Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat head?

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Maqbool
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Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat head?

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Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:30 am

Recently a prominent personality expired at Chennai in Ishna Ashari. He was buried near 1000 lights. He has done vasihat that since Fatema A.S. has no Kabar or shed on her kabar, for me no kabar should be made.
The head of the Fatemi Dawat claims that he is the only legitimate hairs of Panjatan Pak, Why they insists for marble kabars and big makbara?
Can abdes put some lights on this, specially the professor Adam.

KhalifatulRahman
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by KhalifatulRahman » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:27 am

its a personal choice, its neither bidah nor its fard, it depends on particular person....

if u go Ahmedabad u will see many bohra awliyah neither have solid kabr neither they have shed....but they are shaheed and very renowed near ALLAH...

u see true momeenin never cares about people, they just care to please ALLAH....if there is shed or not, they are in rehmat of ALLAH SUBHANU...

Fateh
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by Fateh » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:19 am

Maqbool wrote:Recently a prominent personality expired at Chennai in Ishna Ashari. He was buried near 1000 lights. He has done vasihat that since Fatema A.S. has no Kabar or shed on her kabar, for me no kabar should be made.
The head of the Fatemi Dawat claims that he is the only legitimate hairs of Panjatan Pak, Why they insists for marble kabars and big makbara?
Can abdes put some lights on this, specially the professor Adam.
Simple because the head of fatemi dawat claimer are not true legitimate of panjatan pak,so they insists for marble kabars & big makabara.

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:15 am

Maqbool wrote:Recently a prominent personality expired at Chennai in Ishna Ashari. He was buried near 1000 lights. He has done vasihat that since Fatema A.S. has no Kabar or shed on her kabar, for me no kabar should be made.
The head of the Fatemi Dawat claims that he is the only legitimate hairs of Panjatan Pak, Why they insists for marble kabars and big makbara?
Can abdes put some lights on this, specially the professor Adam.
brother maqbool,

now you too? how can you ask such questions filled with shirk?

you seem to forget that the dai is ilah ul ardh - allah on earth. he is the haqiqi kaaba, natiq e quran, haq na saheb and mojiza na saheb. he has ghaib nu ilm and he and his father have been around since before nabi aadam. have you not heard that hussain prayed for both of them before he was beheaded? that burhan is mentioned in the quran 234.5 times?

can you claim such qualities and attributes for fatema? she was just an ordinary woman and daughter of prophet. how can you compare her with fatemi dai of dawoodi bohras??!! to question and cast doubts on the divinity of the last 2 dai's and make such ignoble and puerile comments on building grand makbaras for them amounts to shirk and is a sign of kufr.

please repent, say tauba, re-take your misaq and khatna after sending in a fakhir najwa into hazrate aaliyah etc etc.. also send in 2 kgs of gold to help our dai erect a zareeh around fatema's grave.

JC
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by JC » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:26 pm

As a famous Urdu saying goes 'Unchi Dookan, Pheeka Pakwan' ........

Bohra spring
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:07 pm

Common guys and gals

A person who has built dozens of tombs, some with gold and gemstones ....will accept anything less for himself, Abdes in current state would not let that happen. And the zadas will already have a plan ! There may be a cost benefit analysis already done and waiting for raza....New roza vs expanding another existing one...prime location for ziyarat, income from visits,

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Is big makbara and kabar neccessary for Fatemi dawat hea

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:23 pm

Maqbool wrote:Recently a prominent personality expired at Chennai in Ishna Ashari. He was buried near 1000 lights. He has done vasihat that since Fatema A.S. has no Kabar or shed on her kabar, for me no kabar should be made.

The head of the Fatemi Dawat claims that he is the only legitimate hairs of Panjatan Pak, Why they insists for marble kabars and big makbara?

Can abdes put some lights on this, specially the professor Adam.
Bro Maqbool,

If at all any abde chooses to answer your querries you will recieve a stereotyped reply drilled in their empty brains which will be as follows :-

1) In order to justify the grand marble mausoleum of the 51st dai duly studded with precious stones they will give you the example of Imam hussain (a.s.) and Mola Ali (a.s.) roza which has gold zarih and shift the focus from their austere, sincere and honest life full of piety.
2) In order to justify their corrupt amils and zaadas they will cite the fictitous examples of Mola Ali's alleged tolerance of the 3 khalifas saying "Aae logo ne to paalva pade chhe".
3) In order to justify the dabba scheme they will give the example of Imam Ali Zainul Abedin (a.s.) conveniently omitting the fact that the Imam used to personally carry loads of foodstuff on his shoulder and deliver the same to every needy person door to door and FREE OF COST.
4) In order to justify the opulent and ayyash lifestyle of the Dai and his zaadas they will give the example of earlier faitimid Imams conveniently omitting the fact that the said Imams were also rulers of their province akin to kings.

These are just a few of patent replies one can expect from abdes.