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This is always amazing & common to see... denigrate Science whenever it remotely contradicts any religious beliefs. But at the same time constantly try to rationalize and justify religious beliefs using Science, and mooch off on the credibility and respect that comes along with it. If you are ...

Still garbage coming out from THE troll/village idiot on this forum.. yeah, now a days he only bows down to his imaginary father figures, not the humans who claim to represent them.. It's like a slave saying that now I only bow down to one true master over all others...but of course, I still am a ...

You are clearly one of THE most paranoid and unbelievably ignorant person on this forum, I think even worse than anajmi... and people know how ignorant he is. It is painfully obvious that all you do is nothing but spend all your time on these false, totally erroneous "blame all your problems on the ...

Hey All,

Since there has been a lot of discussion on Human Ethics and Morality on this forum, I thought to post this link to a video of a TED Talk, which took place recently in Feb 2010. I encourage anyone, who is interested in the discourse of Human morality and it's connection to Science and ...

Al Zulfiqar,

I completely understand the point you are making & where you are coming from. When I first visited this website, I was (and still am) really impressed by the amount of information available and the progress made by the reformists in the exposing and limiting the abuse of kothar all ...

Aarif,

I asked you what was the best argument or evidence written in the Quran that convinced you that the book is not man made, but in fact the spoken word of a supernatural celestial being... and you gave a few points so thank you! I have come across these arguments before, from Muslims and ...

First of all one correction from my previous post...I actually meant that fundis like anajmi "put the cart before the horse".. as in, they decide on the conclusion first, and then desperately look for confirming evidence and arguments.

As for the Bible, there is way more to it than just the four ...

Aarif,

The notion that because Islam brought dramatic change in whole of Arabia in face of strong opposition by majority of people, but then was eventually victorious is pretty much the cliche story of many other religions and is not limited to only Islam. That itself doesn't prove the religion is ...

Name calling will not make the questions go away..

Backbone is not the same thing as testicles... Semen production has nothing to do with the backbone!

Aarif,

I know what you are trying to say but it is you who is missing the point repeatedly. What the followers of Syedna consider themselves is irrelevant to the debate. The fact is that both, Syedna and Prophet Mohammed make extraordinary claims to their followers without providing extraordinary ...

Aarif,

As I wrote before, I am not comparing Syedna with prophet Muhammed but I am comparing followers of Syedna with the followers of Prophet Muhammed. Both religious leaders make the positive claim about having two-way communication with the almighty, without proving it or giving any evidence for ...

Zeal,

What I meant with extension of the original storyline was the main story & premise from Adam & Eve (Adam & Hawwa) to Abraham (Ibrahim) to all the characters after that. Bible having many versions over the years has nothing to do with the argument...unless you are suggesting that the original ...

Aarif,

Thank you for bringing the thread back to a sane and productive level. You have directly & genuinely tried to answer some of the main questions raised and I sincerely appreciate that. To begin with..I know that Quran does mention most if not all the important figures from Judaism and ...

With every post made by anajmi, it becomes more and more evident how massive is his level of ignorance and to be honest...his severely limited cognitive capacity to comprehend basic sentences. Evidently, the guy has not even read the one and only book he claims to have read...I guess he doesn't know ...

Aarif,

It is not a matter of controversy or something blown out of proportion. You wrote that "For those who are seeking proof of God, this is a good one". Well it's not a good one by any standards. Either words mean something or they don't. From what you wrote, the only meaning I could take out ...

Aarif,

I hope you are not actually considering this as credible evidence to prove the existence of Allah. C'mon...are you serious?? I don't know where you live but if you are remotely familiar with any other religion than Islam, you should know that this sort of pseudo or false patterns & images ...

Mustansir,

In your rabble you actually proved my point that human beings did not evolve but were created .

So to put it simply, anajmi and people who "think" like him (very very loosely using the word) will "believe" in anything and everything without even understanding it first , as long as it ...

Al Zulfiqar,

I am glad you liked the videos. When it comes to Astronomy, I for sure have not read as much as you have and not taken as much initiative as you have to continuously learn more in this subject, but I try my best. The series you are talking about was indeed Cosmos and unfortunately, it ...

Hey All,

For those, who may not have watched these videos before, here are the links. The first one is a short humble description of our planet - 'The Pale Blue Dot' by one of the best known astrophysicist Carl Sagan. And the second one is a very recent clip (released Dec 15, 2009) from the ...

Safiuddin, thank you for your comments. I have been corrected on that particular mistake of mine that this website is more about the social reform in the current top-down monarchy we have in the Dawoodi Bohra community. And of course, I am on the same page as you are when it comes to the existence ...

Aarif, I couldn't agree more with what you wrote above. In few lines you hit the nail right on the head. There is no sure way to know what happens after death, irrelevant of whether you are a believer or a non-believer. Plus, one can believe in anything they want to as long as it doesn't cause harm ...

Aarif,

I am sorry if it came across that I was nit-picking but I didn't want any muddling of information or the derived conclusions. As for the creation of the Universe, well the workings of the Universe is not limited to yours or anybody else's imagination. A lot of things were beyond human ...

Aarif,

What you wrote before was – “Even the greatest of scientists are highly religious”. And that’s why I thought you were talking about Scientists who are still alive. But if you go way back in history to Newton, yes, he was religious, as most of the other scientist in his time. Newton also ...

Aarif,

I understand where you're coming from and I guess it's just a different way of looking at life. However, there are few things where I would disagree with you. When it comes to forming an opinion about something or trying to come to a provisional conclusion about anything or anyone based on ...

Aarif,

The issue of the origin of ethics and morality you raise is very important and is disappointingly one of the primary reasons many people hold on to their religious views. As soon as someone raises the possibility that there might be no God or Gods at all, the question that usually follows is ...

Great posts by Porus, Humasafar & Biradar.

Humsafar – I really liked what you wrote on the evolution of human consciousness and you are on the ball with that. However, I personally don’t think there is any merit to the whole movement of Post-modernism and am on the same page as Biradar. The ...

Biradar,

I thoroughly agree with the points you made to Porus and especially Humsafar. We cannot simply raise our hands in the air and say that all ideas deserve equal respect and they all hold equally validity. I also agree with most of the points you made to me. Yes , there are clear limitations ...

Porus, I am very familiar with the NOMA concept and in fact, have read about it thoroughly and in great lengths...primarily because the person who came up with this idea and even coined the phrase “Non-overlapping Magisteria” was one of the most credible evolutionary biologist and a palaeontologist ...

The above argument is not a proper scientific one, it is simply a logical one. The fundamental claims made by three major monotheistic religions are mutually exclusive and ergo, they all can't be true. I did study all these religions & that's how I come to this logical conclusion. It is almost ...