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17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:51 am
by questions
Just curious what is the significance of 17th raat washek ? Why not 15 ?

Of course 19, 21 and 23 is fine for washed although I cannot understand why people say 19 and 21 Mubarak ? ! I mean aap Kay maa baap ki barsi par Mubarak badi qabool Karo gay Kiya ?

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:21 am
by SBM
questions wrote:Just curious what is the significance of 17th raat washek ? Why not 15 ?

Of course 19, 21 and 23 is fine for washed although I cannot understand why people say 19 and 21 Mubarak ? ! I mean aap Kay maa baap ki barsi par Mubarak badi qabool Karo gay Kiya ?
Same way they say "Ashraa Mubarak" Imam Hussain and his family gave Shaadat and we say Ashra Mubarak so logic does not prevail amongst Bohras

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:25 pm
by DisillusionedDB
Milad is also mubarak and shahadat/wafat is also mubarak.

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:10 pm
by anajmi
Cause Hussain (ra) died to make life better for the Dai and his minions. Hence it is all Mubarak for them.

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:23 pm
by WiththenameofAllah
What is the history and importance of washik ? Does it come from Rasool Allah S.A.W 's or mola Ali's time ?

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:08 pm
by ghulam muhammed
Which Dai introduced washeks and why ?

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:00 pm
by salaar
The word vashek comes from some Sanskrit word vaveshek or something which means new. It was considered as a new form of namaz therefore named vashek. It was introduced in the time of syedna Idrees Imaduddin Maula the 19th dai. Iam a little doubtful about the dai in whose period it started but most likely it was Syedna Idrees. This is a kind of nafil namaz to be performed on auspicious nights like 17th which is connected to Maulatena Fatima binte As ad the Ma sahiba of Maula Ali.

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:34 pm
by ghulam muhammed
watsup msg :

"Washek ni rasam ni ibteda"

"Washek" ni rasam 11 ma Al Dai Syedna Ibrahim bin Syedna Hussain (Hisne Aff'eada-Yemen) na zaman ma shuru thai.

Hind ma old zaman ma mumenin bhi Sanskrit bolta, to aa navi qisam ni namaz hati to ehne Hindustani mumenin ye WISHESHTA naam aapu, meaning "something different" in Sanskrit. Kem ke aa missal ni daraz namaz pehle koi hati nahi, dhire dhire zaman na saathe aa namaz no naam short thatu gayu ane logo ene WASHEK si bulavta thaya.

Burhanuddin Mola niyat le te pehla farmavta CHOVIS RAKAT BAAR SALAM NAMAZ PARHO..."Washek" no lavz nohta farmavta..

Excerpts from Muqaddas Shehzada Muhammed ul Baqir BS Jamaluddin's bayan.

Re: 17 th raat

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:56 pm
by salaar
Thanks for the correction