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LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:11 am
by revertbohra
Just came across to this great details about every fatimid dai....really excellent

http://www.zeninfosys.net/urus/

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:32 am
by humanbeing
That is very good, a very good effort by khidmat guzar. Thanks for sharing RB.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:19 am
by taherbaghwa
it came from jamaat:
All mumineen using Android phones can now download "Milad 101" application from the Android Market.
Just search "Milad 101" in the market...

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:49 am
by revertbohra
taherbaghwa wrote:it came from jamaat:
All mumineen using Android phones can now download "Milad 101" application from the Android Market.
Just search "Milad 101" in the market...
wow I really love the way kothar keeps updating it self hightech

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:10 am
by MurtazaVds
revertbohra wrote:Just came across to this great details about every fatimid dai....really excellent

http://www.zeninfosys.net/urus/

awesome work by khidmat guzar

khuda sagla ne naik taufiq ape khidmat krwa ni

ane sagla ne milad mubarak
khuda apna bewe Moula ni umr sharif ne qayamat na din lag daraz

ameen

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:01 am
by fearAllah
MurtazaVds wrote:khuda apna bewe Moula ni umr sharif ne qayamat na din lag daraz
You wish!

Oops....sorry I mean, Ameen! (Ai-mean it) :P

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:53 pm
by Al Zulfiqar
revertbohra wrote:
wow I really love the way kothar keeps updating it self hightech
you will love the hightec kothar even more when it installs CCTV cameras in your house to observe your reverse sajdas...

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:00 am
by Doctor
revertbohra wrote:Just came across to this great details about every fatimid dai....really excellent

http://www.zeninfosys.net/urus/
Bhai revertbohra,

"RA" is written after name of all dai's (mutlaq & nazim), but after name of Taher Saifuddin sahab "AQ" is written and not "RA" - do u know why?

Thanks,

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:44 am
by revertbohra
Doctor wrote:
revertbohra wrote:Just came across to this great details about every fatimid dai....really excellent

http://www.zeninfosys.net/urus/
Bhai revertbohra,

"RA" is written after name of all dai's (mutlaq & nazim), but after name of Taher Saifuddin sahab "AQ" is written and not "RA" - do u know why?

Thanks,
it doesnt matters at all but still


Adam can explain in I guess

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:51 am
by Muslim First
Majority of Muslim put SA (Salley Allah )after Prophets except Prophet Muhammad SAW(Salley Allah Hu Wasallam ) Shias put ((Salley Allah hu Wasallam and his Family )

All noble Sahabas are RA (Radi Allah Anhu)

Great personility of Islam are Rh.A (Rehmat ul Allah)

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:08 pm
by Al Zulfiqar
reverse bohra,

i suppose the first thing that was given to you, even before taking the oath of shahada and misaq when you converted to a DABMR, was a long list of whom to say laanats on 24/7.

the list you have reproduced is incomplete. it should also include the names of all of dai's dushmans, the ones who question him and his administrations anti-islamic practices and deeds.

i congratulate you on being the perfect stereotype example of an abde regressive bohra on this board.

su eni niraali shaan chhe!

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:09 pm
by JC
DAI SHOULD LEARN ...............

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:07 am
by stranger
Doctor wrote: "RA" is written after name of all dai's (mutlaq & nazim)
Hello members,
Can Doctor, Porus or Adam or anyone out here explain d difference between Dai's ( mutlaq & Nazim ) as stated by Doctor above ?

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:37 pm
by ghulam muhammed
Dua : Tul-Ul-Umar of Dai (Listen to the audio) :-

http://www.aajnodin.com/popUpDetailsAma ... amaalid=55

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:10 pm
by JC
I simply do not understand - WHY do they want 52nd to live Ta Qayamat????????? Now that 53rd has been crowned, dust should settle down and all this tamasha of Tul-ul-Umr should die down, it is not??? So there is something which is not clear ........... there are so many sh**zaadas ........... all LEADERS all MAULAS ........ why so much of hype??? There is something which we all do not know.

I believe one reason is: Mazun should die first coz if he dies, there will be no cliamant on Daiship, if 52nd dies first they have doubts Khozee will create a havoc ..........

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:46 pm
by Muslim First
I pray to Allah SWT that Bohra in some future time will never have to LEARN ABOUT DAIS.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:38 pm
by bohra_manus
mustafanalwalla wrote:
Muslim First wrote:I pray to Allah SWT that Bohra in some future time will never have to LEARN ABOUT DAIS.

That sir, is something that fortunately for us and unfortunately for you will never happen. And that is because the entire theosophy of the Dawoodi Bohra sect is based on the premise of a Dai.

So all i can to your revent prayer sir, is dream on
Br. Mustafa,
So Imam is now out of picture?

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:44 pm
by Al Zulfiqar
bm,

imam was never in picture. the whole show belongs to dai ul mutlaq. even the ex-syedna had admitted under oath that the concept of a hidden imam is merely that; a concept, an imaginary figure central to our belief, but whose physical whereabouts cannot be established.

regressives keep trying to beat this torn drum about progressive's beliefs in hidden imam, just to divert the topic from the real issues of corruption, non-accountability, nepotism and loot.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:24 pm
by Muslim First
So all i can to your revent prayer sir, is dream on
Mustafa; AS
I did not get this, care to explain please.

Brother, we in mainstream Islam are so lucky that we do not have to wait or pray for Imam to come out of hiding or some Dai and his Shehzadas to exploit us. All we are required is to pray Namaz, fast, pay Zakat and go for Hujj if we can afford.

Show me from Qur'an and/or sunnah if Muslims are asked to do any thing more than this.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:26 pm
by ghulam muhammed
Muslim First wrote:Show me from Qur'an and/or sunnah if Muslims are asked to do any thing more than this.
Bro Muslim First,

Again you are confusing muslims with abde bohras........... ola musalman chhe, hamein to bohra chhe.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:43 am
by asad
mustafanalwalla wrote: That sir, is something that fortunately for us and unfortunately for you will never happen. And that is because the entire theosophy of the Dawoodi Bohra sect is based on the premise of a Dai.

So all i can to your revent prayer sir, is dream on
What was it based on before Syedna Zoeb. If it was Imam then what kind of premises is it that shifts from person to person and doesnt have any fixed object like Quran.

I know you dont mean what you write sometimes. this is just for you to ponder upon. And no need for a reply.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:03 am
by Muslim First
That sir, is something that fortunately for us and unfortunately for you will never happen. And that is because the entire theosophy of the Dawoodi Bohra sect is based on the premise of a Dai.
Mustafa
If DBs clim to be Muslim than theosphy should be based on Qur'an and Sunna first and anything said by Dai should confirm to Q and S. Am I right?

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:23 am
by asad
mustafanalwalla wrote: i dont have a clue so really would not know where to start the thinking from either :)
start from Quran, it should be your best bet.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:25 am
by Muslim First
but then every person brings on board a different perspective of the same thing. Which is why Dr. Zakir Naik has a different perspective from that of say, the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, who might have a different perspective from say, the Chancellor of Aligarh Mulsim University
Can you point to different perspective on Q & S between ZN & Shahi Imam?

the Chancellor of Aligarh Mulsim University if it is Maulana B than he definately have different perspective on Q & S. (please do not get into debate on this. Your clock will be cleaned by reformists and so called Wahabis)

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:28 am
by Muslim First
Good point.

Anyone have any idea where i can get an English version please?

Also, a bookstall owner asked me a strange question the other day, he asked me if the Shia version or the DB version is different from the Sunni version!

Does anyone have an answer on this?

Honest and sarcasm-free replies much appreciated.
You can start here
http://quran.al-islam.org/

Ask for more and I will help you, Inshah Allah

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:09 pm
by Muslim First
Also, a bookstall owner asked me a strange question the other day, he asked me if the Shia version or the DB version is different from the Sunni version!
As far as I know All 3 versions has same arabic text. It may have difference in translation and comments.

Bohras have no translation and commentary is dispensed in Sabaks.

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:43 pm
by anajmi
Also, a bookstall owner asked me a strange question the other day, he asked me if the Shia version or the DB version is different from the Sunni version!
Why would a bookstall owner ask you this question?

Re: LEARN ABOUT DAIS

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:03 pm
by Al Zulfiqar
anajmi wrote:
Why would a bookstall owner ask you this question?
because the bookstall owner could make out that nulwala is an idiot. its written all over his face...