Knowledge level of Shahzada Mufaddal bhaisahab?

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Knowledge level of Shahzada Mufaddal bhaisahab?

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Unread post by badrijanab » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:16 am

Dear Mumin brothers & sisters,

Can someone enlighten us about the religious and worldly knowledge level of Shahzada Mufaddal sahib? How many years has he studied in Jamiya Saifiya, if any? Who were his teachers? Has he attended any English school out of Jamiya Saifiya, if yes, then what educational qualification he holds?

Like Burhanuddin sahab is Muffaddal sahab too "mohtaaz" of papers to read majlis and struggles if papers get jumbled?!!! Or is he knowledgeable enough in matter of Bohra maslaq deenyat to deliver majlis from his heart (without reading word by word from paper)?

Thanks

simple
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Unread post by simple » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:02 am

Avo napak khayal tamare ayo kem? ?? According to bohra doctrine you have committed thought crime ....
He is gaib na malik , natik e quran and allah on earth (upcoming)..

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:38 am

Well.. I did hear some of his Waaz and I find Him really good with the speech - ofcourse with the help of books from which he read. As far as English is concerned, he still lacks in fluency but thats language and its not that important for him. He has many of his deputes to speak on behalf of him if the time comes.

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Unread post by suleman » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:48 am

Allah On Earth ? what this means ?

Nafisa
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Unread post by Nafisa » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:18 pm

Mufaddal bhaisaheb's mastry over sentimental waaz is not hidden. His language is not as refine and sweet like hiss father. He used bambaya slang languge which is not literary. He and his ghost writers of Waaz are highly influenced by Bihaar ul Anwaar. what Syedna Burhanuddin collected in six months . Mufaddal arranged with in aa few days.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:01 pm

Mufaddal Maola has impeccable crdentials as far as his knowledge goes. First of all he is a Jamea graduate and beyond and he was one of the four Ameer ul Jamea. I don't know about his college education in a regular college. But he is a Ph. D from Jame al Azhar in Islamic history and culture etc. He was so impressive in Al Azhar University that his Ph. D advisor wrote a thesis on him while he himself was busy writing his Ph. D thesis. His all 3 sons are senior level ustads in Jamea and give sabaqs to other ustads in Jamea. One of his sons just a year ago also got a Ph. D from Al Azhar as well.
We all should be thankful that he has an earned Ph. D and not a bought Ph. D like quid Johnny who makes sure to use it with his name and Mufaddal Maola does not even use it.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:13 pm

With due respects to Al Azhar University and his Phds but what use is it when he makes laughable bayans like Imam Hussain's Ghoda having a lengthy conversation with him before shahadat and his brother Hozy speaking to him from grave and his fatwas curtailing the freedom of bohra women !!!

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Unread post by Al Fateh » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:35 am

Education is of no means, if it is not useful.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:35 am

How did he get his PhD....did he study a degree, then post graduate studies and thereafter a thesis?

What is his scholarly credentials ? Lectures, papers, conferences ?

In the West, Indian qualifications have a reputation of any quals is possible for a price ! Is this how he slogged it ?

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Unread post by Nafisa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:48 am

It is wrong that Mufaddal Bhaisaheb is graduated from Al Azhar. By the way inform the name of his (not earn so called) PhD adviser so I will arrange for him Ziyafat and Najwa. Around 20 Mullas team preparing for his biyaan round the year. What these people write their Saheb read without understanding. All the books published by his son Jafar was written by a few paid Jamea Ustad, which were refined further by competent scholars outside of the community. Some from Cairo University and some from Universities of USA.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:02 pm

The only qualification of mansoos as mentioned in wikipedia is :-

He is one of the four Omara' (Rectors) of Al Jamea'-tus-Saifiyah.

During the era of Syenda Taher Saifuddin, as a child, Syedi Mufaddal Saifuddin began the recitation of the Quran in Saifee Villa; Colombo, Sri Lanka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mufaddal_Saifuddin

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:54 am

Its not true that he was graduated from Al Azhar University, During 1972-74 he has attended some classes but could not completed his graduation. His English is not good and he use translator if needed during meetings. However he is good in Arabic language. I mean classical Arabic while spoken Arabic is not so good. He might have got honorary PHD degree being a donor from Al Azhar University. He learned his religious studies from his father and grand father at palace only.

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Unread post by asad » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:49 am

Mansoos's oratory skills are all there to see and be judged by listeners. He dosent rely on papers much like his father but this is sole reason he goofs up a lot. where ever he fumbles or dosent know he asks the audience and than says about situations that i think it would be like that only. Bohras have taken it as his speaking style instead of seeing it as his shortcoming.

His son Hussain has a lisp problem while delivering speeches hence he chooses only to recite Quran at Bohra Majlises and avoids giving any kind of waez.