Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

[juzer esmail]

Want to ask abdes does this kind of gimmicks really suits in Masjid especially in the days of Muharram? Do they really think this is cool and would mesmerized poor abdes?

Looks like Ganpati decoration:)

[Sheikh Ali sadiq]

yes kuffar does all such gimmicks in ganpati pandals to keep people engaged because they dont have any substance. its a shame Muffy is doing all this to keep people engaged, may be because he has no ILM to propagate.

Islam and Imam Hussain dont need all this gimmicks only their zikr is enough.

[Sheikh Ali sadiq]

today in 10 mins clip Muffy stupidly counted all the professions bohras are engaged in reading in one breath thinking it will look cool.

clearly he has nothing better to speak. Also I want to ask abdes how many professional colleges does community has? has he built any single universities where kids can study for free?

jamiya dont count its not free and its a moron making factory not an UNI

[Sakina Asif]

I agree!! why all this mighty shows! It looks like Eid celebration, now we have started the celebration of Moharrum just like Eid every year. This tamasha is going on for last few years now no red carpet, no band baja and barat, but now a new form started, a caravan of security guards and colorful lightings, a mela of joyous people! I have one question if you call yourself as Moula Hussain's Dai what path he is following, Moulana Hussain entered Karbala with ahle bait to face injustice and martyr himself for Allah subhanu talah's khushi and here he is coming with security guards like a KING, showing his power!! I feel pity on him as he has to face Allah subahu tallah Moula Hussain(AS) one day and has to answer all his deeds. He is not above Allah.May Allah show him right path!!!

[Sheikh Ali sadiq]

Right!!!

[TalibBhai]

whats next now?

[TalibBhai]

Why one should not choose his SON always, very interesting point in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv7dVbP ... miccontent

[AMAFHH]

Why one should not choose his SON always, very interesting point in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv7dVbP ... miccontent

really interesting i had the opportunity to listen his moharram lectures this clip is from that majalis

[TalibBhai]

The Fatemi Dawat could have made a significant impact if Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin (SKQ) had chosen someone other than his son as his successor. This decision would have sent a powerful message. However, since SKQ also appointed his own son, similar to how Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (SMB) did, it is difficult to criticize SMB for doing the same. With billions of dollars at stake, it's understandable why someone might not pass the leadership to a brother.

[yfm]

This is your opinion. How do we know you are right?

Example, I can only pass basic algebra and therefore have basic algebra knowledge. How can I claim I understand deeper algebra equations.

You are assuming we all will believe your hypothesis. But what if you don't have the deeper understanding why these actions are taken.

[zinger]

Why one should not choose his SON always, very interesting point in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv7dVbP ... miccontent

really interesting i had the opportunity to listen his moharram lectures this clip is from that majalis

very interesting. share some more clips like this

[TalibBhai]

Qutbi bohra claims that SMB was forced to keep silent and other people were operating, but the scene is different, when taizon sakir tried to bring zahir batin thing out SMB himself was upset and wanted to keep him silent.


On your website and in other places you have raved about his eminence Taizoon Bhaisaheb Shakir as a true believer of your cause. He is currently your appointed Aamil in Las Vegas. In 2003 he launched a website voicing his confusion about your absence from Syedna Muhammad Burhanuddin’s TUS hazarat and the questions he had at that time regarding the position of the Mazoon. Without his sisters’ and cousins’ permission, he recorded their private telephone conversations and posted them all over the internet, claiming he was doing a noble khidmat for Dawat. That year he didn’t show up at Zikra, however his wife Nisreen came. A little ways after the Devdi Aqa Moula Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin was coming from someones house after a ziyafat, and his wife Nisreen was near. Burhanuddin Moula called her and said (paraphrasing) “Where is Taizoon? Has he come? Tell him that he has hurt me deeply (ehne kaho ke maru ghanu dil dukhayu che).” Moula’s words were most probably in reference to the awkward website of his personal questions that he made public. Where you are elevating his actions as a pious deed (as you have done the same by making Dawoodi Bohra community affairs public knowledge on the internet) Burhanuddin Moula did not hold his actions in any kind regard whatsoever.

my point is SMB was perfectly involve in all this mess in current situation but both Muffy and Taheri gang wont agree on this because that will shake their basis.

[qutub_mamajiwala]

the biggest mistake of SMB was not to do nass publicly even he lived on for 102 years.
what was he waiting for?
ILHAM?
all of the present situation is result of this single mistake

[TalibBhai]

Most probably he was waiting for SKQ to pass because he had serious health issues, but he out lived SMB and SMB had no choice but to keep derailing NASS.

[allbird]

So gaib na jaagnar didn't know SKQ will outlive him ? Why is this dawaat only for ordinary bohras and Dai's are like demi-gods while within its all bhai-bhai mil-baat khar khayege

[TalibBhai]

So gaib na jaagnar didn't know SKQ will outlive him ? Why is this dawaat only for ordinary bohras and Dai's are like demi-gods while within its all bhai-bhai mil-baat khar khayege

The primary reason for the misguided beliefs within the Bohra community is their distance from the true teachings of the Quran. A person who reads and understands the Quran will never fall into such traps or submit to individuals making false claims. I knew many elders within the Bohra community who were wise and never crossed the boundaries of respect when it came to their leaders. Sadly, most of them have passed away. The new generation lacks awareness of the Quran's teachings. While some may have memorized the Quran, their memorization is of little value since they lack understanding of the profound wisdom contained within its verses.

[abu islam]

Interesting details from the court proceedings. It’s clear the judge found the Mullaji’s claims unsupported by religious texts or historical precedent. The distinction between worldly and religious ownership is crucial here. Thanks for sharing this detailed account.

[yfm]

When will we stop this topic and discuss something of value so we can learn and prosper from each others knowledge and experience.

The dais whoever they are, are going on their lives and what we think and believe are not important to them.

What is important to us is what is important to share and discuss.

How can we improve the lives of each other and the lives of those we can improve.

Abde

[TalibBhai]

When will we stop this topic and discuss something of value so we can learn and prosper from each others knowledge and experience.

The dais whoever they are, are going on their lives and what we think and believe are not important to them.

What is important to us is what is important to share and discuss.

How can we improve the lives of each other and the lives of those we can improve.

Abde

first get out of abde (slave) mentality to start learning some thing. the way you call yourself abde is disgusting.

[yfm]

Thank you for your enlightenment. I will stop making myself disgusting. What else do you have to preach to me, TalibBhai so we can move forward or move on.

[TalibBhai]

Thank you for your enlightenment. I will stop making myself disgusting. What else do you have to preach to me, TalibBhai so we can move forward or move on.

Self-respect is the foundation upon which everything else in life is built. It’s the first step toward personal growth, success, and true fulfillment. When you respect yourself, you establish a set of values, boundaries, and standards that shape how you interact with the world and, more importantly, how the world interacts with you.

In both personal and professional life, self-respect gives you the confidence to make the right decisions, even when they’re tough. It allows you to walk away from situations that don’t align with your principles and protects you from compromising your values for the sake of others.

When you value yourself, you also encourage others to treat you with the same level of respect. This ripple effect of self-respect leads to stronger, more fulfilling relationships, better work performance, and greater personal contentment. It’s important to remember that self-respect is not about arrogance or superiority—it’s about knowing your worth and living in a way that reflects that.

Start by respecting yourself, and the rest will follow.

[Humsafar]

Thank you for your enlightenment. I will stop making myself disgusting. What else do you have to preach to me, TalibBhai so we can move forward or move on.

Self-respect is the foundation upon which everything else in life is built. It’s the first step toward personal growth, success, and true fulfillment. When you respect yourself, you establish a set of values, boundaries, and standards that shape how you interact with the world and, more importantly, how the world interacts with you.

In both personal and professional life, self-respect gives you the confidence to make the right decisions, even when they’re tough. It allows you to walk away from situations that don’t align with your principles and protects you from compromising your values for the sake of others.

When you value yourself, you also encourage others to treat you with the same level of respect. This ripple effect of self-respect leads to stronger, more fulfilling relationships, better work performance, and greater personal contentment. It’s important to remember that self-respect is not about arrogance or superiority—it’s about knowing your worth and living in a way that reflects that.

Start by respecting yourself, and the rest will follow.

I agree with this sentiment. But the language is so robotic, thanks to ChatGPT

[TalibBhai]

Self-respect is the foundation upon which everything else in life is built. It’s the first step toward personal growth, success, and true fulfillment. When you respect yourself, you establish a set of values, boundaries, and standards that shape how you interact with the world and, more importantly, how the world interacts with you.

In both personal and professional life, self-respect gives you the confidence to make the right decisions, even when they’re tough. It allows you to walk away from situations that don’t align with your principles and protects you from compromising your values for the sake of others.

When you value yourself, you also encourage others to treat you with the same level of respect. This ripple effect of self-respect leads to stronger, more fulfilling relationships, better work performance, and greater personal contentment. It’s important to remember that self-respect is not about arrogance or superiority—it’s about knowing your worth and living in a way that reflects that.

Start by respecting yourself, and the rest will follow.

I agree with this sentiment. But the language is so robotic, thanks to ChatGPT

or may be a good education!!!

[QutbiBohra]

Why one should not choose his SON always, very interesting point in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv7dVbP ... miccontent

Koi ni paase aa vieo chhey? Youtube ye kadhi nakhyus.

[yfm]

You should check how the caliphate elected their caliphs. What were the requirements. One was no sons.

[TalibBhai]

Only Muawiyaa lanati appointed his own son YAZEEED lanati.

this can be also a sign

[yfm]

What sign, Talibbhai?

[yfm]

I only know one who caused havoc and appointed his son but father and son did not win a case adjudicated by a Hindu, which does not mean Hinduism do not dispense good judgement, but bohra dai, an abdi of Imam, should have gone to the Imam himself, don't you agree?

Pur community is being broken up by man of calibre like Muawiyaa and not Imam Ali, who endured everything to keep the community united.

I think the only dai in the present time who comes close to Imam Ali, is Seyedna Muffaddal, son of Mohamed Burhanuddin, don't you agree?

His case prevailed so the other side should honorably give allegiance to Seyedna Muffaddal because the lose was the one who went to a Hindu Judge, instead of the imam, don't you agree?

[zinger]

I only know one who caused havoc and appointed his son but father and son did not win a case adjudicated by a Hindu, which does not mean Hinduism do not dispense good judgement, but bohra dai, an abdi of Imam, should have gone to the Imam himself, don't you agree?

Pur community is being broken up by man of calibre like Muawiyaa and not Imam Ali, who endured everything to keep the community united.

I think the only dai in the present time who comes close to Imam Ali, is Seyedna Muffaddal, son of Mohamed Burhanuddin, don't you agree?

His case prevailed so the other side should honorably give allegiance to Seyedna Muffaddal because the lose was the one who went to a Hindu Judge, instead of the imam, don't you agree?

if you and your neighbour have a fight and someone from their side break your nose, will you go the cops or will you go to Badri Mahal?

[yfm]

First of all, if I followed Badri Mahal in the first place, I would not be in a position where there would be violence with our neighbours. Badri Mahal has always guided us to peaceful resolution. That has been the Badri Mahal fundamentals. That is why we bohras have been peaceful community. Of course Shaytan like the Kutbuddins have caused rift between the community only because of power struggles. Who cares who the right Dai is. All we care is that the right dai has been appointed by Seyedna Mohammed Burhannidin. Don't you agree?