Makes Sense

[seeker110]

Jism ko mout ki arzoo ho,magar abde ta qayamat zinda rehne ki dua karte hain. Makes perfect sense.

[thinker]

Sitting on your bums and posting on a forum instead of trying to educate people within the community and making a difference... MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE

zinger says: "parading the Dai around, kissing his takhat, kissing his photo, is NOT worship". To ordinary humans this does not make sense...

Until you hear what Yamani says: "Skin yourself alive, make shoes and put on the feet of the Syedna, still you will not be able to repay what is owed." Now makes sense.

[seeker110]

Loog ous bandey say piyar our mohobbut ki tamanna karte hain, jo apni Ma ko piyar aur mohabbat na de saka.

[zinger]

Sitting on your bums and posting on a forum instead of trying to educate people within the community and making a difference... MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE

claiming to 'love' the animal hunter and murderer syedna who spends upwards of a 100,000 dollars on one safari expedition, who lives in palaces and talks of praying for his abdes 24/7 whilst forcibly collecting vajebaat from slum dwelling bohras.... makes sense!

You're right. it doesnt make sense. But sitting on a forum under a pseudonym and griping like old women makes even less sense

[Al Zulfiqar]

t sitting on a forum under a pseudonym and griping like old women makes even less sense

which is exactly what you are doing, sitting on your arse, hiding behind a pseudonym and 'loving' the dai. its a miracle you have not yet been invited to get into bed with him. makes sense.!

[thinker]

claiming to 'love' the animal hunter and murderer syedna who spends upwards of a 100,000 dollars on one safari expedition, who lives in palaces and talks of praying for his abdes 24/7 whilst forcibly collecting vajebaat from slum dwelling bohras.... makes sense!

You're right. it doesnt make sense. But sitting on a forum under a pseudonym and griping like old women makes even less sense

In Abde moral equation, "sitting on your bum, griping like old women" is worse than hunting animals for pleasure and forced taxation from poor people. Makes sense.

[thinker]

We protest by our words what Syedna and his cronies have done: "butchered our belief system, hurt our faith and emotionally disrupted our families, inciting father against son, wife against husband etc. and made non thinking vegetables of our children. moula moula ghanu jivo, mare skin na tamne shoes banvi do, maro time tamare saiva ma barbad kare do, mari family ne tamara slave banavi do, ane bija no haq looti ne tamne sona ne gaini api do and more and more attrocities."

And by our words we hurt the feelings of your Syedna and thus we are Kafirs and Munafiqs: fit to burn in hell for all eternity. Makes sense.

[ghulam muhammed]

KHIDMAT GUZAR = Jinka Guzaara hi Khidmat pe hota hai..... Makes sense !

[zinger]

t sitting on a forum under a pseudonym and griping like old women makes even less sense

which is exactly what you are doing, sitting on your arse, hiding behind a pseudonym and 'loving' the dai. its a miracle you have not yet been invited to get into bedroom with him. makes sense.!

Aaaaahhh.... so we've come back to our old style of trash-mouth havent we. Like I said your so-called consern for dawoodi bohras were just empty words

[Al Zulfiqar]

which is exactly what you are doing, sitting on your arse, hiding behind a pseudonym and 'loving' the dai. its a miracle you have not yet been invited to get into bedroom with him. makes sense.!

Aaaaahhh.... so we've come back to our old style of trash-mouth havent we. Like I said your so-called consern for dawoodi bohras were just empty words

"laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi maantey." you fall into the sad category of a brainless 'bhoot'.

for uneducated, simple and loving ordinary bohras, i can give them the benefit of doubt and love them in return. but you are an educated, tech savvy, supposedly "modern" bohra who has decided to behave like an abde and display a slavish mentality. alas, i can spare no consideration for willing slaves like yourself.

btw, please check again, but that 'mushy feeling' you described, when you think about mola, is probably coming from your pants.

makes sense to me!

[zinger]

Koi baat nahi AZ saab. We hold you pretty much in the same contempt ourselves. Peace

[Al Zulfiqar]

Koi baat nahi AZ saab. We hold you pretty much in the same contempt ourselves. Peace

suffering from delusions of grandeur? afflicted with hallucinations? since when did you alone become 'we'???

[zinger]

We is as in our group of like-minded people in our jamaat who see that there is some truth in the cause that you fight for.

We is as in our group of like-minded people in our jamaat who sympathise and empathise with your cause

We is as in our group of like-minded people in our jamaat who are doing our own little bit to try an open peoples eyes, atleast to the corruption and the wrong doings.

We is as in our group of like-minded people in our jamaat who are trying to walk the talk

[Al Zulfiqar]

zinger,

why the sudden turn around? just 2 posts ago you called me 'contemptous', now whats with all the 'sympathy, empathy, truth' and all the conciliatory claptrap?

so you admit to all the corruption, loot, tyranny and intimidation of the clergy, but still get a 'mushy feeling' in your pants when you think of syedna and won't hold him responsible as the CEO of this evil empire? see your own hypocrisy?

syedna presides over this evil cult, he is supposed to know everything as ghaib na maalik and haq na saheb, yet you refuse to pin the blame on him by claiming that he is old and infirm and doesn't know whats going on? see your own double standards and contradictory stances, your hypocrisy?

you are a most confused person cast in the tragic mould of sancho panza, the sidekick to don quixote.

[zinger]

haa haa haa, i thought sancho panza was reserved for someone else.

anyways, fool, we sympathise and empathise with the reformist cause. not necessarily with you. we sympathise with you too, no doubt, but wish that you wouldnt be so rude all the time. when you do, we have nothing but contempt for you then.

you sometimes remind us of the people who sit comfortably in thaals, wait for the khidmatguzaar to serve you food, forgetting that they havent had the time to break their roza even, and then abuse them for not bringing the food quickly.

for us, their could be no greater fool than that.

you are not. you are fighting for truth but have the decency to fight fairly. dont resort to cheap tactics. if you want to be proud that you have the moral high-ground compared to the kothar, then stick to it, dont fight like a hyena then

[Al Zulfiqar]

zinger,

anyone who acts like a foolish, stupid slave and sidekick is a sancho panza. you fit the bill perfectly.

your analogy of thaal and khidmatguzars is another evidence of your narrow-minded channel vision. i am neither a thaal eater in the markaz nor a jamaat visitor. that is reserved for abdesyednas like you who get mushy feelings in their pants when thinking about syedna.

when confronted with hypocrites like you who wax lyrical about the sterling work they are doing to bring awareness about corruption and tyranny in the community but simultaneously profess undying 'love' for a corrupt dai, then i will take my gloves off. dont you get all whiny then and complain about decency, for i will spare you no quarter. its fence sitters and confused idiots like you who are the biggest enemy to reform.

if i am not mistaken, i have you figured out for who and what you are. by changing your id here, dont think that you have fooled me. over the last few posts you have revealed yrself to be the same pitiable creature who is more deserving of sympathy than anger.

[zinger]

yes, i know who you think i am. you think im mustafa nalwalla.

thats ok, you arent the first one to think that.

ive been in touch with him myself

yoo hoo... mustafa nalwalla... come out come out wherever you are....

he wont. he chickened out dont blame him. he was a fool to reveal so much about him to begin with... idiot. we could use people like him

[zinger]

hey world.... look at me... im mustafa nalwalla posing and posting as zinger... haaa haaa haaa

come on guys... get real.

i could be aqs or stranger too.

we all share the same thought patterns

[zinger]

Zinger is Mustafa nalwalla... make maximum absolute sense

[seeker110]

The reason Zinger loves Mola is that he drinks from the same well (baitul mal).

[Al Zulfiqar]

zinger,

the vehemence of your denials (3 posts to profess that you are NOT nalwala, whose name you brought up on your own!) in fact now confirms that you are indeed that fool from earlier days.

but whether you have a 'nal' or not, the fact remains that you are as much of a confused hypocrite as that leaking faucet, speaking from both sides of your mouth, advocating reform, accepting all the corruption, misuse of religion and perversion of our faith, but getting mushy and orgasmic feelings in your pants when just thinking about the syedna who leads this evil empire!

pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aatey hai ghadey aur bewaqoof yahan..

[seeker110]

"pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aatey hai ghadey aur bewaqoof yahan.."

Ap ne Saifee Mahal ka nam kabhi nahi suna.

[Rocksolid]

"pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aatey hai ghadey aur bewaqoof yahan.."

Ap ne Saifee Mahal ka nam kabhi nahi suna.

I dont think these guys have any thing to do with saifi mahal, infact guys in saifi mahal are really smart, they have successfully managed to dumb 1 million people.

[zinger]

zinger,

the vehemence of your denials (3 posts to profess that you are NOT nalwala, whose name you brought up on your own!) in fact now confirms that you are indeed that fool from earlier days.

but whether you have a 'nal' or not, the fact remains that you are as much of a confused hypocrite as that leaking faucet, speaking from both sides of your mouth, advocating reform, accepting all the corruption, misuse of religion and perversion of our faith, but getting mushy and orgasmic feelings in your pants when just thinking about the syedna who leads this evil empire!

pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aatey hai ghadey aur bewaqoof yahan..

haa haa haa... enjoy chasing the mice in your skull al zulfiquar

you arent the only one who thinks im mustafa nalwalla.

human being has also made the same observation

my 'nal' by the way, is big enough to hold you and the likes of you and for a long time...

im enjoying this a lot

by the way, what is it with you and d***s? is it a deep-rooted resentment towards people who have one since you dont have one?

[zinger]

zinger,

the vehemence of your denials (3 posts to profess that you are NOT nalwala, whose name you brought up on your own!) in fact now confirms that you are indeed that fool from earlier days.

but whether you have a 'nal' or not, the fact remains that you are as much of a confused hypocrite as that leaking faucet, speaking from both sides of your mouth, advocating reform, accepting all the corruption, misuse of religion and perversion of our faith, but getting mushy and orgasmic feelings in your pants when just thinking about the syedna who leads this evil empire!

pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aatey hai ghadey aur bewaqoof yahan..

and by the way, the gahdey and bewakoof here are spawned from the same pond that fools like you and mustafa come from

[zinger]

The reason Zinger loves Mola is that he drinks from the same well (baitul mal).

the reason that zinger loves his maula is beyond the likes of you

[Rocksolid]

The reason Zinger loves Mola is that he drinks from the same well (baitul mal).

the reason that zinger loves his maula is beyond the likes of you

Honest question, what qualities in ur mola makes u love him? (no pun intended) lets see how many great qualities of ur mola u can present here.

[zinger]

the reason that zinger loves his maula is beyond the likes of you

Honest question, what qualities in ur mola makes u love him? (no pun intended) lets see how many great qualities of ur mola u can present here.

Hey rocksolid, you know what, your question might seem so simple to some and so difficult to answer for some. the problem is that there is no right or wrong anser for this.

its like we always say, you loved your father all your life, but one day, you found out that your father made his money unethical ways. would you stop loving him? no. why? because he is still your father and that is how you have known him all your life.

i know my this very answer has been thrashed before too, and it will be again. honestly, i dont mind. everyone has an opinion of their own.

i used to live in a dream world that my parents built for me that maula is all great and omniscent, but honestly, coming here opened my eyes to the truth. but... even then, one cannot drain away years of thought patterns overnight.

dont know if this answered your question but let me try and put it this way, i can think of many qualities, but unfortunately, none of them would qualify as a reason that would be good enough for you, for us to love him.

[SBM]

Zinger
its like we always say, you loved your father all your life, but one day, you found out that your father made his money unethical ways. would you stop loving him? no. why? because he is still your father and that is how you have known him all your life.

Br Zinger
If it turns out that your father who you loved so much killed your mother and never mentions about her mysterious death would you still love him?

[humanbeing]

Zinger

Your comparison of love between father-son and religious leader as fed into your head is not on same grounds by any logic.

Has sayedna personally comforted you in times of need ? (plz dont dish out dreamy mojizas) a result of your own perceptive imagination.

I can understand that being a leader to millions he cannot come down to every door. So he can reach out by his words and actions (policies) to make your life better. But has that happen ?

Sweet mushy talks in sermons and opposite in actions. There are plenty of examples out there. If you want to know we can surely discuss those out here in detail.

Name any scheme from kothar and there is smoke in it. Eventually only the kotharis benefit.

Love also must be with respect and integrity. One cannot claim to be righteous by loving a person accused of wrongdoings.

Jo-Jaage-Uska-Savera !