Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Social Awareness
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:34 am

Translate this in GUJARATI and spread in whatsapp groups, most ppl are unaware of history they think every thing is rosy and pinkish in Bohras

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:32 am

ppl talking on whatsapp

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by allbird » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:25 am

on what group please share links

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:17 am

allbird wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:25 am on what group please share links
Private chats, dont have link, ppl does knows about case now



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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:04 am

Yes any dumb can become dai (fake one) no qualification is required. thats what courts are saying.

I dont remeber if any of these guys have done any extraordinary work in the field of religion or in society which can prove they are really guided by a supreme being.

no books or no such achievement by them which can become a daleel for them.

present dawat is their baap ki jaagir they are just fighting to prove their baap dada owned it and now they are the successors.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:08 pm

It is beautiful to see a Hindu judge pointing out the hypocrisies in the Bohra religion!! And the Bohra would be Dais shooting themselves in the foot and their heads in trying to upend each other. Only problem is that the Bohra masses are just bigger fools.


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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:49 am

In covid times Muffy was chilling in Srilanka and taher was in US on his 1000 acre property.

People should not forget how these so called leaders remained invisible in dire times and poped up again as soon as things got normal.

People dont get fooled again


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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:01 am

gulla chor is still stealing galla money from all the roza every year.

team of people comes opens gulla and take away all the money collected all the year, actually this money is supposed to be used for the roza repair and other work.




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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:52 am

never-ending circle LOL

Taheri gang is intentionally not accepting that SMB ne inki waat jaan booj kar lagayi hai because that will bring the house of cards down.

_Zulfikaar_
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by _Zulfikaar_ » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:44 am

I am just happy with the indian judicial system that just because of this case we are able to see the underbelly of this corrupt muaviyan establishment. Brother kills brother losers !!!!

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:04 pm

how long will they keep discussing same thing? when is final verdict?


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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:08 am

This day's hearing did not go really well for DMBS..
Many significant flaws were brought out regarding the audio and video...this does not bode well for the defendant.
DMBS: Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by james » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:06 am

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:08 am
This day's hearing did not go really well for DMBS..
Many significant flaws were brought out regarding the audio and video...this does not bode well for the defendant.
DMBS: Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
Au contraire the article author is either lethargic or has a tremendous bias because it was one of the most damning days for the Plaintiff in the trial. The Judge really laid into the Plaintiff's side on the 4th June 2011 Nass Note prepared by Mr Desai. The Judge emphatically rejected their conjectural arguments on the Hospital events because they didn't bring their Doctor experts in the court nor they brought the SLT in the court on whose notes they based their whole nonsensical arguments on.The Judge even quipped that in which Universe, does a SLT come over a Physician/Surgeon in the pecking order? Even had to say that the "T" in SLT stands for Therapist. :mrgreen:

The Judge even had to school Mr Desai to remove "Lack of capacity" for the 52nd Dai RA in their submissions because it would have far bigger implications than the suit he is judging over. He even had to comment that "Lack of capacity" falls into the realm of fallibility and down the line PW2 may have problems if they say 52nd Dai lacked capacity (Nauzobillah) The Plaintiff's side backed down and removed the defamatory words of "lack of capacity" from all their notes.

The Judge directly asked if they are disputing the words "Mufaddal bhai ne nass nu taj" in the video. IIRC Mr Desai said No. The Plaintiff's side tried the tactic that "Pehnavu che" isn't audible nor was it said after "Mufaddal bhai ne nass nu taj" in the 20th June 2011 video. Again the Judge had to teach Mr Desai that there isn't any prescribed Nass sentence to be uttered by the One conferring Nass.

As for the audio of 4th June 2011, The Judge directly asked on what grounds are they calling the Audio as doctored. Do they mean Computer Stimulated, Deep Fake, Someone else's voice, etc. Mr Desai replied in the negative. The Judge also asked if they are disputing the words "Mufaddal bhai ne dawat na rutba ma charaya che" in the audio which he heard. Mr Desai replied in the negative.

Even the Wednesday hearing was very short because he threw out all the notes prepared by Mr Desai and wrapped things up. I expect Lanati AbdulGavi will be a lot more animated in this year's hate filled propaganda preparations in the holy month of Sherullah seeing the ways things are going on in court. :oops:


When in a hole, stop digging. :roll:

Wait.. continue to do so. It is pretty easy to debunk your lies. :mrgreen:

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:08 pm

He even had to comment that "Lack of capacity" falls into the realm of fallibility and down the line PW2 may have problems if they say 52nd Dai lacked capacity (Nauzobillah) The Plaintiff's side backed down and removed the defamatory words of "lack of capacity" from all their notes.

yeah SMB had the capacity to lift Himalaya on his dead bed.


damn idiots are not ready to accept that every human has limitations and there is no crime or matter of being shy to accept it.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Social Awareness » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:13 pm

I have no doubt SMB made his son dai and said all in the video, but that also makes him greedy and a hypocrite who dispossessed his father's last will for money and ditched his half brother.

money started pouring in since 1980 and since then bohra dawat is all about money/greed and business.



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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by BilalAhmad » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:32 am

In Bombay High Court, they argued and debated,
On who should lead and be elevated,
The Dawoodi Bohra community awaited,
As Syedna Fakhruddin's final arguments were stated.

The lawyer made several key points,
To prove his client's rightful appoint,
He said Nass can be made privately alone,
Without outside witnesses, it can be shown.

He presented a handwritten letter,
From the 51st Dai, showing he saw better,
That Syedna Qutbuddin was the 53rd Dai,
And that he foresaw the appointment, not by and by.

Video evidence was shown and played,
To prove Syedna Qutbuddin was accepted and addressed,
As the rightful successor between '65 and '88,
By Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, there was no debate.

Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's claims were disputed,
That he was appointed on four different occasions, refuted,
The hospital records showed no speaking ability,
And video evidence showed confusion, not clarity.

Claims of Nass appointments in '05 and '69 were questioned,
Numerous inconsistencies and changes in witness accounts were mentioned,
A notebook presented as evidence for the '69 appointment was doubted,
As the witnesses continued to offer sajda to Syedna Qutbuddin, until they departed.

Lastly, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's position was opposed,
That Nass can be changed and new appointments proposed,
The example of the 5th, 6th and 7th Imam was given,
Where the appointments were irrevocable, and never rewritten.

Now the court will hear from Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's side,
On March 30th, 31st, April 3rd, and 5th, the court will abide,
Until then, the Dawoodi Bohra community waits,
For the verdict that will decide their future and fate.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by zinger » Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:58 am

BilalAhmad wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:32 am In Bombay High Court, they argued and debated,
On who should lead and be elevated,
The Dawoodi Bohra community awaited,
As Syedna Fakhruddin's final arguments were stated.

The lawyer made several key points,
To prove his client's rightful appoint,
He said Nass can be made privately alone,
Without outside witnesses, it can be shown.

He presented a handwritten letter,
From the 51st Dai, showing he saw better,
That Syedna Qutbuddin was the 53rd Dai,
And that he foresaw the appointment, not by and by.

Video evidence was shown and played,
To prove Syedna Qutbuddin was accepted and addressed,
As the rightful successor between '65 and '88,
By Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, there was no debate.

Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's claims were disputed,
That he was appointed on four different occasions, refuted,
The hospital records showed no speaking ability,
And video evidence showed confusion, not clarity.

Claims of Nass appointments in '05 and '69 were questioned,
Numerous inconsistencies and changes in witness accounts were mentioned,
A notebook presented as evidence for the '69 appointment was doubted,
As the witnesses continued to offer sajda to Syedna Qutbuddin, until they departed.

Lastly, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's position was opposed,
That Nass can be changed and new appointments proposed,
The example of the 5th, 6th and 7th Imam was given,
Where the appointments were irrevocable, and never rewritten.

Now the court will hear from Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's side,
On March 30th, 31st, April 3rd, and 5th, the court will abide,
Until then, the Dawoodi Bohra community waits,
For the verdict that will decide their future and fate.

where have you been hiding all this time bro... :D :D :D

Love this

is it your original work?

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by _Zulfikaar_ » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:43 am

BilalAhmad wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:32 am In Bombay High Court, they argued and debated,
On who should lead and be elevated,
The Dawoodi Bohra community awaited,
As Syedna Fakhruddin's final arguments were stated.

The lawyer made several key points,
To prove his client's rightful appoint,
He said Nass can be made privately alone,
Without outside witnesses, it can be shown.

He presented a handwritten letter,
From the 51st Dai, showing he saw better,
That Syedna Qutbuddin was the 53rd Dai,
And that he foresaw the appointment, not by and by.

Video evidence was shown and played,
To prove Syedna Qutbuddin was accepted and addressed,
As the rightful successor between '65 and '88,
By Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, there was no debate.

Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's claims were disputed,
That he was appointed on four different occasions, refuted,
The hospital records showed no speaking ability,
And video evidence showed confusion, not clarity.

Claims of Nass appointments in '05 and '69 were questioned,
Numerous inconsistencies and changes in witness accounts were mentioned,
A notebook presented as evidence for the '69 appointment was doubted,
As the witnesses continued to offer sajda to Syedna Qutbuddin, until they departed.

Lastly, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's position was opposed,
That Nass can be changed and new appointments proposed,
The example of the 5th, 6th and 7th Imam was given,
Where the appointments were irrevocable, and never rewritten.

Now the court will hear from Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin's side,
On March 30th, 31st, April 3rd, and 5th, the court will abide,
Until then, the Dawoodi Bohra community waits,
For the verdict that will decide their future and fate.
Imagine Eminem rapping on it, it would be a real blockbuster...

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:23 am

_Zulfikaar_ wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:43 am

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imagine Eminem in a Kurta Saya Topi rapping to this... now that my friend, is a real blockbuster :lol: