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Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:16 am
by silvertongue
The structure and teachings of our community has totally changed. As we can see that people are now more dependent on our Dai, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, rather than having Faith in Allah (SWT). Most of the bohris dont greet by saying Assalam O Alaikum, or dont reply Alhamdolillah. Instead they say "Mola ni Dua che". or "Mola che to Saglu j che". Iev also heard an amil quote that Just like Allah is the Lord in the heavens, Burhanuddin Aqa is our Lord on Earth. These things are making the bohris more blind and taking away from the real Noor of Allah (SWT). In Sha Allah I hope someday they open their eyes and understand the real meaning of Islam and its teachings.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:01 am
by AMAFHH
silvertongue wrote:The structure and teachings of our community has totally changed. As we can see that people are now more dependent on our Dai, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, rather than having Faith in Allah (SWT). Most of the bohris dont greet by saying Assalam O Alaikum, or dont reply Alhamdolillah. Instead they say "Mola ni Dua che". or "Mola che to Saglu j che". Iev also heard an amil quote that Just like Allah is the Lord in the heavens, Burhanuddin Aqa is our Lord on Earth. These things are making the bohris more blind and taking away from the real Noor of Allah (SWT). In Sha Allah I hope someday they open their eyes and understand the real meaning of Islam and its teachings.
Brother
i have also Noticed the same thing on my side and What they are doing cal be called SHIRK, ,
what i have read and experienced until know about the Bohra's as being a part of them for a long time
this community has been Hijacked by so Called Royal Family and they want to Rule on Bohra's so for that they have given this Community a Deen which has many similarity of Islam , saying that this is our correct religion Which is Not and to maintain the Rule they are using two Tactics that is FEAR & GREED (Laalach) ,
if the People can control on this Two things the whole structure will collapse
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:19 am
by silvertongue
I recently saw a video of Dahod on whatsapp where a man is being humiliated by a mulla in front of a bhaisaheb and a huge crowd. Where he is scolded of eating tobacco or say Moharramaat. We do understand that this guy did some wrong things in his life but this is not the right way to make him understand. Would our beloved Prophet (S.a.w.w) or Any of the Imams do that ?..
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:30 am
by HMALAK
silvertongue wrote:I recently saw a video of Dahod on whatsapp where a man is being humiliated by a mulla in front of a bhaisaheb and a huge crowd. Where he is scolded of eating tobacco or say Moharramaat. We do understand that this guy did some wrong things in his life but this is not the right way to make him understand. Would our beloved Prophet (S.a.w.w) or Any of the Imams do that ?..
Can you post the video???? I have also heard about it but haven't got the video yet....
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:40 am
by silvertongue
Heres the Video below
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:44 am
by silvertongue
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:45 am
by silvertongue
Watch it full and let me know your comments.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:16 am
by Just_a_muslim
Good luck trying to admonish Bohras... But it's sooo hard , no matter how logical your points are , they don't believe you , they have been sooo brainwashed !
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:19 am
by silvertongue
I dont wana admonish them. They are free to believe what they want to because its useless to make them understand even the simple things. What I want is they shouldnt force anyone or humiliate or degrade a person who thinks little different about Dai and his Mansoos.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:27 am
by Aymelek
silvertongue wrote:Watch it full and let me know your comments.
This is a street play / one-act drama enacted across various jamaats in many cities to highlight the side effects of tobacco and other addiction. It is not a real-life video of humiliation.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:33 am
by silvertongue
Well I got it from a friend who said that its real. Theres no drama in it. And he didnt sounded like hes joking coz hes kinda Mulla type. Or may be hes mistaken.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:47 am
by Al Fateh
cancer from tobacco is less harmful than the cancer of shirk spread by SMB his father and now his son muffy.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:57 am
by Al Fateh
instead of humiliating people why don't they educate them scientifically and also from QURAAN by teaching them translation?
I am sure most people will get away of tobacco....
just telling then leave wont help until "why" is explained.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:02 am
by silvertongue
Every Friday after Zohar Namaz I see some old sheikhs with a green bag moving here and there uttering " Qarze Hasana". For some reason I think, did it happened in the times of previous Dais. Then why this collection now. When I asked a question regarding the collection of all these najwas. I got a reply that the collection is for the Imam and when he will Zahoor He will have a great amount that could run a kingdom and we all will serve him and do Jihad with him.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:03 am
by silvertongue
Al Fateh wrote:instead of humiliating people why don't they educate them scientifically and also from QURAAN by teaching them translation?
I am sure most people will get away of tobacco....
just telling then leave wont help until "why" is explained.
For Them asking "WHY" means that you doubt the words and Farmaan of Mola. And you totally drop deep in their sight.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:03 am
by zinger
silvertongue wrote:The structure and teachings of our community has totally changed. As we can see that people are now more dependent on our Dai, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, rather than having Faith in Allah (SWT). Most of the bohris dont greet by saying Assalam O Alaikum, or dont reply Alhamdolillah. Instead they say "Mola ni Dua che". or "Mola che to Saglu j che". Iev also heard an amil quote that Just like Allah is the Lord in the heavens, Burhanuddin Aqa is our Lord on Earth. These things are making the bohris more blind and taking away from the real Noor of Allah (SWT). In Sha Allah I hope someday they open their eyes and understand the real meaning of Islam and its teachings.
You have been hanging out or mingling with the wrong kind of people.
every DB that i have come across is either As salam aale kum or Kem cho bhai/ben and the reply has always been Waalekum as salam (not alhamdolillah) or Humme sara che bhai, tame kem cho
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:05 am
by silvertongue
The thing is these kind of people does exist and Its not that easy when they are your childhood friends whom you shared your moments and thoughts with.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:42 am
by rang
100% Correct
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:56 am
by Al Fateh
mumin_DB wrote:Unread postby silvertongue on Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:19 am
I recently saw a video of Dahod on whatsapp where a man is being humiliated by a mulla in front of a bhaisaheb and a huge crowd. Where he is scolded of eating tobacco or say Moharramaat. We do understand that this guy did some wrong things in his life but this is not the right way to make him understand. Would our beloved Prophet (S.a.w.w) or Any of the Imams do that ?..
Dear Silvertongue,
Teri maa ki choot - Teri maa ka bhosda for spreading wrong msgs - and wrong lnks to people..
wake up madarchod - first confirm where this video was taken - and chutiya this video was a drama - where they ere inacting as a tobacco eater and bhaisaheb and the act was perfomed infront of the crowd. and it wasnt in real or humiliating anyone.
I confirmed with my links and this video has been taken from Wagad town - Baswada -
you haramkhor - spread rumours abt your mother and sister
_DB
true abde hahahahaha
Imagine this kind of people dreams to enter heaven
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:59 am
by silvertongue
Are you talking abt me or Mumin_DB ?
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:00 am
by Al Fateh
silvertongue wrote:Are you talking abt me or Mumin_DB ?
off course the one who abused.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:11 am
by silvertongue
Hmm... I hope that Mumin_DB is well guided and if not, the May Allah (SWT) guide him and forgive for all his words.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:25 am
by silvertongue
How are the peoples views where you live?
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:36 am
by zinger
Silvertongue, i apologise to you on behalf of my brother-in-faith Mumin_DB.
we orthrodox DBs, being bashed so often on this site, tend to sometimes loose control and lash out.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:41 am
by silvertongue
zinger wrote:Silvertongue, i apologise to you on behalf of my brother-in-faith Mumin_DB.
we orthrodox DBs, being bashed so often on this site, tend to sometimes loose control and lash out.
Its okay brother.. I understand. Kabhi kabhi hota hai.. Forget it..
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:57 am
by silvertongue
Alhamdolillah.. I thank to Allah innumerable times for helping me control my anger. And I appreciate your understanding as well. May Allah (SWT) Bless you.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:21 am
by anajmi
I saw the video and I have to say that the entire episode was staged. Do you see how the guy apologizes while holding on to the microphone? Seriously? Humility should not be confused with self-humiliation.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:34 am
by anajmi
The prophet (saw) has said that a muslim should try to hide his brother's shortcomings from others. However, here we see a blatant disregard of that advise of the prophet (saw) where one "mumin" is humiliating another "mumin" in front of hundreds of other "mumins"!!
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:17 pm
by bohra_manus
zinger wrote:silvertongue wrote:The structure and teachings of our community has totally changed. As we can see that people are now more dependent on our Dai, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, rather than having Faith in Allah (SWT). Most of the bohris dont greet by saying Assalam O Alaikum, or dont reply Alhamdolillah. Instead they say "Mola ni Dua che". or "Mola che to Saglu j che". Iev also heard an amil quote that Just like Allah is the Lord in the heavens, Burhanuddin Aqa is our Lord on Earth. These things are making the bohris more blind and taking away from the real Noor of Allah (SWT). In Sha Allah I hope someday they open their eyes and understand the real meaning of Islam and its teachings.
You have been hanging out or mingling with the wrong kind of people.
every DB that i have come across is either As salam aale kum or Kem cho bhai/ben and the reply has always been Waalekum as salam (not alhamdolillah) or Humme sara che bhai, tame kem cho
Bro. Zinger,
I partially agree with you on one thing, the response to "As salam aleykum" and disagree with the rest.
I agree that for "As salam aleykum" is generally responded with "Waaleykum Salam" but to "Kem cho" the response is "Maula ni doa thi fine che"
Even during discussions ladies mainly say "Ya Mola" instaed of "ya Allah". My own sisters and sister in laws do this so do many ladies.
Also ladies take "Maula's vasilo" when concerned with any thing.
Re: Allah(SWT) & Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:30 pm
by Al Fateh
zinger wrote:Silvertongue, i apologise to you on behalf of my brother-in-faith Mumin_DB.
we orthrodox DBs, being bashed so often on this site, tend to sometimes loose control and lash out.
so do u plan to give misaaq to part time dai of yours this year?
btw _DB isnt you brother in faith, he thinks dai is full time dai and always correct, while you think you dai can utter bullshiit and do nonsense some times. LOL