Makes Sense

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thinker
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Makes Sense

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Unread post by thinker » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:43 pm

Lets post statements showcasing the current Bohra religion's absurdities, each one ending with the ironic phrase "Makes sense".

Do khidmat, sacrifice your family, do my ziafats, give me money while you are alive and I will look after you when you are dead. Makes sense.

Nietzsche
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Nietzsche » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:52 pm

Read the Quran. Pray in the direction of Mecca five times a day. Go to heaven while the other 6.5 billion people waiting to die go to hell. Makes sense.

thinker
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by thinker » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:00 pm

Go do hajj, your sawaab is one hajj. Do deedar of maula who is haqueequi kaaba, your sawaab is a hundred hajj. Makes sense.

think
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by think » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:07 pm

koii leader ghareebo ka masiha ho nahi sakta
kare wo lakh waada koi pura ho nahi sakta
dhandora chahe kitna woh peet le parsaii ka
karela phir karela hai wo mitha ho nahi sakta
sab dakoo ban gaei Hatim Tai

thinker
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by thinker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:16 pm

Misaq means absolute obedience to all the commands of the dai: past, present and future. Break this vow and your property can be looted, your dearest nearest relations will have to break away from you and your wife stands automatically divorced! Makes sense.

seeker110
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:50 pm

Poor people giving money to a rich men. Makes no sense.

think
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Unread post by think » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:26 am

sky rocketting food prices in karachi, bohri's being killed,your next door neighbour can't survive but labrez two mithas and two kharas , makes sense.

thinker
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by thinker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:00 pm

You may be a master of your profession or even a world renowned intellectual, nay even read and understand the Quran! But you still cannot independently make sense of Taaweel. Makes sense.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:47 pm

The son (Muffy) accepts Gold Guineas for his father's birthday, makes sense.

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:42 pm

an abde bohra does identical sajdas to allah and also to the dai, but calls one sajda e ubuddiya and the other sajda e takriman wa taaziman al ardh!! makes sense...

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:45 pm

an abde bohra weeps at the sight of an old and infirm mola and pardons him for not knowing what misery and suffering his evil establishment is inflicting on his followers, but on the other hand claims with full conviction that he is a ghaib na maalik!! makes sense!

think
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Unread post by think » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:46 pm

a 60 year old man folds hands and does sajda to a 14 year old who is still playing video games and calls himself prince. does it make sense.

seeker110
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by seeker110 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:08 pm

Follows Ahle-bait but lives like Yazeed go figure.

Calls himself man of peace and compassion but kills animals for fun.

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:11 pm

Abdes celebrate the birthday of their Dai who is ailing and in hospital and donate gold coins to someone who cannot differentiate between gold and copper (due to his present mental state). Makes sense.

Conscíous
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Conscíous » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:28 pm

With one hand, he heals the pain and suffering of the soul and with the other, he enjoys and takes pleasure, killing it.. Makes sense!!

thinker
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by thinker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:50 pm

One day to celebrate the birthday of the Prophet of God Mohammad, two score (forty) days of celebration for the birthday of my Syedna Mohammad. Makes sense.

think
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Unread post by think » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:54 pm

history is void of such birthday exhibition for any nabi, imam or Dai, but here is a dai who is lost in another world , and does not even know that it is his birthday, but the abdes are wining and dining on his birthday, makes sense.

Safiuddin
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:39 am

Hindu converts to Islam demand sajda to humans. Makes sense to me.

Safiuddin
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:39 am

Hindi converts to Islam perform daily shirk and lie about Islam. Makes sense.

humanbeing
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:00 pm

Deedar = Darshan
Phookelu pani = Prasad
Wadhaavanu = Arti
Amil = Ponga Pandit

All makes sense !!

Muslim First
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:20 pm

Safiuddin wrote:Hindi converts to Islam perform daily shirk and lie about Islam. Makes sense.
Being Muslim, i know, majority of Muslims are not true Muslims by neglecting Namaaz, doing minor Gunah and worshipping so called dead saints.

think
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by think » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:42 pm

This forum is creating panic for zadas and their cronies, makes perfect sense. They are scared in their ghagras because pol khul jaiga.

JC
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by JC » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:41 pm

Bohra Clergy is gradually 'replacing' Namaz with their 'own namaz' .......... the glaring example is these days there is no time allowed for Sunnah at masjids though Two Rakkah for Dai is a MUST. Look what happened on Big Salgirah Day ........ people sat in masjids for one reason or other for HOURS but they go to pray only Farz that too in big rush ..........!!!! In Toronto, since A B Tommy is in Mimbai this tamasha was presided by crook Najmi, he literally RUSHED Magrib and Isha - two rakkah for Dai was indeed offered - though enough time was spent on 'matam' and hours for manhoos lecture. Sunnah will soon be replaced by three two-rakkah namaz for Taher, Burhan and Muffi. And very soon a time will come when they will start 'ignoring' Fraz namaz too.

seeker110
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:14 pm

Helps himself with others money that is not needed, but will not help the needy with money. Tamnei Ibn Muljim na sajda karoon.

genesis
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by genesis » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:27 am

JC wrote:Bohra Clergy is gradually 'replacing' Namaz with their 'own namaz' .......... the glaring example is these days there is no time allowed for Sunnah at masjids though Two Rakkah for Dai is a MUST. Look what happened on Big Salgirah Day ........ people sat in masjids for one reason or other for HOURS but they go to pray only Farz that too in big rush ..........!!!! In Toronto, since A B Tommy is in Mimbai this tamasha was presided by crook Najmi, he literally RUSHED Magrib and Isha - two rakkah for Dai was indeed offered - though enough time was spent on 'matam' and hours for manhoos lecture. Sunnah will soon be replaced by three two-rakkah namaz for Taher, Burhan and Muffi. And very soon a time will come when they will start 'ignoring' Fraz namaz too.
This is a glaring transition which the flock of sheep has accepted without question. And as is predicted by JC that day too is not far off where the whole namaz will be given a go-by and replaced with newer and newer neeyats. Makes strong sense.

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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Starwars » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:49 am

Ziyada desso to ziyada barakat milse, makes sense.

zinger
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:02 am

Sitting on your bums and posting on a forum instead of trying to educate people within the community and making a difference... MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE

JC
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Unread post by JC » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:39 pm

Zinger, we are doing what we can, we are atleast thinking and speaking, we are not a huge organization with financial and otherwise support .......... Our eyes are wide open and we are ready to listen, analyze, research, judge and conclude and are thankful to Allah for His these blessings. Abdes and Amtes are fast asleep and have decided not to use their brains which is the greatest gift of Allah. Makes sense??!!

zinger
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:02 pm

makes no sense whatsoever JC.

Read about us. we have mentioned it earlier how we are convincing people to stop giving ziafats and against fgm. read what we do and how we spread the word and the work that you guys are doing.

honestly, all we can see are a bunch of people sitting and making big talks about bringing in a revolution, democratic procedures etc, not understanding that philosophically, the Bohra sect is not aligned that way. anyways, to each his own. they have their own views, we have nothing to say to that

hope this makes sense to you now

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Makes Sense

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:22 pm

zinger wrote:Sitting on your bums and posting on a forum instead of trying to educate people within the community and making a difference... MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE
claiming to 'love' the animal hunter and murderer syedna who spends upwards of a 100,000 dollars on one safari expedition, who lives in palaces and talks of praying for his abdes 24/7 whilst forcibly collecting vajebaat from slum dwelling bohras.... makes sense!