Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:55 am

Is there any official news on this withdrawal ?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:36 pm

Another SCAM in the offing !!

It is a known fact that the Saifee Mahal mafias knock down old Masjids or build new ones in order to extort money from the local Bohras which is a lot more then the actual cost of the project, it is almost 10 times the actual cost or sometimes even more. After the Bohras are squeezed of their last penny and the Masjid is constructed, the Dai is invited for innaugration for which he again charges fees which is equal to the cost of project and which runs into crores of rupees. The latest scam is the construction of a Masjid at Amreli, Gujarat. What is different about this scam is that even Jamats in other cities are roped in to extort money from their cities. A fatwa is issued recently to the Surat Bohras to 'contribute' in this scam :-

Baad as Salam il Jameel,

With regards to our previous emails for Amreli Masjid khidmat, please note that a contribution unit for the same has been fixed for Surat Jamiyat.

All Mafasih in Surat Jamiyat, can deposit their contribution amount with their Hizbul Mafasil Coordinator :
M. Juzar Sheikh Yusuf Badri (Mauze Surat)
+917383552552
juzer21552@gmail.com

He will answer any queries you have regarding the Masjid project and also issue a reciept for each contribution you make.

In case you have further queries that you cannot resolve through your coordinator, then please get in touch with below members (overall collection in-charge) :

M. Huzaifa Sheikh Haider bhai Saasa
hsaasa@gmail.com
+919820714552

OR

M. Mufaddal Sheikh Habil bhai Zaveri
mufaddalzaveri@gmail.co
+919819335152

Was Salaam.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:57 pm

fayyaaz wrote:An email is circulating which reports Isufali Kundawala claiming that the Global Peace Award awarded to Muffy has been retracted and that the Official of AICHLS, Joginder Bhadoriyah, has been terminated.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:20 pm

AFTER SLAUGHTERING HORDES OF ABDE GHETAS, MUFFY SLAUGHTERS THE REAL GHETA ON BAKRA EID !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:13 am

I guess, the ones whose kurtas have been bloodied is because they might have tried to do it deliberately as the gheta was killed by SMS n hence the blood was no longer normal blood for the abdes... It became shifa nu khoon!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#996

Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:53 am

kutt** Kamin*** me sifa ka khoon pi jaonga

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Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:10 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:ROTIWALA BABA PREPARING DABBAS IN KARACHI MASJID !!

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remake of mulla nasruddin starring muffy mulla Saifuddin ...title song...aya baba aya hai. Rotiwale belanwale tiffin ka baba cunning con artist nasruddin played by muffy chor

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#998

Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:56 am

Mr Raju did confirm that from legal standpoint muddy was not awardee and no award has been conferred on him.there was foul play by Bharodia against which stern action will be taken. Strongly appeal to reformist members to come forward and become member of human rights council so we have fair representation of reformist group.

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Unread post by Adam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:43 pm

[quote="ghulam muhammed"]AFTER SLAUGHTERING HORDES OF ABDE GHETAS, MUFFY SLAUGHTERS THE REAL GHETA ON BAKRA EID !!

So now you have a problem with the Islamic Ritual of Zabihat?
Are you even a Muslim?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1000

Unread post by anajmi » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:46 pm

Islamic rituals performed for the sake of pomp and show are no more Islamic than sajda to a human being.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:11 pm

Adam wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:AFTER SLAUGHTERING HORDES OF ABDE GHETAS, MUFFY SLAUGHTERS THE REAL GHETA ON BAKRA EID !!

So now you have a problem with the Islamic Ritual of Zabihat?
Are you even a Muslim?
Is present day Bohraism even close to Islam ??

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1002

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:07 pm

wats up msg

Forwarded as Received :

Aqa Maula TUS Programme :
Tuesday Morning 9.45 am Arrival Dubai by Emirates Airlines. Programme in Masjid Al Burhani, Namaz Zohar Asr and then depart for Houston by Turkish Airlines.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1003

Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:26 pm

Obama......COUNTDOWN 5,4,3,2,1...marads n bairis ...now may I present before u fools the gr8 showman of showbiz kothar magical wiz kid of burhanio the gr8 looter and hypocrite orator of west coast from times immemorial grandfathers taherio who looted in broad daylight west coast ...you will get to see whatever remained of burhanio from dakhli to be preserved by houston for barakat.some bones, white robes of black man, some of his scribbed writings on display for sell which will create waves for 10 days in minds of fools after doses the looter vanishes with loot

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Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:45 pm

The wave created for dead burhanio will be same sort like shown in hindi movie tees mar Khan where con keeps giving doses one after other for luv of nation while looting behind the scenes..in this case instead of luv for nation it wil be luv for burhanio..remembering dead with regular doses interval..kuutte ke muh se haddi aur muffy chor ki noto ki gaddi koi Nahi Chin sakta

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:49 pm

Thats strange coz Emirates itself has a direct flight to Houston from Dubai on its flagship A380 aircraft that is famed for its comfort and top-notch first class service.

Also, Turkish airlines flight to Houston from Istanbul is at 1320 hours so he cant take the same day flight.

And what happened to his anticipated London visit? You only posted about London bushra message! Did Dubai outbid London for the moolah? So it means, event transits are decided on bidding :p

ghulam muhammed wrote:wats up msg

Forwarded as Received :

Aqa Maula TUS Programme :
Tuesday Morning 9.45 am Arrival Dubai by Emirates Airlines. Programme in Masjid Al Burhani, Namaz Zohar Asr and then depart for Houston by Turkish Airlines.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1006

Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:10 pm

anajmi wrote:Islamic rituals performed for the sake of pomp and show are no more Islamic than sajda to a human being.

Strongly agree

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by summer123 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:48 am

forwarded as received

Tashrif Awri – 6 October 2015
Bushra!
Huzurala (TUS) is expected to arrive in Burhani Masjid, Dubai on Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at around 12 noon. Mumineen will get the Sharaf of Deedar Mubarak, Zohr/Asr Namaz and Maqdam Majlis inshaallah.  
For better management please note the following:
1 Mumineen must bring their ITS card for scanning. Entry in the Masjid will be strictly based on your actual ITS card - for the rest, provision has been made in the tent and sehan.
2 Entrance from Darul Emarat side is reserved for ladies until 11:00 am and Rahat. All others to use entrance from the main road side.
3 Mashaek must carry their pagdi
Transport and Parking:
Drop-off only in front of the Masjid (main road side). No parking or access to masjid via Darul Emarat side. Entrance to Darul Emarat via Lulu Hypermarket will be closed.
Mumineen should park by Crescent School and use the shuttle service. Shuttle service will be available to drop off and pick up passengers in the areas surrounding the Masjid as well as from the Lulu metro station.
Please note that after 1 o'clock is a peak time for school traffic. Please DO NOT come to masjid in your car to pick up passengers unless it is a rahat case. Even for rahat case, please wait until the school traffic is over.
Mumineen should carry Najwa-us-Shukr for this ne’mat
There will be a live relay from Burhani masjid to Saifee masjid.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1008

Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:54 pm

Name 1 sect/community who follow Sharia as it was suppose to be! I don't see any sect or community that follow Islam as it was suppose to be. Everyone follows Islam according to their own convenience and vested interests. No wonder, the plight of muslims and muslim world is as it is today. Most of the muslim countries are involved in conflict, most muslims are backwards. The western world has been successful to infiltrate the muslim world by using the Wahabbi states (Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE etc) as puppets and break it and push muslims back few centuries!
ghulam muhammed wrote:
Is present day Bohraism even close to Islam ??

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1009

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:04 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Salaam e Jameel
Kindly be informed that Moula TUS has graciously bestowed the Mumineen of Dubai with Deedar Sharaf enroute to America. Sagla farzando aavti kaale fajare school si raza lai Masjid e Burhani ma Deedar vaaste haazir thaai !!

P.S. First the fatwa was to bunk school for Mohurrum tamasha and now to bunk school for Deedar of this demi god.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1010

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Forwarded as Received :

Mufaddal Mola came to Gadi very recently.

In his boyhood, he never went to school. As per his family tradition, he paid a big sum to Aligarh Muslim University and bought Doctorate title, for impressing non-Bohra Foreign dignitaries.

One of his Dalal (broker) found a person named Joginder Singh Bhadoriyah who was connected with a group that each year give Global Peace Award. Mr. Bhadoriyah fraudulently gave year 2015 Global Peace Award award to Mufaddal Mola, without informing other members. Traditionally such awards are given on stage; but this fraudulent award was given in private.

When Dr, Kundawala from Dallas, USA, came to know about this fraud, he started calling various public figures in India for exposing this fraud. Because of his untiring efforts, Joginder Singh Bhadoriyah was fired. Now the organization is trying to find ways taking back this fraudulent award from Mufaddal Mola.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1011

Unread post by alivasan » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:04 pm

As per telecon chat with Advocate Anthony Raju last week of Human Rights Council based in new delhi from legal standpoint the awardee and award is not recognized or given in eyes of law since not conferred after consultation with all required members panel and was foul play by bharodiya who is fired, hence null and void effect and caution for such misuse in future. Isufali Kundawala had taken right step and we followed up with concerned people in delhi. Advocate Anthony Raju also expressed desire for having maximum participation by becoming member of council from reformist group.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1012

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:41 pm

Huzurala TUS performed Taasees of new MSB School in Dubai on 23rd Zilhajj 1435H

23rd Zilhajj, 1436
Location: DU, United Arab Emirates, MSB


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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:04 pm

^
Can some one please explain what is Tessis and what is inside the red bag in the cinder block. What is the significance of this ritual? Was it every done by Ahle Bayt or the Imams in the past?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1014

Unread post by alivasan » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:01 am

Most of crazy stuff mufflo does is just showbiz nothing to do with bohrism..forget islam tenets

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1015

Unread post by aflatoon » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:48 pm

tasees means laying of foundation stone

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:40 pm

Bohra e-jamaat cards raise privacy concerns, just like India’s UID

9 Oct 2015 Hindustan Times (Mumbai)MANOJ R NAIR

THE CARDS WERE ISSUED NEARLY A DECADE AGO, BUT RECENTLY THE DOCUMENTS WERE UPGRADED AS ‘SMART CARDS’ WITH THE RADIO-FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY

India’s Aadhaar card project continues to face logistical and legal hurdles, especially over concerns that it could breach privacy rights.

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined to change its own order in August that restricted the card’s use to only track food and cooking gas subsidies. The apex court said a constitutional bench needs to look at the issue whether the biometric card can be linked to other services.

While the country debates the benefits and risks posed by its Unique Identification number (UID) card project, a small but closely-knit sect largely based in western India, too, is arguing over the possibility that the identity cards issued by their religious establishment could be prying into their private lives.

Every member of the Dawoodi Bohra community has to carry what are known as ‘e-jamaat cards’.

The cards were issued nearly a decade ago, but recently the documents were upgraded as ‘ smart cards’ with the incorporation of radio- frequency technology.

The cards are used to record a person’s attendance at community events and to ensure that the holder completes all religious sacraments, including the controversial oath of allegiance to their spiritual leader and religious taxes.

The card is also used to gain access to community mosques, mausoleums and graveyards.

The card will also be used to record the declaration by members to attend the compulsory sermons during the coming period of Muharram.

“The card is expensive [it reportedly costs Rs5,000 to get one], but every Bohra is supposed to have the card if he or she want to access community properties or attend functions,” said a member of the community.

Last week, a group of community members released findings from an annual “Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras” that tracks opinion about community issues after the death of their last hereditary head, or Syedna, in January 2014.

Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half- brother of the l ast Syedna, has disputed the succession. The dispute is being heard by the Bombay high court.

While the survey said that there was widespread resentment against the order to attend the sermons, the Syedna’s office has dismissed the survey and said that the views of a few hundred people cannot represent the views in a million-strong community.

The organisers of the survey, on the other hand, have said that the sample survey was designed to have a low margin of error.

The survey has also raised concerns about the e-jamaat cards.

This is what the survey had to say about the document: To study the impact of such practices of intense scrutiny, data mining and intrusion by Syedna’s office, an independent and neutral platform is needed with no ties to its administration.

When this writer contacted the Syedna’s office for a comment, officials there declined to comment, saying they were busy with the preparations for the Muharram discourses.

But the community is rife with rumours that the cards can track every aspect of their lives.

A member of the community who spoke to this writer said there was concern that the card was used to track the whereabouts of members
.

“Earlier, it was just an identity card; now it has GPS features,” said the Dawoodi Bohra who was once an ardent supporter of the community religious leadership.

http://paper.hindustantimes.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1017

Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:20 pm

First Dai to Visit Dublin (Ireland)
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

#1018

Unread post by alivasan » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:52 am

Given that mufflos mischevous traits the below logical inference is drawn in fateli dawaat theory

PYN - SMB = SMS
where

PYN=Prince Yusuf Najmuddin
SMB=Sayedna mohammed burhanuddin
SMS=Sayedna muffadal saitanuddin

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by alam » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:17 pm

alivasan wrote:Given that mufflos mischevous traits the below logical inference is drawn in fateli dawaat theory

PYN - SMB = SMS
where

PYN=Prince Yusuf Najmuddin
SMB=Sayedna mohammed burhanuddin
SMS=Sayedna muffadal saitanuddin
Similarly
PYN - (STS+SMB) = SKQ

where SKQ = Sayedna Khuzema Qutbuddin

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics) - 2015

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Unread post by new_james » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:47 am

This video states the reasons why Muffadal Saifuddin "keeps on" getting awards
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