Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by HMALAK » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:26 am

Any Updates on how much Money was collected in Godhara?
Also there is an announcement of the visits to Dahod, Bhabhra and Jhallod.. I hope there is no much Loot there by Syedna Saheb...!!!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:52 am

Muffy is a total right off, all his crazy Initiaives...cannot take any more burden ..but question is this son Jaffer Sadiq potential 54th any better or worse ...who knows his character

is the worst over or is Muffy going to grind us further and his heir will go a few gears lower to grind us to end!

is there hope in our lifetime to see change for the better or we just give up all hope like North korea .

Even Iran has hope for a better future ...they may see better days sooner

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by hamhyd » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:40 am

Bohra spring wrote:Muffy is a total right off, all his crazy Initiaives...cannot take any more burden ..but question is this son Jaffer Sadiq potential 54th any better or worse ...who knows his character

is the worst over or is Muffy going to grind us further and his heir will go a few gears lower to grind us to end!

is there hope in our lifetime to see change for the better or we just give up all hope like North korea .

Even Iran has hope for a better future ...they may see better days sooner

dont keep any hopes from this so called dawat care taker

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:40 am

how can he be a caretaker of any sorts?. just think, at every step there is his honcho to screw things up. For every little request there is red tape. Raza for every little thing. Have known people ask local amil to aarz razaa from muffy several times for the same thing.
no mulla anywhere would demand any o.k. from anywhere to conduct nikah and would willingly do it simply because it is a good deed to join two hands in holy matrimony, but in the bohri religion one has to have "safai chithi" from the local amil for nikkah to be conducte: . you want to go for haj you need safai chithi, you want to have majlis you need safai chithi and the list goes on.
My question , who are these corrupt amils who do not even look at their sins but demand safai chithi from mumineen. and from where on earth and by whom this safai chithi tetm was coined? How can this amil know that by me procuring a safai chithi tthat I am cleared to go to heaven and the nikkah would be legit from Allah.. This safai chithi system should be completely abolished. It is another tactic to control the guillables . There is no need to take raza for the same thing several times. This is pure stupidity. Nothing changes by asking for raza several times. It is your deeds and not muffys raza that will make things happen. Believe in Allah and not in Muffy. After all he is just skin and bones like you.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:09 am

Safai Chitthi is a financial clearance, who care about sin, amal and character of the mumin, if jamat is paid their demands, safai chitti is an asswipe thereafter.

Kothar is cashing on the addiction of people's social dependence. this social dependence is linked with economy of bohra businessmen. thus many oblige ..

and then there are some fantastic abde idiots who present themselves for first class ticket to heaven. dai is up for sale for the highest bidder. paisa pheko and muffy khush huaa !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:41 am

Class III textbooks in Jodhpur name rape accused Asaram as 'great saint' :lol:

you see how easy it is for these guys to manipulate things?

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-cl ... nt-2110310

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:22 pm

AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!

Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:04 pm

AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!

Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
The salt is given so Abdes/Amtes can rub on their wounds and enjoy the agony before the Ashura.
ZAKHAM PER NIMAK CHIDKNA koi SMS sey sikhe.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:44 pm

Abdes will lap it up. Moula su azeem Karam ane Ehsan chhe! Moula to Moulaj chhe.

What's seen from all this is that these guys are so greedy and hard up in life that after minting money like crazy, they give things like salt. Small hearts.

Moreover it keeps the hysteria going. New and new methods are found to keep the people distracted & in a perpetual sense of hysteria
ghulam muhammed wrote:AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!

Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by hamhyd » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:38 am

SBM wrote:
AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!

Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
The salt is given so Abdes/Amtes can rub on their wounds and enjoy the agony before the Ashura.
ZAKHAM PER NIMAK CHIDKNA koi SMS sey sikhe.

may be he think givinf namak make this people namak halal

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:23 am

Or in India before they slaughter a sheep or Goat they always give them Salt water so may be these are the signs of time. :(

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:33 pm

IT SEEMS THE GUY IS HOLDING A CHEQUE BEING THE "HAFTA VASOOLI" GIVEN TO MUFFY DURING HIS JET SPEED VISIT TO DAHOD !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:45 pm

WHAT IS HE UPTO ???

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:35 pm

^
New title for SMS
Mansur Ul Mango since Yemen is in turmoil. :)

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:38 pm

^
Did they weigh him in mangoes?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:22 pm

Wikipedia has removed Muffy's name from the list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais :-

51. Taher Saifuddin
Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jamaluddin, Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin

52. Mohammad Burhanuddin
Dai period: 1385 AH-1435 AH/ 1965 AD— Jan 2014Place of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 16 Rabiul Awwal,1435 AH, Jan 17,2014Mazoon: Syedi Khuzaima Qutbuddin.Mukaserin: Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin, Syedi Husain Husamuddin

53. 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra)

Disputed between two claimants, Khuzaima Qutbuddin and Mufaddal Saifuddin


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... oodi_Bohra

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:11 pm

Now how will the Imam know who the rightful Dai is? :mrgreen:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Sceptical » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:49 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Wikipedia has removed Muffy's name from the list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais :-

51. Taher Saifuddin
Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jamaluddin, Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin

52. Mohammad Burhanuddin
Dai period: 1385 AH-1435 AH/ 1965 AD— Jan 2014Place of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 16 Rabiul Awwal,1435 AH, Jan 17,2014Mazoon: Syedi Khuzaima Qutbuddin.Mukaserin: Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin, Syedi Husain Husamuddin

53. 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra)

Disputed between two claimants, Khuzaima Qutbuddin and Mufaddal Saifuddin


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... oodi_Bohra
It was removed many months ago.
SMS fanatics had done many attenpts to defame SKQ on Wikipedia. But seems they "lost" this battle.
One of the most ridiculous attack was the original Qutbi Bohras article.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by alivasan » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:08 am

AgnosticIndian wrote:Abdes will lap it up. Moula su azeem Karam ane Ehsan chhe! Moula to Moulaj chhe.

What's seen from all this is that these guys are so greedy and hard up in life that after minting money like crazy, they give things like salt. Small hearts.

Moreover it keeps the hysteria going. New and new methods are found to keep the people distracted & in a perpetual sense of hysteria
ghulam muhammed wrote:AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!

Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi

16th Shawwal, 1436
Location: India, Vashi
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strongly agree..this mass hysteria has roots in previous generations who are to blame for this nonsense..its mooted in the fact that bohras are business minded even when it comes to religion or faith so there is always give and take relationship, all materialism which has nothing to do with islam, shia or faith..I consider myself unfortunate like many others that from day i was born I was brainwashed that its spirtuality factor in majlis drama, jaman pada pari, kept waiting like fool for haramzada to come and board auto..there is only materialism side to it..I was proved wrong all the time and kept becoming victim like fool untill fully awakened and pity on this as grown up would have better utilized time and money elsewhere would have been in much better shape..as gujarati saying goes ..."'jagya thayathi sawar"".

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:01 pm

First it was nariyal, now its mango... Banana seems to be the proper fruit considering the bohra community is similar to a banana republic whose deifintion is as follows

"Banana republic is a political science word. It is used for a politically unstable country. Usually, the country's economy depends on the export of one product. Sometimes fruits or minerals. A banana republic has stratified social classes. These include a large, poor working class and a small ruling class made up of the businessmen, politicians, and the military.These people control the Primary sector of the economy. They exploit the country's economy."

The above definition fits the bohra community perfectly. The Kothar's income depends on selling one product - 'Jannat'. Bohra community has stratified social classes (Shaikhs, Mullahs, NKDs and different colored safai chitthis). 1 Family Ruling class and their politicians (Aamils, Tanzeem etc) who control the entire business. A small number of favorable businessmen who enjoy funding from Qardan funds gathered from masses. And then there is the large and poor working class that oils the entire machinery like slaves and are exploited by the ruling class to the fullest.
Adam wrote:
@Adam : Am I wrong?

Let's see if Adam replies!


ghulam muhammed wrote:WHAT IS HE UPTO ???

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by think » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:04 pm

better late than never,; at least you are now free , hope others would understand the deep happiness and foloow your footsteps , specially our young generation.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:28 pm

anajmi wrote:Now how will the Imam know who the rightful Dai is? :mrgreen:
After Justice Gautam Patel whispers in his ears instead of he whispering in the Dai's ears as per Bohra fairy tales :mrgreen:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by bohra_manus » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:33 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:WHAT IS HE UPTO ???

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May be he is trying to be an "aam" admi :D

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:03 am

these days babas are getting arrested in India. asharam baba,radhe babe, now some more baba, lets see when muffy baba see jail time.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/odisha/sr ... html?v=123

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:01 am

radhe babe getting behosh due to media questions....She is also about to get arrested.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/videos/to ... 43664.html

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:31 pm

‘The masses have never thirsted after truth...Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.’

—Gustave Le Bon in The Crowd

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:17 am

VID-20150813-WA0010.mp4
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Mola is gaib na Jankar so don't worry.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:59 am

^]
bohrabhai
Can you put more information on this video, Who are these people and where are they from and what are they talking about
It seems that some one is also coaching them about talking point.
Unless some better explanation is attached with the video, Admin should consider deleting since this may be doctored to malign this forum by Kothari Goons

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:42 am

SBM wrote:^]
bohrabhai
Can you put more information on this video, Who are these people and where are they from and what are they talking about
It seems that some one is also coaching them about talking point.
Unless some better explanation is attached with the video, Admin should consider deleting since this may be doctored to malign this forum by Kothari Goons
This is a reference to an earlier event (I cannot find it on this Forum, perhaps it was not posted here) in a place called Totana where SMS visited some old house and mentioned that there was a well in that house that either Syedna Burhanuddin RA or Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA had visited and he (SMS) was young at the time. The old man was later given Hadiyat and invited to ziyafat and apparently was given money (cheque) in order to rebuild the well. So this video appears to be about that incident where they are claiming that the Aamil took the money.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:05 pm

MUFFY IN MOMBASA...... PHOONK NU PANI...... ALSO READ THE MESSAGE PASTED ON THE WALL

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