$27000 across the board for Masjid

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wise_guy
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$27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by wise_guy » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:59 pm

So, people who did not pledge their choice of amount towards the new Houston masjid fund within the deadline have been slapped with an across the board bill of $27000.

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by trvoice » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:11 am

Please elaborate. Interested in knowing how far they can go.

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Unread post by wise_guy » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:10 am

trvoice wrote:Please elaborate. Interested in knowing how far they can go.
nothing much to elaborate. In Houston, recently (a couple of years ago) they built a sprawling Mawaid the minimum bill of which to each jamaat registered household is $18000 to be paid in installments. The construction of the huge Masjid begun shortly after that, some estimates put the Masjid cost to be around $27 million. Now you do the math.

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Unread post by LionHunter » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:03 am

is it compulsory on every one? and will it be said "masjid mola e banawi"?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:31 pm

LionHunter wrote:is it compulsory on every one? and will it be said "masjid mola e banawi"?
Every bohra masjid is built out of funds collected from Bohras but eventually the Dai not only takes the entire credit but even the exact amount of money that went into building the masjid and then only does the masjid get its religious sanctity. Hence till such time that you don't PAY the Dai, you cannot pray in the Masjid and even if you do so then the "Sawab" you get is not what is promised by praying in Masjid (This is the kothar interpretation of Islamic Laws).

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by wise_guy » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:10 pm

LionHunter wrote:is it compulsory on every one? and will it be said "masjid mola e banawi"?
as far as I know, the $18000 minimum is compulsory for all registered family which gets debited directly from the account according to the terms and conditions of the jamaat. Don't know about the Masjid fund though. I think, they have fixed $27000 so that there is room for negotiation.

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:44 am

wise_guy wrote:
trvoice wrote:Please elaborate. Interested in knowing how far they can go.
nothing much to elaborate. In Houston, recently (a couple of years ago) they built a sprawling Mawaid the minimum bill of which to each jamaat registered household is $18000 to be paid in installments. The construction of the huge Masjid begun shortly after that, some estimates put the Masjid cost to be around $27 million. Now you do the math.

27 million for a prayer hall! What Allah who created the universe would be impressed and cares whether it is built as an architectural master piece ?

Will he care that the people praying are suffering under the debt that is imposed on the worshipers by goons who misused his name at every moment to get rich and oppressive?

Will the prayer hall down the street where other of his followers a praying under a tin roof old building but peaceful and grateful be any less recognised ?

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Unread post by wise_guy » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:01 pm

ok, what do you have to say about the Sheikh Zayed Mosque, Abu Dhabi?
Bohra spring wrote:

27 million for a prayer hall! What Allah who created the universe would be impressed and cares whether it is built as an architectural master piece ?

Will he care that the people praying are suffering under the debt that is imposed on the worshipers by goons who misused his name at every moment to get rich and oppressive?

Will the prayer hall down the street where other of his followers a praying under a tin roof old building but peaceful and grateful be any less recognised ?

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:38 pm

wise_guy wrote:ok, what do you have to say about the Sheikh Zayed Mosque, Abu Dhabi?
Bohra spring wrote:

27 million for a prayer hall! What Allah who created the universe would be impressed and cares whether it is built as an architectural master piece ?

Will he care that the people praying are suffering under the debt that is imposed on the worshipers by goons who misused his name at every moment to get rich and oppressive?

Will the prayer hall down the street where other of his followers a praying under a tin roof old building but peaceful and grateful be any less recognised ?

the prayers are worth the same ... The person who willingly contributed may be rewarded for building a prayer hall

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Unread post by wise_guy » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:29 pm

The Houston Masjid which is nearing completion is made very big keeping in mind the recent spurt in abde population over the last few years and also keeping in mind future population growth. Abdes in Houston are mass producer of babies. I know couples (not too old couple) with even 5 children that too in modern times... ! They don't want that this masjid also becomes inadequate in few years as the previous masjid became.
Bohra spring wrote:
27 million for a prayer hall! What Allah who created the universe would be impressed and cares whether it is built as an architectural master piece ?

Will he care that the people praying are suffering under the debt that is imposed on the worshipers by goons who misused his name at every moment to get rich and oppressive?

Will the prayer hall down the street where other of his followers a praying under a tin roof old building but peaceful and grateful be any less recognised ?

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by think » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:10 pm

the crook of houston has been caught with his sons. Will the mumineen of houston learn a lesson? will this incident open the eyes of the mumineen of houston that they are being fleeced by the goonda jamaat committee? I pray Allah shows them the right path.

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Unread post by wise_guy » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:44 am

think wrote:the crook of houston has been caught with his sons. Will the mumineen of houston learn a lesson? will this incident open the eyes of the mumineen of houston that they are being fleeced by the goonda jamaat committee? I pray Allah shows them the right path.
No 1 from Houston was caught. It was some son of San Antonio Aaamil. @Think, it is better to think before you post something.. :idea: Houston n San Antonio are 180 miles apart.

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Unread post by think » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:20 am

They are all part of the same pot. Houston has worse problems than San Antonio. Tension among mumineen has reacherd a level where mumineens health is suffering because of the goonda jamaat who at the direction of the zadas and their peony child are robbing the mumineen blind .

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by Bori85 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:19 pm

wise_guy wrote:
trvoice wrote:Please elaborate. Interested in knowing how far they can go.
nothing much to elaborate. In Houston, recently (a couple of years ago) they built a sprawling Mawaid the minimum bill of which to each jamaat registered household is $18000 to be paid in installments. The construction of the huge Masjid begun shortly after that, some estimates put the Masjid cost to be around $27 million. Now you do the math.
Hello Wiseguy,
Is it true that after building the Masjid (with jamaat money ofcourse) the Jamaat has to give the same amount of Cash spent in building the mosque to Syedna dto come and do the Ibtida of Masjid.

if this is true then I am wondering that in Mississauga they are asking $27000/- per family for masjid , so each family will have to arrange for another 27000 and keep it ready for Ibtida... So I am just asking a question to Mr.Rakla through this forum, what is his game plan about this Ibtida of masjid, I know he is doing a very good job in handling the matters (both financial and physical help) in making of this mosque... I am sure he must have thought about this Masjid opening ceremony namely known as Ibtida by Maula...

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Unread post by Gulaame Islaam » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:17 am

A similar plot has been initiated in a suburb of Chicago; Near Hoffman Estates. I do not know the details but I am sure some one on this forum knows or can find out.

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Unread post by 786_110 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:31 pm

Gulaame Islaam wrote:A similar plot has been initiated in a suburb of Chicago; Near Hoffman Estates. I do not know the details but I am sure some one on this forum knows or can find out.

As big and ridiculous as these numbers sound, I definitely believe Chicago will ask for a bigger amount. The Hoffman Estates "jamaat" has been moving through town halls and warehouses as their meeting place but I believe they have found some land to build a Masjid. I have a feeling that the amount will have to paid by the entire Chicago jamaat, not just those who would be apart of the Hoffman Estates jamaat.

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Re: $27000 across the board for Masjid

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Unread post by wise_guy » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:52 pm

Got this message in December

Dear Mumineen,
السلام عليكم و خرحمة الله وبركاته
The year 1435 has brought with it the barakat of both Maulas’ (tus) dua mubarak and the joyous occasion of Eidiz Zahabi, Aqa Maula’s (tus) Golden Jubilee. There is no doubt that this barakat and joy will continue to grow and fill our lives as we enter 2014 in a few days, inshallah.

For us Houstonians 1435 and 2014 will also be historic because we hope to have Aqa Maula (tus) breathe life into our magnificent new masjid. I know that we all cannot wait for the moment to come when both Maulas (tus) will arrive in Houston and fill our hearts, homes, and lives with the barakat of their qadam, nazr, and dua mubarak and grant us all our hopes and aspirations.

For this moment to arrive we are anxiously waiting for the masjid project to be completed in March 2014. This also means that Anjumane Shujaee must honor its obligation to the contractor and make our payment at the time. While we have received the nemat of qardan hasana to cover our payments and provide mumineen the ease of making their contributions over several years, we will still be short of $3 million dollars in March.

To bridge this gap we need to contribute 20% of our committed amounts at the beginning of 2014. I am confident I will have your help and cooperation (please see attached form) because we the mumineen of Houston are proud of our azm, josh, nashat, ikhlas, and mohabbat and this is the time to put our words and strengths to action with the aala niyat of welcoming both Maulas (tus) to our city.

May Allah Subhanahu grant us all our wishes and the presence of both Maulas (tus) in Houston very, very soon. I wish you all a very happy and prosperous 1435 and 2014.

Wassalam.

Abde Syedna (tus) wa Mansoosehi (tus)

NOORUDDIN YAMANI
Amilsaheb