how shud I tackle with this amil?

[Yusuf]

ok recently I have shifted from london(I went for studies) to a small town of gujarat, I have started a mineral water plant over here, I have made niyyah I will pray namaz in mosque as much as possible, but here this Amil has some weird issue, he doesnt understands business people cant wear kurta saya all the time, he doesnt allows me to pray in formals, my clothes are not napak, yet I am not allowed to pray in mosque untill i wear kurta. lol

[asad]

you have two options. carry your kurta, topi with you or simply pray in any nearby Masjid of other Muslims, you will be more than welcome and no one will give a second look, not even the curious ones.

PS: Its amazing he is adamant on dress code as in my home town in India their was never a issue.

[mnoorani]

This i sa case everywhere.Unfortuntely you will not be able to fight this in India. In the Gulf you could threaten the Amil with legal action. The best aletrnative is to put aside a pair of kurta pajama and towel in the mosque. Many masjids now have a locker facillity. Avail it.

[think]

but, by doing this you will be cowing down to the amils wierd demands. Today this and tomorrow more wierd demands.

[mnoorani]

but, by doing this you will be cowing down to the amils wierd demands. Today this and tomorrow more wierd demands.

This young man has just returned from London and has started a new business. He wants to pray in the Bohra mosque with imamat. The best thing for him to do now is to obey the Amils rules. In fact all over the rules are same now. The only exception is for the namaaz e Janaza where the dress code is not followed..I sugesst that Yusuf concentrate more on his new business and not to get into any scuffle with the jamaat. Keep a low profile and make money to provide a good life for your family. By keeping a low profile you will not be forced to pay large wajebaats .
Put your energies into your business for the moment and keep a kurta pyjama or a namazi lungi at your work place and take it along to the mosque. Once you get used to the routine it will be an easy task. Good Luck.

[ghulam muhammed]

Other then the commercial benefits, this is one more reason that the dai insists on getting sole ownership of the masjid by way of waqf. In this manner he can make his own rules and have the liberty of permitting people of his choice in the masjid, Allah's choice of "any muslim" is not applicable here. One more area wherein he can subjugate gullible abdes and force them to follow his commands even if it is against Allah's commands.

Masjid has now become a commercial outlet wherein the dai and his coterie carries on their business of making money thru various mediums like a large size TV set, the various farmans for collecting innumerable taxes some of which are not as per Quranic injunctions and some of which are collected way above the prescribed limit in the Holy Quran. It has also become a medium to spit venom on various Islamic personalities revered by mainstream muslims which is a part of the dai's hidden agenda of dividing the ummah........... He is more influenced by the britishers then the Holy Quran who succeeded in ruling a major part of the globe with their slogan of "Divide and Rule" !!

[berasiawala]

The purpose of having a dress code for namaz is that the clothes are exculsively for namaz and are thus definately paak whereas other clothes that we wear outside may not be paak due to reasons like we sit in buses / trains / other places, are exposed to dirt / water in rain etc and it could get napaak with out without our knowledge although we are in taharaat and take due care of keeping our clothes in good order. Its good if this is followed.

However not allowing to pray in clothes other than kurta / pehran pyjama or lungi is wrong and in my opinion one should not bow down to such diktats. Its not possible to always carry kurta/pyjama as a person could be carrying other loads with him for his business purpose.

Secondly its not that this practice is everywhere, i go to many bohra mosques including prominent in mumbai but have prayed in shirt and pant and many others do the same. Thus this is not the rule but only that Amil trying to show off his power.
Its true that instead of confronting the Amil its better to pray alone after the imamat namaaz in civil dress.

Finally if this is the case then how come the burhani guards are allowed to pray in tight pants and shirts??

[Yusuf]

now I pray at my office, I had made niyyah to pray in mosque and Allah knows it, now if this Amil doesn't allows me to pray for some silly reason, gunnnah is on his head.

[mnoorani]

@ Yusuf,
Do not give up so easily.
Start keeping a pair of namaazi clothes in a bag with a face towel and lungi for changing clothes at the mosque. Try it our.Perhaps you will get used to it. Beleive me it will ot be difficult. I was once in a Rajasthan town for over year. There they had a small old mosque in the bazzar ,hidden amongst the shops. A shopkeeper who was also a Mulla was given the raza to lead the prayers. And since it was to serve the shopkeepers , all the men would have a pair of namazi clothes in the mosque. After wuzu we would change into namazi lungi and kurta /banyaan and pray. We had created a fraternity and we would also have iftaar there. It was a very old mosque enough for 30 -40 people. It had a large courtyard and wuzu facillities and toilets. It saddened me to know that the mosque has been rebuilt. The old masjid had that typical Rajasthani style and those decorative arches and stone pillars and It was strong enough.

[Yusuf]

I really dont have time for crap lungi and stuff, neither I am interested to keep a potli of clothes with me to pray in mosque, i have prayed for years in london with same clothes which I wear in office. Allah has not keep any restriction on clothes, and I wont waste my time on this silly uneducated Amil.

[mnoorani]

No pain, No gain.

[ahmedplumber]

Hey Yususf, chill.

Everyone has a different set of rules.

If some Aamil allowed you somewhere and some Aamil doesnt, then its their own value system.

Dont fret so much.

The Dawoodi Bohra Mulsim Masjid has rules, that you need a kurta to pray. So if you dont want to abide by the rule, then dont. Pray at office.

You are right. Ultimatelt, it is the niyyat that counts. i pray in office too during Ramzan, so its ok man.

[Yusuf]

No pain, No gain.

correct, if it was a quranic rule I would happily accept the pain, but why shud I bare a pain just because some illiterate guy dont have understanding of basic ISLAMIC rules.

next time if I confront him, i will ask him 2 questions.

Imam Ali use to dig well for his livelihood, did he use to keep changing clothes every time he prayed to Allah?

Imam Hussain prayed in the battle of karbala while his clothes were full of blood, why he didnt changed those clothes before praying to ALLAH?

because niyyah and amal is more important for prayers then clothes.

[ahmedplumber]

No pain, No gain.

correct, if it was a quranic rule I would happily accept the pain, but why shud I bare a pain just because some illiterate guy dont have understanding of basic ISLAMIC rules.

next time if I confront him, i will ask him 2 questions.

Imam Ali use to dig well for his livelihood, did he use to keep changing clothes every time he prayed to Allah?

Imam Hussain prayed in the battle of karbala while his clothes were full of blood, why he didnt changed those clothes before praying to ALLAH?

because niyyah and amal is more important for prayers then clothes.

2 very relevant questions Yusuf.

Let me know what he answers you. I will use the same ammunition if any Aamil bothers me in the future.

And you are right, the Niyyat is the most important.