Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
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Any Updates on how much Money was collected in Godhara?
Also there is an announcement of the visits to Dahod, Bhabhra and Jhallod.. I hope there is no much Loot there by Syedna Saheb...!!!
Also there is an announcement of the visits to Dahod, Bhabhra and Jhallod.. I hope there is no much Loot there by Syedna Saheb...!!!
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Muffy is a total right off, all his crazy Initiaives...cannot take any more burden ..but question is this son Jaffer Sadiq potential 54th any better or worse ...who knows his character
is the worst over or is Muffy going to grind us further and his heir will go a few gears lower to grind us to end!
is there hope in our lifetime to see change for the better or we just give up all hope like North korea .
Even Iran has hope for a better future ...they may see better days sooner
is the worst over or is Muffy going to grind us further and his heir will go a few gears lower to grind us to end!
is there hope in our lifetime to see change for the better or we just give up all hope like North korea .
Even Iran has hope for a better future ...they may see better days sooner
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Bohra spring wrote:Muffy is a total right off, all his crazy Initiaives...cannot take any more burden ..but question is this son Jaffer Sadiq potential 54th any better or worse ...who knows his character
is the worst over or is Muffy going to grind us further and his heir will go a few gears lower to grind us to end!
is there hope in our lifetime to see change for the better or we just give up all hope like North korea .
Even Iran has hope for a better future ...they may see better days sooner
dont keep any hopes from this so called dawat care taker
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how can he be a caretaker of any sorts?. just think, at every step there is his honcho to screw things up. For every little request there is red tape. Raza for every little thing. Have known people ask local amil to aarz razaa from muffy several times for the same thing.
no mulla anywhere would demand any o.k. from anywhere to conduct nikah and would willingly do it simply because it is a good deed to join two hands in holy matrimony, but in the bohri religion one has to have "safai chithi" from the local amil for nikkah to be conducte: . you want to go for haj you need safai chithi, you want to have majlis you need safai chithi and the list goes on.
My question , who are these corrupt amils who do not even look at their sins but demand safai chithi from mumineen. and from where on earth and by whom this safai chithi tetm was coined? How can this amil know that by me procuring a safai chithi tthat I am cleared to go to heaven and the nikkah would be legit from Allah.. This safai chithi system should be completely abolished. It is another tactic to control the guillables . There is no need to take raza for the same thing several times. This is pure stupidity. Nothing changes by asking for raza several times. It is your deeds and not muffys raza that will make things happen. Believe in Allah and not in Muffy. After all he is just skin and bones like you.
no mulla anywhere would demand any o.k. from anywhere to conduct nikah and would willingly do it simply because it is a good deed to join two hands in holy matrimony, but in the bohri religion one has to have "safai chithi" from the local amil for nikkah to be conducte: . you want to go for haj you need safai chithi, you want to have majlis you need safai chithi and the list goes on.
My question , who are these corrupt amils who do not even look at their sins but demand safai chithi from mumineen. and from where on earth and by whom this safai chithi tetm was coined? How can this amil know that by me procuring a safai chithi tthat I am cleared to go to heaven and the nikkah would be legit from Allah.. This safai chithi system should be completely abolished. It is another tactic to control the guillables . There is no need to take raza for the same thing several times. This is pure stupidity. Nothing changes by asking for raza several times. It is your deeds and not muffys raza that will make things happen. Believe in Allah and not in Muffy. After all he is just skin and bones like you.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Safai Chitthi is a financial clearance, who care about sin, amal and character of the mumin, if jamat is paid their demands, safai chitti is an asswipe thereafter.
Kothar is cashing on the addiction of people's social dependence. this social dependence is linked with economy of bohra businessmen. thus many oblige ..
and then there are some fantastic abde idiots who present themselves for first class ticket to heaven. dai is up for sale for the highest bidder. paisa pheko and muffy khush huaa !!
Kothar is cashing on the addiction of people's social dependence. this social dependence is linked with economy of bohra businessmen. thus many oblige ..
and then there are some fantastic abde idiots who present themselves for first class ticket to heaven. dai is up for sale for the highest bidder. paisa pheko and muffy khush huaa !!
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Class III textbooks in Jodhpur name rape accused Asaram as 'great saint'
you see how easy it is for these guys to manipulate things?
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-cl ... nt-2110310
you see how easy it is for these guys to manipulate things?
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-cl ... nt-2110310
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The salt is given so Abdes/Amtes can rub on their wounds and enjoy the agony before the Ashura.AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!
Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
ZAKHAM PER NIMAK CHIDKNA koi SMS sey sikhe.
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Abdes will lap it up. Moula su azeem Karam ane Ehsan chhe! Moula to Moulaj chhe.
What's seen from all this is that these guys are so greedy and hard up in life that after minting money like crazy, they give things like salt. Small hearts.
Moreover it keeps the hysteria going. New and new methods are found to keep the people distracted & in a perpetual sense of hysteria
What's seen from all this is that these guys are so greedy and hard up in life that after minting money like crazy, they give things like salt. Small hearts.
Moreover it keeps the hysteria going. New and new methods are found to keep the people distracted & in a perpetual sense of hysteria
ghulam muhammed wrote:AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!
Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
16th Shawwal, 1436
Location: India, Vashi.
Image deleted by Moderator as it is evident in GM's posting above
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SBM wrote:The salt is given so Abdes/Amtes can rub on their wounds and enjoy the agony before the Ashura.AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!
Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
ZAKHAM PER NIMAK CHIDKNA koi SMS sey sikhe.
may be he think givinf namak make this people namak halal
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Or in India before they slaughter a sheep or Goat they always give them Salt water so may be these are the signs of time.
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New title for SMS
Mansur Ul Mango since Yemen is in turmoil.
New title for SMS
Mansur Ul Mango since Yemen is in turmoil.
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Did they weigh him in mangoes?
Did they weigh him in mangoes?
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Wikipedia has removed Muffy's name from the list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais :-
51. Taher Saifuddin
Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jamaluddin, Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin
52. Mohammad Burhanuddin
Dai period: 1385 AH-1435 AH/ 1965 AD— Jan 2014Place of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 16 Rabiul Awwal,1435 AH, Jan 17,2014Mazoon: Syedi Khuzaima Qutbuddin.Mukaserin: Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin, Syedi Husain Husamuddin
53. 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra)
Disputed between two claimants, Khuzaima Qutbuddin and Mufaddal Saifuddin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... oodi_Bohra
51. Taher Saifuddin
Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jamaluddin, Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin
52. Mohammad Burhanuddin
Dai period: 1385 AH-1435 AH/ 1965 AD— Jan 2014Place of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 16 Rabiul Awwal,1435 AH, Jan 17,2014Mazoon: Syedi Khuzaima Qutbuddin.Mukaserin: Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin, Syedi Husain Husamuddin
53. 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra)
Disputed between two claimants, Khuzaima Qutbuddin and Mufaddal Saifuddin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... oodi_Bohra
Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
Now how will the Imam know who the rightful Dai is?
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It was removed many months ago.ghulam muhammed wrote:Wikipedia has removed Muffy's name from the list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais :-
51. Taher Saifuddin
Dai period: 1333–1385 AH/ 1915–1965 ADPlace of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 19 Rajab,1385 AHMawazeen: Syedi Dawood Shahabuddin, Syedi Fazal Qutbuddin, Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)Mukaserin: Syedi Ishaq Jamaluddin, Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin
52. Mohammad Burhanuddin
Dai period: 1385 AH-1435 AH/ 1965 AD— Jan 2014Place of dai office : Mumbai,IndiaDeath: 16 Rabiul Awwal,1435 AH, Jan 17,2014Mazoon: Syedi Khuzaima Qutbuddin.Mukaserin: Syedi Saleh Safiyuddin, Syedi Husain Husamuddin
53. 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra)
Disputed between two claimants, Khuzaima Qutbuddin and Mufaddal Saifuddin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... oodi_Bohra
SMS fanatics had done many attenpts to defame SKQ on Wikipedia. But seems they "lost" this battle.
One of the most ridiculous attack was the original Qutbi Bohras article.
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strongly agree..this mass hysteria has roots in previous generations who are to blame for this nonsense..its mooted in the fact that bohras are business minded even when it comes to religion or faith so there is always give and take relationship, all materialism which has nothing to do with islam, shia or faith..I consider myself unfortunate like many others that from day i was born I was brainwashed that its spirtuality factor in majlis drama, jaman pada pari, kept waiting like fool for haramzada to come and board auto..there is only materialism side to it..I was proved wrong all the time and kept becoming victim like fool untill fully awakened and pity on this as grown up would have better utilized time and money elsewhere would have been in much better shape..as gujarati saying goes ..."'jagya thayathi sawar"".AgnosticIndian wrote:Abdes will lap it up. Moula su azeem Karam ane Ehsan chhe! Moula to Moulaj chhe.
What's seen from all this is that these guys are so greedy and hard up in life that after minting money like crazy, they give things like salt. Small hearts.
Moreover it keeps the hysteria going. New and new methods are found to keep the people distracted & in a perpetual sense of hysteria
ghulam muhammed wrote:AFTER LOOTING BILLIONS, ABDES GET "A PINCH OF SALT" FROM MUFFY !!
Huzurala Tus taraf si shifa na namak no Hadiyo - Vashi
16th Shawwal, 1436
Location: India, Vashi.
Image deleted by Moderator as it is evident in GM's posting above
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First it was nariyal, now its mango... Banana seems to be the proper fruit considering the bohra community is similar to a banana republic whose deifintion is as follows
"Banana republic is a political science word. It is used for a politically unstable country. Usually, the country's economy depends on the export of one product. Sometimes fruits or minerals. A banana republic has stratified social classes. These include a large, poor working class and a small ruling class made up of the businessmen, politicians, and the military.These people control the Primary sector of the economy. They exploit the country's economy."
The above definition fits the bohra community perfectly. The Kothar's income depends on selling one product - 'Jannat'. Bohra community has stratified social classes (Shaikhs, Mullahs, NKDs and different colored safai chitthis). 1 Family Ruling class and their politicians (Aamils, Tanzeem etc) who control the entire business. A small number of favorable businessmen who enjoy funding from Qardan funds gathered from masses. And then there is the large and poor working class that oils the entire machinery like slaves and are exploited by the ruling class to the fullest.
Let's see if Adam replies!
"Banana republic is a political science word. It is used for a politically unstable country. Usually, the country's economy depends on the export of one product. Sometimes fruits or minerals. A banana republic has stratified social classes. These include a large, poor working class and a small ruling class made up of the businessmen, politicians, and the military.These people control the Primary sector of the economy. They exploit the country's economy."
The above definition fits the bohra community perfectly. The Kothar's income depends on selling one product - 'Jannat'. Bohra community has stratified social classes (Shaikhs, Mullahs, NKDs and different colored safai chitthis). 1 Family Ruling class and their politicians (Aamils, Tanzeem etc) who control the entire business. A small number of favorable businessmen who enjoy funding from Qardan funds gathered from masses. And then there is the large and poor working class that oils the entire machinery like slaves and are exploited by the ruling class to the fullest.
@Adam : Am I wrong?Adam wrote:
Let's see if Adam replies!
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better late than never,; at least you are now free , hope others would understand the deep happiness and foloow your footsteps , specially our young generation.
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After Justice Gautam Patel whispers in his ears instead of he whispering in the Dai's ears as per Bohra fairy talesanajmi wrote:Now how will the Imam know who the rightful Dai is?
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
May be he is trying to be an "aam" admi
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these days babas are getting arrested in India. asharam baba,radhe babe, now some more baba, lets see when muffy baba see jail time.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/odisha/sr ... html?v=123
http://zeenews.india.com/news/odisha/sr ... html?v=123
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radhe babe getting behosh due to media questions....She is also about to get arrested.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/videos/to ... 43664.html
http://zeenews.india.com/news/videos/to ... 43664.html
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‘The masses have never thirsted after truth...Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.’
—Gustave Le Bon in The Crowd
—Gustave Le Bon in The Crowd
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Mola is gaib na Jankar so don't worry.
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^]
bohrabhai
Can you put more information on this video, Who are these people and where are they from and what are they talking about
It seems that some one is also coaching them about talking point.
Unless some better explanation is attached with the video, Admin should consider deleting since this may be doctored to malign this forum by Kothari Goons
bohrabhai
Can you put more information on this video, Who are these people and where are they from and what are they talking about
It seems that some one is also coaching them about talking point.
Unless some better explanation is attached with the video, Admin should consider deleting since this may be doctored to malign this forum by Kothari Goons
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015
This is a reference to an earlier event (I cannot find it on this Forum, perhaps it was not posted here) in a place called Totana where SMS visited some old house and mentioned that there was a well in that house that either Syedna Burhanuddin RA or Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA had visited and he (SMS) was young at the time. The old man was later given Hadiyat and invited to ziyafat and apparently was given money (cheque) in order to rebuild the well. So this video appears to be about that incident where they are claiming that the Aamil took the money.SBM wrote:^]
bohrabhai
Can you put more information on this video, Who are these people and where are they from and what are they talking about
It seems that some one is also coaching them about talking point.
Unless some better explanation is attached with the video, Admin should consider deleting since this may be doctored to malign this forum by Kothari Goons
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