' will be posted here as and when they are leaked to me... keep watching this space closely.

[Al Zulfiqar]

after my last posting on this subject, vazaratus saifiyah has been forced to clarify that additional khatna specialists are being appointed. this clarification was deemed neccessary as many irate bohras who are late in paying their taxes sent angry emails to saifee mahal complaining at the lack of khatna facilities and the long wait times to get themselves circumcised.

alarmed at the shortage of khatnatis and the resultant shortfall in tax collections, apparently some medically trained zaadas have volunteered to conduct male khatnas, this reduction of the bohra potency and pride being right up their alley and fitting perfectly into their job description. many savvy young zaadis have also jumped in to volunteer and handle amte syednas so their dues can be collected faster.

all abdes, you have been warned. pay up and promptly, or else.....!!!

[Smart]

The first time, it would be khatna. Any subsequent operations would be castration. Did you mean that?

[Al Zulfiqar]

nallu,

actually the funniest post i had ever read was your pathetic attempt to cover your arse after your failed seduction of a female colleague, your lack of integrity and ethics in handling the affair and the spiralling consequences which would have led not only in you being fired from your job but being hauled up to face a human rights tribunal, being penalised and ostracised in society, esp. among your abde morons, when lo and behold your syedna stepped into your dreams in answer to your sorry pleas to cover your leaking nal and rescued you. of course, syedna is well adept at rescuing his abdes who commit such gaffes and he takes great pride in having unethical, immoral and dishonest abdes like you. dont know who deserves each other better, an allah on earth deserving such fools and morons or the moron slaves deserving such an earthly allah??

for someone who credits the syedna for having rescued your stinking backside, it is a bit rich that you should have the uncanny knack of determining truth from fiction!!

i will be posting your episode to russell peters, he will surely make good capital of the natural comedy it provides.

[like_minded]

nallu,

actually the funniest post i had ever read was your pathetic attempt to cover your arse after your failed seduction of a female colleague, your lack of integrity and ethics in handling the affair and the spiralling consequences which would have led not only in you being fired from your job but being hauled up to face a human rights tribunal, being penalised and ostracised in society, esp. among your abde morons, when lo and behold your syedna stepped into your dreams in answer to your sorry pleas to cover your leaking nal and rescued you. of course, syedna is well adept at rescuing his abdes who commit such gaffes and he takes great pride in having unethical, immoral and dishonest abdes like you. dont know who deserves each other better, an allah on earth deserving such fools and morons or the moron slaves deserving such an earthly allah??

for someone who credits the syedna for having rescued your stinking backside, it is a bit rich that you should have the uncanny knack of determining truth from fiction!!

i will be posting your episode to russell peters, he will surely make good capital of the natural comedy it provides.

Fitting reply to nallu

[Al Zulfiqar]

nallu,

for a guy who was desperately trying to save his sorry backside from his amorous indiscretions gone seriously awry and staring at the loss of his job, and whose stinking hiney was then saved by his miracle baba in his dreams, you still claim not to be an abde, you still believe you are a muslim??

posting stupid b.s. here of imaginary miracles and expecting us to spare you? btw, russell peters has sent me a chq for 5000 $, he was ecstatic at the possibilities with your story.

[seeker110]

Somebody is gona get hurt real bad

[questions]

I am going to the markaz kicking and screaming but will get thru it thinking of this last comment from seeker !

[ghulam muhammed]

So you agree. Nass ended with 46th Dai... (nauzobillah).

Bro truebohra,

Syedi Lukmanji, the paternal uncle (mama) of the current dai and brother-in-law (saala) of the 51st dai agreed that nass ended with 46th dai. Now you will say that we dont believe him although he is the brother of the dai's mother. You are told to ridicule and reject anything which goes against the tenets of dai and kothar, even if it is from an unbiased insider source, you dont even tax your brains into trying to analyze things in an unbiased manner.

[Al Zulfiqar]

nallu,

i can see how your nal starts leaking profusely when your sorry behind is royally hammered...

[Al Zulfiqar]

new rules contd...

30. it is being reported that after syedna's latest revelation during his bayan on his 99th salgirah, of being a star of hussain in the firmament, the key zaada committee in saifee mahal has decided to appoint a team of astronomers in india's ISRO (indian space research organisation) who will collaborate with another team from NASA in USA, to locate, identify and name a star in the name of syedna mohd burhanuddin. the aim is to locate a star close to the earth which can be seen with the naked eye in a relatively uncrowded quadrant of the night sky. since most luminescent and visible stars of respectable size have already been named, it is not going to be an easy task.

several ideas are being seriously considered. a) to make a sizeable and respectable 'donation' to NASA or the next best, to the deptt of astronomy at the University of Texas in Houston. A special cell will be created with this money to look for a star or a cluster of stars of say around 10-15 with one prominent star in the centre. the centre star will of course be named after syedna MB and the others after syedna taher saifuddin, then the panjatan pak and followed by selected imams. money will be no object and efforts are already underway to start a collection from all jamaats in each every bilad and moze'. b) buy up an already named star or cluster and apply a name change. c) discover a comet which would keep circulating the universe carrying the banner of syedna MB. a quick calculation shows that if each and every bohra family were to contribute say, 2500/= $, we could have about 1 billion dollars for the research (the rest 1.5 billion$ going towards the upkeep of the poverty stricken qasre ali) to name this star or group of stars in perpetuity. this way syedna could live ta qayaamat (TUS)

would any bohra give up this azeem sharaf to vindicate imam hussain's desire to have a star named after syedna MB?

i will be posting more updates on this as and when 'deep throat' conveys them to me....